The Air: sure it's sexy, but you'd be more likely to catch your flight if you owned a Thinkpad.

The Air: sure it's sexy, but you'd be more likely to catch your flight if you owned a Thinkpad.

If you're hoping that a MacBook Air might be just the thing to complement your jet-setting lifestyle, perhaps you'd better wait until they become a more common sight – as a Mac fan has found to his consternation.

Michael Nygard was taking his shiny new toy – sans manilla envelope – on an internal flight to San Jose, and encountered a problem so bizarre that he had to write about it in a blog posting entitled “Steve Jobs Made Me Miss My Flight.

While checking in to the flight and passing his carry-on luggage – containing his ultra-slim pride and joy – through the airport X-ray machine, he was halted and his luggage snagged by security staff. After unpacking the laptop and asking Michael to follow them to a cubicle, the security staff are faced with a puzzle as vexing as the monkeys were in 2001.

Michael recalls one team member scratching their head and bemoaning the lack of hard-drive visible on the X-ray imagery. The same staff member declares that there are “no ports on the back.

Just before receiving the rubber glove treatment, Michael was saved when a younger, hipper TSA staffer arrived on the scene. “The new arrival looked at the printouts from x-ray” and much to Michael's relief told the rest of the staff that “it is a real laptop, not a "device".

Despite this corroboration from one of their own, the chief TSA official at the scene required Michael to power the Air up and run an application, just to prove it's not some twisted plot to smuggle an incredibly thin and sexy bomb on board. Job done, Michael was permitted to board the plane and depart. Well, he would have been if the TSA hadn't taken so long that the aircraft had departed without him.

I know that the TSA – and, by extension, airport security staff worldwide – are there to ensure our safety, but would it break the budget to subscribe to a gadget magazine or two?

What's your take on Michael's story: were the TSA just doing their job, or do they need to hire a better class of security personnel? Share your thoughts over in the forums.
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Quote Woodstock 12th March 2008, 07:51
now that made me lol in real life thats awesome, but ill add that i had to power on my laptop (asus fj3p) no less then 5 times going from heathrow to auckland international
Quote rhuitron 12th March 2008, 08:19
It's not a Laptop.

it's a waste of money and Precious lifetime.
Quote Cthippo 12th March 2008, 08:43
Once again, the Transportation Stupidity Administration moves swiftly to keep us safe from, um, yeah, something.
Quote Arkanrais 12th March 2008, 08:52
the anti-mac demon strikes again! muhahahah
/me laughs maniacally while chanting "f*** mac's" backwards in a satanic voice
Quote Joeymac 12th March 2008, 08:59
Security Officer 1: "uuuhhhhh uuuhhhhh uhhhh....."
Security Officer 2: "Uuhh..."
Security Officer 1: {displays look of confusion/ponderment} "UUUUUUhhh.... RAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! RAHHHH!" {smash of Macbook Air on floor}
Quote Stickeh 12th March 2008, 09:00
Its not got a hard drive or ports? OH NOES.

Why did they not just ask him to turn it on to prove it works? Imagine it now...

'Turn it on then'
*Owner leans forward*
*All TSA's in the room step slowly backwards*
Quote rhuitron 12th March 2008, 09:18
^ LOL!!!

Cant Stop laughing.
Quote Shadow_101 12th March 2008, 09:27
tbh if I hadn’t heard of the mac book air already, i would be suspicious of a laptop so thin, with no ports/hard drive. End of the day, they didn’t seize the laptop they just followed procedure. So yes, I think they where just doing there job.
Quote rjkoneill 12th March 2008, 09:39
security guy - "go on then - run an application, prove its a real computer"
michael - "ok fine - i will" [opens up itunes]

security guy - "HE CANT RIGHT CLICK! ITS A BOMB! EVERYBODY ON THE GROUND!"
Quote steveo_mcg 12th March 2008, 09:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_101
tbh if I hadn’t heard of the mac book air already, i would be suspicious of a laptop so thin, with no ports/hard drive. End of the day, they didn’t seize the laptop they just followed procedure. So yes, I think they where just doing there job.

Shadows version is correct but not as funny...

If they guy left more time no problem.
Quote Mister_Tad 12th March 2008, 09:51
Either the guy is exaggerating in the extreme (and possibly works for apple's marketing dept) or the security were far more idiotic than normal.

