PAK Group to sue pr0n pirates

The PAK Group has decided enough is enough, and is to sue video sharing sites that host copies of members' members.

If you download music from shady sites you've got the RIAA to face; grab pre-release movies and the MPAA will want a word; but who defends the rights of the poor porn stars? PAK, that's who.

The PAK Group was formed in September last year by a selection of 'adult entertainment' producers sick of seeing their (ahem) hard work being distributed gratis on the 'net. According to DailyTech the group is now starting legal proceedings against the so-called 'tube' sites which offer to (excuse me) fill a gap left by the porn moratorium on YouTube. Offering instant-access streaming grot, the sites – which I will not be linking to, assuming that I even know the addresses – make revenue based on advertising on the pages. As many rights owners found with YouTube, the vast majority of content on such sites is there without the knowledge or permission of the original copyright holder.

The people behind the content aren't going to let a little thing like social decency or shame stop them proceeding against the purveyors of purloined porn, either: PAK founder Jason Tucker has announced that his anti-piracy group is shifting from its original intention to sue individual peer-to-peer file sharers and is now aiming firmly at the YouTube-alikes out there – which, it must be said, are a far more attractive target with bigger pockets should the judge find in favour of PAK Group. Speaking to porn periodical XBIZ – again, I'll refrain from linking – Tucker claimed that “the use of stolen content had become so pervasive that I couldn't surf the adult Internet without running into stolen copies of our images.” Instead of the nice, relaxing executive relief Tucker had come to expect of his nightly adventures on the “adult Internet”, he found the piracy “really put a damper on my late-night porn surfing [and] really upset me to no end. Instead of enjoying adult entertainment, I started to use those late-night hours to document thieves.

In order to keep his nightly soujourns sacrosanct, Tucker now relies on spidering software that hunts out content created by members of his cartel of coochie. With a lawsuit against a “major tube site” imminent, Tucker warns ne'er-do-wells that “we are coordinated. We are your affiliates, we are the guys you sit next to at industry dinners and the people that bump your posts on boards. Hiding is hard to do when we know what you look like, bro.

With Tucker claiming that he doesn't “see the problem with the end users [of pirated porn] as much as I do companies creating locations where the exploitation of stolen works in encouraged”, it looks like the PAK Group has finally accepted that litigation against end-users is both fruitless and actively damagaing to the very brand anti-piracy groups like PAK and the *AAs are set up to protect. Now if he can just spread the word...

Do you agree with Tucker's belief that the sticky subject of policing of 'adult entertainment' piracy is just as important as that of music and films, or should the adult industry stick their complaints where the sun doesn't shine? Share your thoughts over in the forums.
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 09:11
Even anti-piracy has it's funny side I guess :D
Quote Mongoose132 5th August 2008, 09:14
Too True :p
Imagine the letter you would get if they start coming after people...
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 09:17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongoose132
Too True :p
Imagine the letter you would get if they start coming after people...

God.

I'd want one for the sake of a good laugh :D
Quote kylew 5th August 2008, 09:23
Just looks like another bunch jumping on the anti-piracy bandwagon.

All the crap about 'theft' and 'loss of earnings' are just them being greedy and wanting more and more money.

They aren't losing sales, because the chances are, the people who are 'stealing' their content most probably wouldn't have bought it any way.

At least they aren't going after individuals though, this is where the RIAA/MPAA and all the others totally invalidate their cries of deprivation, it's their problem people turn to downloading 'stolen' property, if they weren't so tight and charged less for their goods they'd sell more.

Say I download a movie, and it's utterly crap, they weren't getting my money in the first place, but, I downloaded 'I am legend' before it was in the cinemas, I liked it so I went the cinema to see it, and bought the bluray of it when it came out.

If all bluray movies were £10, I'd be buying them all the time, but £20-£30 for a movie and they wonder why people turn to downloading? They weren't getting my £20-30 in the first place, so stop complaining that you haven't milked yet another person for their money.

