Microsoft has pledged that it will never cancel any game it announces, for better or worse.

Microsoft has pledged that it will never cancel any game it announces, for better or worse.

Almost as a response to Sony cancelling development on PlayStation 3 games Eight Days and The Getaway PS3, Microsoft has pledged that it will never cancel any game it announces.

The comments came from Business Development Manager Peter Zetterberg as part of an interview with GI.biz in which Zetterberg admitted that although some games are announced too early, Microsoft will never cancel any game it announces.

"Maybe we sometimes announce [games] earlier than we should, but we stick with them, we have our resources team work with them as much as we can," said Zetterberg.

Zetterberg said he sees around 600 game concepts pitched to him every year, ranging from ideas scrawled on napkins to full video presentations. Of those presentations, only about 30 go beyond that stage and into discussion. That 30 is then narrowed to 5 games that might get greenlighted.

"There's a reason why Microsoft hasn't been that successful in the past on the continent, because they sit in Redmond and it's hard to understand how to make 15 games for a smaller European market," Zetterberg said.

"We've always moved on a global basis and this means that sometimes we have missed out on the smaller things. If you look at World of Goo or Crayon Physics, these can be easily overlooked by a large corporation that thinks global."

Can you think of a recently cancelled Microsoft game? Have you ever had an idea for a game yourself? Let us know in the forums.
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Quote Xtrafresh 13th June 2008, 10:14
now we all should wait for MS to announce Duke Nukem Forever
Quote cjoyce1980 13th June 2008, 10:33
how about the next Panzer Dragoon game...
Quote p3n 13th June 2008, 10:55
That'd be an impressive claim if companies were forced to annouce what they were working on....
Quote Bauul 13th June 2008, 11:36
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That'd be an impressive claim if companies were forced to annouce what they were working on....

True, but at least if they cancel a game they haven;t annouced, it's no skin off our nose. At least we won't know about it, unlike a game that has been announced and is then subsequently cancelled.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 12:25
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 13th June 2008, 12:34
Childish?

4 Year olds?

Eh?! They're just promising their customers that they will never announce a game only to have it subsequently cancelled.

I don't see what's childish about that. It's quite good of them, if they can keep the promise.
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 13th June 2008, 12:51
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Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The only reason it probably is outsold is because its a cheaper blue ray player with a buildin gameconsole.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 13th June 2008, 13:00
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Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The only reason it probably is outsold is because its a cheaper blue ray player with a buildin gameconsole.

Aye, I've got a mate who only uses his PS3 for Blu-Rays.. I've never seen him play a PS3 game.
Quote UncertainGod 13th June 2008, 13:02
Yes, but it is no coincidence that this flurry of anti-sony speak is coming at a time when the PS3 is turning the tide.

They can get back to me when they make a console that isn't a fire hazard.
Quote TreeDude 13th June 2008, 13:11
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.
Quote rollo 13th June 2008, 13:40
treedude neither ms or sony need the money lol

MS lost 1billion in the last year in fines alone, And another £1billion fixing the 360

sony probably lost the same amount in diffrent places.

id love to see profit predictions for both companys from just the 360 and ps3

id be amased if either is in profit
Quote themax 13th June 2008, 13:47
True Fantasy Online called, they want their release back.
Quote DougEdey 13th June 2008, 13:54
You're saying they don't need the money? And then you say that they paid billions in fines?

You either have a very poor grasp of English or you're an idiot.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 14:16
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Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.
Quote Krikkit 13th June 2008, 14:26
Maybe MS can say they never cancel a game because they cut out a few too many games which could be classics, and just look a bit sketchy to start with. Maybe Sony say yes, then pull a game which doesn't quite cut the mustard later on.

Either way this gay "I'm better than you, nanana" attitude from MS will do them no favours.
Quote MrMonroe 13th June 2008, 14:59
I love how quickly this thread degenerated into squabbling fanboys bitching about which system is better, when it is obvious that both systems are equally inferior to PCs.

In all seriousness, it is about content, of which the PS3 has very little that is original or exclusive. (unless you count blu-ray movies)

Now, as this regards to the actual article, this doesn't really indicate that they will produce better games, it just indicates that they won't ever back down. Why they would make a promise like this I don't know... if a game dies stillborn why waste time and money shipping it and dealing with customer complaints?
Quote badders 13th June 2008, 15:03
<Looks at how the thread has turned>

Oh no, not again.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 13th June 2008, 15:20
I get annoyed at fanboys shouting their ill-informed crap at each other as much as anyone, but why is it that bad for a console to have a fanbase? Would you stop a communist from debating economics with a capitalist? The debate is just as futile, since both parties are so adamant that they are correct.

