Microsoft confirms 2009 Windows 7 release

Microsoft has confirmed a 2009 release for Windows 7 at its annual TechEd conference in Los Angeles.

Bill Veghte, senior vice president of the Windows Business at Microsoft, has confirmed that Windows 7 will be available to customers in time for the holiday shopping season at its North American TechEd conference in Los Angeles.

"We're tracking well to deliver Windows 7 in time for holiday availability based on the groundswell of feedback we received from the partner ecosystem, customers and through our own internal testing from pre-beta to now," said Veghte.

The software giant has previously been deliberately vague about Windows 7's launch in particular, stating that WIndows 7 would be available no later than three years after the general availability of Windows Vista - 30th January 2010, in other words.

Given that the first and only public beta - which happened to be 'feature complete' - was released in January of this year and the fact that there would only be the one Release Candidate instead of the usual two or three, Microsoft's release timeframe always looked incredibly conservative in our eyes. Indeed, we had heard from many different sources that it was likely to see general availability this year.

Indeed, it was Acer who spilled the beans on a potential October 23rd launch date earlier this month - that's still quite a likely timeframe given Veghte's comments since Microsoft would want to have the OS on the shelves in time for Black Friday - the busiest shopping day of the year in the US - at the end of November.

As we get closer to Windows 7's launch, the next date we're going to hear is when Microsoft will start offering a free upgrade to Windows 7 on new PCs shipping with Vista - it's something the software giant does to ensure that the PC market doesn't dry while consumers lie in anticipation for the new OS release.

A number of the bit-tech team are already running the release candidate and can't wait for the RTM code. Have you been running the RC too and, if so, how are you finding it? Tell us in the forums.
Quote faugusztin 12th May 2009, 08:00
Except BSOD on resume and black login screen ? Usable :).
Quote DarkLord7854 12th May 2009, 08:07
Looking forward to this! I really like Windows 7, can't wait to get the full retail copy of Ultimate :D
Quote p3n 12th May 2009, 08:09
Im quite liking win7 RC, the only real reason is its the cheapest 64bit OS that runs windows apps I could get my hands on... it really doesnt seem like they are going anywhere - the control panel continues on its march to 80 useless tools amoungst the important ones, the abortion that is the 'registry' is still there... what exactly have they changed other than the UI and forcing people to use it if they want DX1x?
Quote liratheal 12th May 2009, 08:11
Very much looking forward to this.

This is going surprisingly well for a Windows product.
Quote Phil Rhodes 12th May 2009, 08:16
I don't usually bother upgrading until there's at least a service pack, or possibly two, out for the next generation OS. Since Vista is effectively ignorable in this context, looks like it'll be late 2010 before I move away from XP.

But the issue is that, given that Windows 7 seems to be an alternate name for a product called Windows Vista Actually Finished, isn't it just going to have every problem that Vista has?

And, p3n, as to the registry - it's not a great idea, certainly, but the only real alternative is a bunch of text files floating about. This is how windows used to do it, with .ini files, and how Linux still does do it, and it is not very much fun.

P
Quote robyholmes 12th May 2009, 08:17
I have run, 7000, 7077 and now 7100 and all have been very good! I now run 7100 on my gaming rig. Everything works fine apart from punkbuster, which there are workarounds, but not great ones. To be fair tho it was hard enough getting PB to work in any OS!

I can see what p3n is saying, and its not perfect, but it very close and windows has a winning on its hands. Now they just have to get it out fast (Driver support is aready on way) and give thos poor vista users money back or free upgrade to Windows.
Quote The Infamous Mr D 12th May 2009, 08:23
I've got Windows 7 RC running on three of my machines, it's easy to use, easy on the eye and very easy on the wallet. It's much more intuitive to navigate around than Vista. I'll definitely be investing when Windows 7 goes RTM.
Quote gavomatic57 12th May 2009, 08:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Infamous Mr D
I've got Windows 7 RC running on three of my machines, it's easy to use, easy on the eye and very easy on the wallet. It's much more intuitive to navigate around than Vista. I'll definitely be investing when Windows 7 goes RTM.