/rant over :D
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 09:25
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Originally Posted by kylew
They aren't losing sales, because the chances are, the people who are 'stealing' their content most probably wouldn't have bought it any way.

Probably because the majority are too young :D
Quote cpemma 5th August 2008, 09:38
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Originally Posted by Mongoose132
Too True :p
Imagine the letter you would get if they start coming after people...
"We know where you live", I imagine...
Quote theevilelephant 5th August 2008, 10:35
imagine someone turning up for that court case :P

Judge: "So you downloaded Aged Nun Fetishists Delight at 02:17 on 03/02/07, am I correct?"
Defendant: *mumble*
Quote modgodtanvir 5th August 2008, 10:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpemma
"We know where you live", I imagine...

If Jenna Haze turned up at my doorstep, I wouldn't be complaining... :p
Quote liratheal 5th August 2008, 10:52
Quote:
Originally Posted by theevilelephant
imagine someone turning up for that court case :P

Judge: "So you downloaded Aged Nun Fetishists Delight at 02:17 on 03/02/07, am I correct?"
Defendant: *mumble*

"I was only curious your honour, and I was drunk!"
Quote sinkhead 5th August 2008, 11:51
As long as they only go after the guys making money from piracy and not the end users, I have no problem with them. Piracy for personal use, in my mind, is nowhere near as bad as people making money from piracy.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 5th August 2008, 12:12
This guy is pathetic... finding "stolen" images on the internet actually made him that depressed?

Jesus, get a frickin' life.
Quote Penrhos 5th August 2008, 12:17
So the exploiters are getting exploited...... My heart bleads.

Mind you if someone from PAK turns up on your doorstep with a large trunchion in hand - be very afraid....

"Your honour the accused had 600 divx pron movies on his hard drive - but only confessed to watching the first five minutes of each"
Quote sotu1 5th August 2008, 12:35
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Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
This guy is pathetic... finding "stolen" images on the internet actually made him that depressed?

Jesus, get a frickin' life.

let's be fair here, it's still his work being pirated like anyone elses work.

it's just that sex is a far better way for someone to enjoy work.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 5th August 2008, 12:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by sotu1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy_the_tortoise
This guy is pathetic... finding "stolen" images on the internet actually made him that depressed?

Jesus, get a frickin' life.

let's be fair here, it's still his work being pirated like anyone elses work.

it's just that sex is a far better way for someone to enjoy work.

I don't care what his work is.. No one should be depressed by it.. I mean, come on..
Quote Silver51 5th August 2008, 16:10
What we really need is for them to go after the end user in much the same way as the RIAA and MPAA, suing OAPs and dead people for looking at indecent material.

Then Cupertino can step in with their new online service iJerk, DRM encoded video and images for the iPod generation.
Quote E.E.L. Ambiense 5th August 2008, 17:24
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Originally Posted by modgodtanvir
If Jenna Haze turned up at my doorstep, I wouldn't be complaining... :p

I'd complain, but only with my economy-sized can of Lysol® disinfectant. :D
Quote OleJ 5th August 2008, 23:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpemma
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mongoose132
Too True :p
Imagine the letter you would get if they start coming after people...
"We know where you live", I imagine...

LOL @ Sending someone a letter in the mail saying "we know where you live". If they are able to mail that kind of says "we know where you live". So in essence that amounts to sending a blank letter with just their logo or something else identifying the sender and nothing more.
LOL
Quote Amon 6th August 2008, 02:24
Just be barefaced about it: RedTube.

Ooohh, so what?
Quote C0nKer 6th August 2008, 04:32
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Originally Posted by liratheal
"I was only curious your honour, and I was drunk!"

Judge : "You do realize you are well below the drinking age."
Quote PhenomRed 6th August 2008, 08:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by modgodtanvir
If Jenna Haze turned up at my doorstep, I wouldn't be complaining... :p

you're assuming that i let her out of my basement...
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