I'm annoyed with fanboys, but I'm also annoyed with anti-fanboys. Shut the **** up and ignore it.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 15:25
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I love how quickly this thread degenerated into squabbling fanboys bitching about which system is better, when it is obvious that both systems are equally inferior to PCs.

In all seriousness, it is about content, of which the PS3 has very little that is original or exclusive. (unless you count blu-ray movies)

Now, as this regards to the actual article, this doesn't really indicate that they will produce better games, it just indicates that they won't ever back down. Why they would make a promise like this I don't know... if a game dies stillborn why waste time and money shipping it and dealing with customer complaints?

That is your opinion, the people buying more PS3's then 360's disagree. The Ps3 lineup this year looks much stronger then the 360.
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 13th June 2008, 15:32
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I get annoyed at fanboys shouting their ill-informed crap at each other as much as anyone, but why is it that bad for a console to have a fanbase? Would you stop a communist from debating economics with a capitalist? The debate is just as futile, since both parties are so adamant that they are correct.

I'm annoyed with fanboys, but I'm also annoyed with anti-fanboys. Shut the **** up and ignore it.

I just realised how hipocritical that was...


Sorry...
Quote Drexial 13th June 2008, 15:44
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Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.

PS3 Fanboys are a sad lot when they cant realize the console sales mean nothing when no one is buying the games... I don't have either a PS3 or 360. I am a PC gamer, so I have no bias towards either. But in all honestly, I would say 40% of the PS3's sold we sold because of blue ray capabilities. I know in the store I worked in at the time of release, there was no one beating down our door for them as a gaming console, all the PS3s we sold were sold from our home theater department as Blu-ray players with gaming capabilities.

I just don't see that many games for the PS3, at least none that are exclusive. Any good looking game that the PS3 has, most of them are available on the 360 as well. There is just no real advantage to the PS3 in my opinion.
Quote TreeDude 13th June 2008, 15:59
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.

Again PS3 sales are more about the Blue-Ray player than anything. Why would you get a PS3? The games? All the great games on the PS3 are on the 360 as well, and generally play better on the 360 because of the huge online community. PS3 does not have an exclusive killer app like the 360 does. Whether you personally like Halo or not, no one can deny the game sells unbelievably well.

Maybe things will turn around when FFXIII rolls in. Of coarse the point is moot, Nintendo is #1 right now.

And don't imply I am a fan boy, I don't own any of the next gen consoles. I have my PC, PS2, GC, and DS.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 16:16
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Originally Posted by TreeDude
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.

Again PS3 sales are more about the Blue-Ray player than anything. Why would you get a PS3? The games? All the great games on the PS3 are on the 360 as well, and generally play better on the 360 because of the huge online community. PS3 does not have an exclusive killer app like the 360 does. Whether you personally like Halo or not, no one can deny the game sells unbelievably well.

Maybe things will turn around when FFXIII rolls in. Of coarse the point is moot, Nintendo is #1 right now.

And don't imply I am a fan boy, I don't own any of the next gen consoles. I have my PC, PS2, GC, and DS.


LOL, load of BS, the vast majority of people barely know what Blu-Ray is or cares, it will be 5 years before it becomes mainstream. People know the playstation as a gaming system and that is why the majority are buying it. Most people are not tech saavy, nor are on top of the latest in it,.

Have any facts to back up that bogus claim? Blu-ray is not selling well, most people are happy with DVD for the forseeable future.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 16:18
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.

PS3 Fanboys are a sad lot when they cant realize the console sales mean nothing when no one is buying the games... I don't have either a PS3 or 360. I am a PC gamer, so I have no bias towards either. But in all honestly, I would say 40% of the PS3's sold we sold because of blue ray capabilities. I know in the store I worked in at the time of release, there was no one beating down our door for them as a gaming console, all the PS3s we sold were sold from our home theater department as Blu-ray players with gaming capabilities.

I just don't see that many games for the PS3, at least none that are exclusive. Any good looking game that the PS3 has, most of them are available on the 360 as well. There is just no real advantage to the PS3 in my opinion.



Proof?

