Japan to get 1Gb/s in the home

*******s.

someone pack up my ****, I'm off to the land of the rising sun.

What's the point? You need some pretty hefty hardware to fully take advantage of something like that.

Will Virgin be providing this next year?

JAPAN FTW!!!!

Originally Posted by Smilodon
What's the point? You need some pretty hefty hardware to fully take advantage of something like that.

why not do things like some companies are doing here and offer TV, phone and other services with that line?

Originally Posted by LeMaltor
Will Virgin be providing this next year?

The Uk does not have the necessary Infrastructure yet, it will be years before we even see 1/10th of that.

Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
why not do things like some companies are doing here and offer TV, phone and other services with that line?

1080p Streaming ftw

Originally Posted by naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMaltor
Will Virgin be providing this next year?

The Uk does not have the necessary Infrastructure yet, it will be years before we even see 1/10th of that.

That's my point, they can't even provide 20, 10 and 2MB (is it?) lolz

just one more reason on the board to move.

currently have 7, and counting

I live in Japan an man it sucks to be an NTT customer living with my 'paltry' 100Mb/s. Oh well, I live in an apartment so couldn't get this crazy fast service anyway.

Originally Posted by naokaji
1080p Streaming ftw

Porn.. I mean TV in 1080P!

Originally Posted by Bluephoenix
just one more reason on the board to move.

currently have 7, and counting

You've not been counting very long then? :p

there has to be a catch , like a monthly 5gb limit or something :D

well, that settles it.

HOLY COW! I must vista japan and download 8 TB in about 10 days

each min = 60GB --- each hour = 60 X 60 = 3600GB --- each day 3600 X 24 = 86400GB

WOWOOWWOW must move to japan :) my internet is 2mb/s :( that is the best in whole UAE :(

Is it not 125MB per second, 8 bits in a byte and all that?

1Gb not 1GB, small b for bit instead of B for byte

Just... wow. I have 20MB broadband over here and the pathetic 768KB upload speed is crippling it. It takes forever to upload stuff to my webspace.

Originally Posted by LeMaltor
Is it not 125MB per second, 8 bits in a byte and all that?

1Gb not 1GB, small b for bit instead of B for byte

Correct.

Originally Posted by ComputerKing
HOLY COW! I must vista japan and download 8 TB in about 10 days

each min = 60GB --- each hour = 60 X 60 = 3600GB --- each day 3600 X 24 = 86400GB

WOWOOWWOW must move to japan :) my internet is 2mb/s :( that is the best in whole UAE :(

devide your total by 8 to get gigibytes, is currently gigabits

i'm paying $45/month here in Canada for cable that downloads 6+ Mbps and up 768kb.... which is good.

but the 90GBb/month is a pain :(

Shocking!

Why not Virgin Media take example? Maybe they've taken already... from 3rd world countries introducing 'Fair Usage Crap'

Originally Posted by LeMaltor
Is it not 125MB per second, 8 bits in a byte and all that?

1Gb not 1GB, small b for bit instead of B for byte

Yes, but 125MB per second is still 7500MB per minute, that makes 7.324 GB per minute, or the biggest HDD (1.5TB, formatted capacity roughly 1.3TB) filled in a tad less than 3 hours.

for people who want to emigrate may want to consider the "extremely spacious luxurious apartments" of 3x3m for extremely high prices. Not to mention the non existing parking space, but they have good futuristic transportation and the like...

@ LeMaltor , Wow dude! never noticed that. I thought that GB is same Gb. Thanks alot for the info :)

mean I will download 86400GB / 8 Gb = 10800GB every day :) not bad :)

@ naokaji, Dam you are dam good in math :) your math looks right !

@ spoon.uk, Dude I thought you guys don't have 'Fair Usage Crap' :( it's freaking ****. 150GB/month! that is dam low.

Originally Posted by ComputerKing


WOWOOWWOW must move to japan :) my internet is 2mb/s :( that is the best in whole UAE :(

You sure mate, with a place like Dubai, you would think there would be pretty fast speeds considering the unlimited amount of money they have.

