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XP SP3 delayed by RMS

XP SP3 delayed by RMS

If you're hoping to install Windows XP SP3 from an official source, you'll have to wait a little while longer.

If you're wondering why you haven't been able to download Service Pack 3 for your Windows XP install, then blame Microsoft.

The update, which promises speed improvements alongside bugfixes galore and which is likely to be the last official Service Pack produced for the last-generation operating system, was supposed to be released to Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center on the 29th of April. Don't bother rushing off to check – it never happened.

According to ZDNet blogger Mary Jo Foley the reason is due to a compatibility issue between SP3 and the Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System, or RMS. RMS is a point-of-sale system developed by Microsoft and aimed at small businesses, so it's not likely to be something that'll stop any of our readers installing SP3 on their home machines.

Nevertheless, Microsoft has elected to delay the release of the service pack until a filter can be put in place preventing systems with Microsoft Dynamic RMS installed from being offered SP3. Foley quotes an un-named Microsoft spokesman as saying that “the fix is currently in testing and will be available as soon as that process is complete.

The issue doesn't just affect Windows XP's latest service pack, either – whatever the incompatibility with RMS is, Windows Vista SP1 causes the same issues. As a result, Microsoft has chosen to remove Vista SP1 from the list of updates delivered to systems via Automatic Updates until a similar filter can be developed to prevent installation on a system running RMS. Unlike XP SP3, Vista SP1 will remain available for manual downloading and installation via the Microsoft Download Center and the 'Custom' option in Windows Update.

If you are running RMS and would still quite like to update your system to the latest version – something that won't be possible even after the 'fix' has been deployed and the service packs returned to their rightful places – then Microsoft's only advice is to “contact Microsoft Customer Support Services for additional information.” If you've already installed XP SP3 or Vista SP1 on your point-of-sale system, then I'd advise crossing your fingers and checking your backups.

Anybody here still waiting for XP SP3, or did you get too impatient and download it from another source? Share your thoughts over in the forums.

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xalek 2nd May 2008, 09:46 Quote
I managed to get the SP3 FINAL release from the web yesterday, although not from MS's downloaded page and i've had no problems AT ALL with the install, unlike the beta's that I had tried, which all managed to BSOD my media center setup
_DTM2000_ 2nd May 2008, 09:53 Quote
MS did release SP3, they just pulled it immediately after due to finding the compatibility with RMS.
I know an MS beta tester who managed to download it in the short time it was available. It's installed on my PC at work now.
Apparently MS won't be making any changes to the service pack, they are going to get round the RMS issue by putting filters on the auto update system to stop RMS users installing it for now. Once they have these filters in place they will be re-releasing SP3.
So I would expect it to be available very soon.
Woodstock 2nd May 2008, 10:10 Quote
i was about to say that its on the campus network, and i doubt they would get it from an unofficial source
Paolo 2nd May 2008, 10:22 Quote
Why not put the service pack up for manual download for us guys? Surely that would make sense!!
phuzz 2nd May 2008, 10:23 Quote
It's still available for download from M$ here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/svpk/2008/04/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4.exe
There's just not an official page right now (and it's not been pushed out to WSUS etc. yet), but the download worked fine for me. Been running the RC2 version for a while now with no problems so I'm rolling it out to some of the PCs here at work with absolutely no problems so far.
(crosses fingers, touches wood, hugs lucky rabbit's foot)
jezmck 2nd May 2008, 11:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by phuzz
...hugs lucky rabbit's foot.
not so lucky for the rabbit.
DXR_13KE 2nd May 2008, 11:52 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by phuzz
hugs lucky rabbit's foot)

either you are small or the rabbit was huge. :D
proxess 2nd May 2008, 13:32 Quote
phuzz, thanks for the link!
MiNiMaL_FuSS 2nd May 2008, 14:32 Quote
seconded, thanks phuzz - downloading it now.
Kierax 2nd May 2008, 15:50 Quote
Great thanks for the link.

Downloading now, this is the final one? verified?
MiNiMaL_FuSS 2nd May 2008, 15:56 Quote
download keeps gettng stuck for me, might be firefox playing up i suppose?
Kierax 2nd May 2008, 16:09 Quote
I got it fine 1.4MB per sec all the way, just installed it now, WLM is acting up though on a repair install.
E.E.L. Ambiense 2nd May 2008, 16:39 Quote
I DLed it first thing release day before they pulled it, but haven't installed yet. System it'd go in is in shambles right now anyways.
notatoad 2nd May 2008, 17:27 Quote
RMS, huh? i didn't think he had that kind of power.
mrb_no1 2nd May 2008, 18:04 Quote
thanks phuzz, awesome work
cyrilthefish 3rd May 2008, 00:28 Quote
I'm still sulking theres no 64bit sp3 :(

I don't really want to move to vista and can't really as it's so unstable...

it's better than it was at start but vista still = 2-3 bluescreens per day even with a clean install with only nvidia mobo drivers + ati video drivers installed... linux/xp on the same setup is 100% rock-stable

it's a shame as vista seems to have the memory management of linux with the compatibility of xp... when it's not busy bluescreening that is :(
cebla 3rd May 2008, 04:14 Quote
There must be something wrong with your drivers cyrilthefish. My Vista install has been running fine for almost a year now. I don't think I have even had one blue screen.
DXR_13KE 3rd May 2008, 11:22 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by cebla
There must be something wrong with your drivers cyrilthefish. My Vista install has been running fine for almost a year now. I don't think I have even had one blue screen.

yeah, my brothers computer is rock solid and works with vista.
Icy EyeG 6th May 2008, 20:56 Quote
Sorry for the little bump, but it seems that Windows XP SP3 is back up again (I got a message via automatic updates). I'm downloading and installing now (Portuguese version).
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