The only reason 360 game sales are higher are because of the year start and larger install base, many PS3 games have sold in the millions, learn the facts. Blu-Ray sales are less then 1%, so no, most people are buying the PS3 as a gsming system. If no ome was buying games game companies would not make games for it anymore, let alone exclusives. That is a BS argument spread by 360 fanboys. The software sales will overtakle the 360 as the console install base gets larger.
Quote devdevil85 13th June 2008, 16:34
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In all seriousness, it is about content, of which the PS3 has very little that is original or exclusive. (unless you count blu-ray movies)
Really....very little exclusives? For some reason when I count, I find 35+ exclusive titles for the system not including titles like Ninja Gaiden Sigma or course. There is plenty of content for both systems, thank you.
Quote landi_uk 13th June 2008, 16:39
WOW Lepermessiah, take a pill, chill out and go back to your PS3, before you get accused of being a PS3 fanboy.

I have both PS3 AND 360.... which do I play on the most .... the 360, because the online side is more polished and complete than on the PS3.

I'm a "social" gamer and couldn't care less about these "my console's better than yours" arguments that appear on EVERY thread on the net where a site dares to do a comparison between the consoles.

I just wish I could get news and commentary without all the flame wars
Quote CardJoe 13th June 2008, 16:43
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Really....very little exclusives? For some reason when I count, I find 35+ exclusive titles for the system not including titles like Ninja Gaiden Sigma or course. There is plenty of content for both systems, thank you.

There are exclusives, and exclusives. MGS4? An exclusive. Ninja Gaiden Sigma? Not an exclusive. It's essentially a port of the earlier game.

Likewise, there are 35+ exclusives, but when many of those are games that are far off or PSN type things then it doesn't really count for much. By that meter you could count every single XBL game as an exclusive.
Quote TreeDude 13th June 2008, 17:20
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Originally Posted by TreeDude
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Originally Posted by TreeDude
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
Ms are sounding mroe and more childiish and desperate as the 360 was once again outsold in the US by the PS3, and even more world wide. Why do they act like 4 year olds? sad.

The 360 already has a strong user base. PS3 does not. Also the money is actually made by the software sales. In that regard MS is KILLING Sony.


Point? Yeah, and soon the PS3 will have a larger install base, it has outsold the 360 everywhere in the same time frame, and even in its own country, no matter how you spin it, the 360 will be third again this gen, they predict by 09, the PS3 will be past the 360. Easy to get a larger install base when you have a year start, that is the only thing MS had going for them. Despite being more expensive, and having competition (360 had none its first year), it has outsold it.

360 fanboys are a sad lot, first they were bragging how the 360 was doing so well, now the PS3 is turniong the tide, they fall back on the software sales excuse, the only reason that is the case for NOW, is the year head start, that will also change as Sony surpasses MS and the red ring of death console.

Again PS3 sales are more about the Blue-Ray player than anything. Why would you get a PS3? The games? All the great games on the PS3 are on the 360 as well, and generally play better on the 360 because of the huge online community. PS3 does not have an exclusive killer app like the 360 does. Whether you personally like Halo or not, no one can deny the game sells unbelievably well.

Maybe things will turn around when FFXIII rolls in. Of coarse the point is moot, Nintendo is #1 right now.

And don't imply I am a fan boy, I don't own any of the next gen consoles. I have my PC, PS2, GC, and DS.


LOL, load of BS, the vast majority of people barely know what Blu-Ray is or cares, it will be 5 years before it becomes mainstream. People know the playstation as a gaming system and that is why the majority are buying it. Most people are not tech saavy, nor are on top of the latest in it,.

Have any facts to back up that bogus claim? Blu-ray is not selling well, most people are happy with DVD for the forseeable future.

It can be argued that people don't care about Blue-Ray. But most people know what it is. You can't walk into any major electronics store without seeing a Blue-Ray kiosk (or 3, which is what my local Best Buy has).

all i am saying is there is no reason to get a PS3 if all the bast games are on the 360 and the 360 is a cheaper console. The choice is easy to make even for a non-tech savy person.
Quote Lepermessiah 13th June 2008, 17:49
Best games are on 360? says you, lol. stop making blanket statements that have no facts behind them, pure opinion and many will argue the opposite. The opnly reason the 360 has more software sales is it jhas more users, pretty simple concept, year head start. That will also go bye bye soon.
Quote DougEdey 13th June 2008, 18:05
Can't they just co-exist in harmony?

I know my Wii and my 360 love each other to bits, I swear they share a disc at night when I'm a sleep they're a dirty couple really
Quote devdevil85 13th June 2008, 18:21
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Really....very little exclusives? For some reason when I count, I find 35+ exclusive titles for the system not including titles like Ninja Gaiden Sigma or course. There is plenty of content for both systems, thank you.

There are exclusiv