Even Egypt has 20mb BB.

Originally Posted by Major
You sure mate, with a place like Dubai, you would think there would be pretty fast speeds considering the unlimited amount of money they have.

Even Egypt has 20mb BB.

I mean in home use... max is 2MB for each home :(

but business board band :) hahahaha don't even ask. they have things like 20 - 50 - 100 MB :)

omg, that's ridiculous. i mean... i am jealous.

for the above math, remember hdd's only have a sustained write of around 100 MB/s So 1 Gb/s won't give you much 100 mb/s coudln't give you for a single user experience. Also not to mention... those are max speeds I'm running on 16 mb/s comcast but with packet loss etc that's more like 4 mb/s sustained to my computer. Also the content host has to be equally as fast and able to handle multiple connections at those speeds... something I don't think is prooven.

I'm not sure why I'm being a wet blanket, but saddly high speed broad band isn't really available in the US mostly due to the low population density some of my friends can still only get dial up or satellite. I hear some small rural communities are paying for fiber optic but it's not widespread yet

Great net, shame about the house prices! Best of all is the mortgage, it's a lovely present you get to pass on to your children.

Originally Posted by ComputerKing
HOLY COW! I must vista japan and download 8 TB in about 10 days

each min = 60GB --- each hour = 60 X 60 = 3600GB --- each day 3600 X 24 = 86400GB

WOWOOWWOW must move to japan :) my internet is 2mb/s :( that is the best in whole UAE :(

Erm, a terabit is 1,000 gigabits, not 10,000. So 86,400 gigabits is 86.4 Terabits, not 8. So about 10 terabytes.

We also have 1 Gb in Slovenia but for a far heftier price - 1k €. For 50 € you can get 50/50 Mbit. Though only on fibre which is about 5 cities. It will be long before the whole country is on fiber (especially rural regions, like my village).

I'm with Be* and they do 24Mbit down and 2.4Mbit up (theoretical of course) for £22 a month with no caps, throttling or similar *******ry. Be* are pretty popular, so the £30 example used is a bit out of whack.

..... I know, still kind of irrelevant compared to Gb up and down... but I thought I would try and make it seem a "little" less like we are getting shafted here in the UK.

Grumble grumble grumble

Best I can get here is 8Mb cable and then they charge you $100 for one of their monkeys to come "install" in and $100 for the modem :(

I ended up going with 3Mb DSL which was still a pain in the arse, but at least it's in.

omg WOW... pointless due to hardware limitations... but still WOW and whats funny is computers per home is far fewer then anywhere else, well in the major cities of japan, they are more for the small and mobile end of things but ya wow... well one more reason to move to Japan, my list keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Well, my Uni halls' line gets 48Mbps on what was advertised as 2MBps.. that's uncapped.

I ain't complaining.

Originally Posted by Bauul
Erm, a terabit is 1,000 gigabits, not 10,000. So 86,400 gigabits is 86.4 Terabits, not 8. So about 10 terabytes.

A terabit is actually 1024 gigabits.

Well i'm waiting for fibrecity to start laying cables here (bournemouth) which should get about 100mbs (which should mean a speed of 12 megabites a second max 12%) they are doing the installation for free at the moment, but who knows what price the service will be as they only do the cable to you house through the sewers and the rest is by another isp.

the thing is that it doesn't matter much having fiber at a local level when the UK is still running its core infrastructure on decades old twisted copper cabling. No government will spend the millions (billions?) needed to upgrade our entire system because it will be money being spent on something that the tabloid-addled general public won't see and hence will think is a waste of money and as such will result in them not voting for whatever party has the balls to implement something like that at the next election.

At the root of it all it comes down to politics and political survival, not money.