I'm having trouble telling W7 apart from Vista - to me they are the same. They are the same to use but the task bar looks a bit different. Luckily I like Vista...but I already have Vista, I'm not compelled to spend £250 retail on a new taskbar.
Quote Buzzons 12th May 2009, 08:57
gavomatic57 there's a huge amount of technical differences between Vista and XP. Just as there was between Windows 98 and Windows 2000/XP.. but they *looked* the same
Quote Matticus 12th May 2009, 09:48
Windows 7 is a great OS, been using it for a few days now on the eee.

It does look basically the same as vista but with some tweaks and a few extra features. But anyone with a high powered system is missing the point of win7, it runs beautifully on my eee, I would say its about as responsive as XP but with features and looks that make it a lot more usable.

The leap from XP to 7 should mean about the same performance with a nicer gui and lots of features.
Vista to 7 should mean its slightly quicker but you probably won't notice on a fast system and a few extra features.

Also my battery life seems to have noticeably improved.
Quote Krikkit 12th May 2009, 09:57
What Matticus said tbh. I've installed Win7RC1 on my laptop, it's wonderful. Battery life is marginally improved, the thing feels nice and responsive, and looks nice to boot.

Having said that the settings are so strewn through hell that for a veteran XP user like me it's not a very pleasant experience to try and sort through it all... :(
Quote dolphin-promotions 12th May 2009, 10:11
I installed the beta on my home machine and found it to be a bit too buggy. Installed the RC on my laptop and it is working perfectly. Though I am not sure if I want to take the risk and upgrade my main machines just yet.
Quote TomH 12th May 2009, 10:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
And, p3n, as to the registry - it's not a great idea, certainly, but the only real alternative is a bunch of text files floating about. This is how windows used to do it, with .ini files, and how Linux still does do it, and it is not very much fun.
Fixing a broken system is far more fun if you can boot a live CD, mount your drives, and edit said floaty text files. Do that with a broken Windows installation..
Quote LAGMonkey 12th May 2009, 10:33
after many moons of resisting vista i ended up buying a laptop with vista pre-installed (Home Prem) and i havnt had much to complain about to be honest. Although now that im hearing good soothing noises about 7 im tempted to jump on it as soon as its released instead of my usual "wait untill the SP" method.

Only problem is that if its going to end up costing a million $$$s to upgrade from 64bit Vista Home Plemium ( :p ) then they can swivle!
Quote proxess 12th May 2009, 10:35
Works fine here, tho I did have a few bumps and grinds with GPU drivers at the beginning.
Quote yakyb 12th May 2009, 10:37
with a couple of new builds planned for around november /january time i think i may migrate my systems to windows 7 then
Quote samkiller42 12th May 2009, 10:40
The only thing that i'm not overly convinced off is Homegroup, the new Networking system, it took me 20 mins to share 5 folders, for access from another win 7 machine, and a xp machine, other than that, i like it. I will however, wait and see for feedback for netbook reliablity, battery performance etc.

Sam
Quote p3n 12th May 2009, 11:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by samkiller42
The only thing that i'm not overly convinced off is Homegroup, the new Networking system, it took me 20 mins to share 5 folders, for access from another win 7 machine, and a xp machine, other than that, i like it. I will however, wait and see for feedback for netbook reliablity, battery performance etc.

Sam

That got the chop on my way to disable UAC, they even still have the workgroup stuff - why re-create p2p networking?
Quote Psy-UK 12th May 2009, 12:23
I'm actually looking forward to the release of an OS. It's really damn good!
Quote pimlicosound 12th May 2009, 13:09
I installed it on my MSI Wind on Friday. Installation went smoothly. It picked up all my hardware straight away - no need to install any drivers.

Memory footprint at boot is about 600MB, compared to around 450MB on my XP setup on the same machine. It's generally fast and responsive, but occasionally there's a pause before it responds to opening an application or changing between windows.

Zone Alarm Free wouldn't install, but I can live with that. Running a video call in Skype revealed some incompatibilities with my RealTek HD Audio drivers - microphone detection was unreliable. I downloaded and installed the latest drivers; this seems to have fixed the problem.

Overall, I'm enjoying Windows 7, and I'd strongly recommend it.
Quote azrael- 12th May 2009, 13:10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzzons
gavomatic57 there's a huge amount of technical differences between Vista and XP. Just as there was between Windows 98 and Windows 2000/XP.. but they *looked* the same
You can't in good conscience compare the difference between XP and Vista and Win2K/XP and Win9x. Win7, Vista, XP and Win2K are evolutions of Windows NT while Win9x ended with Windows Me (even though I claim it actually ended with Windows 98 SE :)).
Quote DAVEtheRAVE 12th May 2009, 13:14
I am running the RC on my laptop and I love it. I will be buying ultimate for my desktop pretty soon after it comes out.
Quote Paradigm Shifter 12th May 2009, 13:20
I've had a few issues with Windows 7, but not many. I'm puzzled as to why the 64-bit Crysis executable dumps me back to the desktop in Win7RC, but works fine in Vista 64. The 32-bit .exe works in Windows 7 without issues, BTW.

Overall, for a beta, then a release candidate... Windows 7 is more ready to be a released OS than Vista was when it was RTM. A fair amount of this is probably to do with the fact that most companies actually seem to be writing drivers for it. That said, I didn't have to install a single driver on the RC. Not one. That's on an X58 rig, too.

I'll have to install CCC, though, so I can persuade my HDTV not to underscan with HDMI input. :( Unless someone has an easy way of getting ATiTray Tools running on Windows 7 64-bit?
Quote DarkLord7854 12th May 2009, 15:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
But the issue is that, given that Windows 7 seems to be an alternate name for a product called Windows Vista Actually Finished, isn't it just going to have every problem that Vista has?

And exactly what are these Vista issues? Vista has a whole ton less issues than XP did before they finally released SP2, the only things I've found people to be whining about is UAC and graphic drivers, you cna disabled UAC and drivers aren't MS's responsibility.
Quote:
Originally Posted by p3n
Im quite liking win7 RC, the only real reason is its the cheapest 64bit OS that runs windows apps I could get my hands on... it really doesnt seem like they are going anywhere - the control panel continues on its march to 80 useless tools amoungst the important ones, the abortion that is the 'registry' is still there... what exactly have they changed other than the UI and forcing people to use it if they want DX1x?

The control panel has been streamlined to be more accessible and whilst you might not use all the options and tools, others do.

Windows 7 has a rebuilt kernel among other things, small list here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7#New_and_changed_features


Google around and you'll find a significant amount more.
Quote perplekks45 12th May 2009, 16:18
I just went from 7057 to 7100 on my laptop and even though it only has 512MB RAM it feels very smooth and snappy at the same time. Pressing the power button to Windows completely loaded and 100% ready to do what I want: ~1 minute. Compared to almost 2 on Vista and roughly the same if not slightly slower on XP.

Me likey and it'll be the first OS I actually pay for. Either got it as a license with my PC or for free through MSDNAA.
Quote FeRaL 12th May 2009, 16:52
Windows 7 runs a lot faster on my 5 year old PC than XP SP3 does. With exception to a few things that makes it chug a bit, this OS has breathed new life into my old PC.
Quote Kris. 12th May 2009, 16:56
I think i will wait about a year after the Windows 7 release, give companies time to fix over bugs in their drivers and give windows more time to fix crucial bugs.
Quote frontline 12th May 2009, 19:21
At least a lot of the hardware manufacturers seem to be on the ball with Win 7 drivers this time, compared to when Vista first arrived on the scene, although I've never had a problem with Vista after the final release. Anyone who has concerns over using it should really read this article : http://www.tweakguides.com/VA_1.html
Quote RichCreedy 13th May 2009, 00:22
you should find that "most" of the vista drivers work on windows 7, if you cant find a specific win 7 driver.

i have to download the vista drivers for realtek hd audio card in my laptop, because the win 7 drivers don't recognise the mic.

it does run well. i did a clean install over the beta, which detected a previuos version installed and it moved everything over to windows.old folder
Quote sadlydefiant 15th May 2009, 07:32
I normally wait at least 4 months or so.
I will look into getting Windows 7 early 2010 maybe?
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