Around DFW, Texas, USA; Verizon is installing fiber to the home in new housing communities. Unfortunatly, the developer has to agree to it prior to any road work/land leveling. They would love to be able to install to existing neighborhoods, but dealing with city zoning for utilities is alot more costly to get that last mile to existing homes. Either by above ground lines, or in ground, it is not easy to retrofit existing utility pathways. Take into account that fiber can't be simply spliced as wire can, and that turning radius is alot larger, and that repairs, (think tornadoes here), can take forever to repair fiber breaks.
However, with multiplexing the fiber, (multi wavelengths of [colors] data can be upgraded in future once the fiber is installed), bandwidth is upgradable by new hardware repeaters and switching boxes.
Another point verizon is trying to corner is that, (at least here in texas), copper wiring is de-regulated here so anyone can feasably lease the wire, however fiber is not. So at least for the near future, they would hold all the rights as to who can use their fiber network. As they are installing into new homes they are providing a small battery UPS to protect users that pay for phone service through fiber, to allow the users phone to still function in the event of power outage, and this raises the cost per home install as well.

With all of this information, I don't see the majority of the US getting fiber anytime soon, and high bandwidth without reasonable limits even further away.

It's Symmetric/Asymmetric, Rather than Synchronous/asynchronous

In slovenia we have FTTH:
10/10Mbit/s 14€
20/20Mbit/s 28€
50/50Mbit/s 50€
100/100Mbit/s 100€
1/1Gbit/s 1000€

Why i cant see EUR sign. All those price have EUR.

Why would anybody sit at their computer with gigabit Internet against all of the insanely good race circuits in Japan?

GEEKS!

Technologically its amazing, plain and simple. But lets face it, do the majority of people really NEED 1Gb/s BB?

Originally Posted by Amon
Why would anybody sit at their computer with gigabit Internet against all of the insanely good race circuits in Japan?

I would LOVE to try the Tsukuba Circuit in an NSX :D

Originally Posted by Akava
Technologically its amazing, plain and simple. But lets face it, do the majority of people really NEED 1Gb/s BB?

I don't think they know they need it. Granted today, the majority of people won't use that much bandwidth in their day to day life. But some will. Kids wanting to watch movies for a monty python marathon, (legal of course), or for the entrepreneur who wants to direct/film movies, or support their local community with homebrew websites. People telecommuting for work, would definitely cry for joy for this.

Allow for future web apps to become more robust, and not throttled to small interpipes.

Here in my town in New Zealand we still have shitty old copper phone lines. I get a 2 - 3 Mb download and about 100 kb upload!

I pay $35 base plan and $1 per GB after that.

Originally Posted by Wolfe
It's Symmetric/Asymmetric, Rather than Synchronous/asynchronous

Ack. You're absolutely right - how embarrassing. Especially when you consider I do networking for a living...

Haha, we have to pay like 50€ for a damn 8/1 connection here in the land of Nokia and 3G.

goddamn. the most we'll get in aussieland is 24Mb/s. Which I am soon getting (from a measly 1.5Mb/s)

Originally Posted by Akava
Technologically its amazing, plain and simple. But lets face it, do the majority of people really NEED 1Gb/s BB?

depends, do we need it now for what we do now on the internet? (read emails, download drivers, stream music and such) no.
Do we need it to allow for future development of other applications? yes, for example streaming multiple tv channels in 1080p simultanously (many households allready have more than one tv) would not be possible without such technology, also what the it bigshots call the next big thing (cloud computing) will require a massive boost in internet connection speeds.

*Adds another reason to his list of "Why go live to Japan?!"*

It's a total pain that the powers that be are dragging their heels over fibre to the home in the UK. At the very least, all large new residential developments should have it as a matter of course. Otherwise it just adds to the bill when they have to dig it up to install it in 5 years or whatever, whereas the marginal cost of installation at build time is negligible.

Also, major populous areas should really be rolling out FTTH by now, or at least taking the opportunity to run the cables when the roads are being dug up anyway. In London you can't walk 5 yards without having to go round some roadworks for resurfacing, gas or electrical work or the latest pet project, replacing 1000 miles of victorian pipes - would it really kill them to run a couple of lengths of fibre at the same time?