I've brought PSUs, motherboards, stacks of RAM, graphics cards (all on their own in a plain plastic bag) through security, they've always known exactly what they were (and not just the young, hip ones). Most of the PC bits I've bought have been smuggled in from the states at some point (in my carry-on), without any problems whatsoever.
Quote theevilelephant 12th March 2008, 10:37
after having the full airport security experience in the US (minus the rubber gloves experirence) i think that all airport security are idiotic muppets. I mean i wasnt hurtin anyone by sleeping on the floor!!

Ontopic again. i can understand their nervousness to let an electronic device that doest exactly match what they see as a laptop. yeah the air might be thin but thats more than enough space for a bomb :D
Quote Arkanrais 12th March 2008, 11:23
this just goes to show, if you want to smuggle explosives on to a plane, then put them in a harddrive casing in a standard size laptop and have your fun that way
Quote airchie 12th March 2008, 11:37
LMFAO, That's awesome! :D

I had something similar after a work trip to South Korea.
I had a 500GB external HDD, one of the Maxtor ones (I know, but I didn't pick it) in the big, thick metal case.
On the way back, I wanted to lighten my hand-luggage so placed the HDD in my main suitcase and checked it in.
10 mins later, two security guards, who don't speak much english, ask me to follow them.
I'm kinda worried until I realize they just spotted a big metal box in the middle of my bag in the x-ray.
Luckily, once I opened the bag and showed them the HDD in the flesh, they were fine with it.

Was a bit scary initially though. :D
Quote Cupboard 12th March 2008, 12:42
American Airport security seems to operate at two ends of a spectrum - on one hand them are spending loads of time over a perfectly legit thing (but I think they were right to question it if they weren't sure) and on the other I accidentally took 2 knives to and from America in my hand luggage that I had forgotten I had put there until I came to unpack.

I would have been screwed though if they had asked me to boot up my laptop on that trip though - the battery didn't hold charge so I would have needed an adapter which was stashed in my hold luggage :D
Quote Nexxo 12th March 2008, 13:03
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_101
tbh if I hadn’t heard of the mac book air already, i would be suspicious of a laptop so thin, with no ports/hard drive. End of the day, they didn’t seize the laptop they just followed procedure. So yes, I think they where just doing there job.
Perhaps, but kind of worrying that security is in the hands of people with such lack of, well, insight.

If I wanted to disguise a bomb as a laptop, it would look, quite obviously, like a generic laptop. It would look scuffed and used, it would have a functional HDD, it would run happily, I would have all the cables and accessories with it. It would look utterly unremarkable. It wouldn't look like a brand-new sliver of sleek aluminium that is just going to draw attention, admiring, curious or otherwise.

Psychology, people: the unusual is best hidden in plain sight.
Quote badders 12th March 2008, 13:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxo
Perhaps, but kind of worrying that security is in the hands of people with such lack of, well, insight.

If I wanted to disguise a bomb as a laptop, it would look, quite obviously, like a generic laptop. It would look scuffed and used, it would have a functional HDD, it would run happily, I would have all the cables and accessories with it. It would look utterly unremarkable. It wouldn't look like a brand-new sliver of sleek aluminium that is just going to draw attention, admiring, curious or otherwise.

Psychology, people: the unusual is best hidden in plain sight.

You could have the detonator on a mini-PCI card.

Best not to have an icon on your desktop that says "Detonate Now..." though.
Quote Redbeaver 12th March 2008, 13:23
ROFL!

yeah, its funny... but frequent traveller myself, i know how sucky that mustve feel... my vote is for TSA to get them some bloody education................
Quote speedfreek 12th March 2008, 14:29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodstock
now that made me lol in real life thats awesome, but ill add that i had to power on my laptop (asus fj3p) no less then 5 times going from heathrow to auckland international

How do you like yours? mine is great but the bluetooth sucks under XP

Those TSA guys are jerks, I had to sit in the middle shoeless while they searched my luggage once, they dusted it all down with these little wipes and made me feel like I was some sort of monster. They were wrong, they are the monsters!:'(
Quote HourBeforeDawn 12th March 2008, 15:57
I personally find the mac air to be a over prices and pointless, I mean really $1800us for something that has hardware equal to that of a $500-600 laptop, all so you can say, OH LOOK HOW THIN IT IS, for $1800 I would buy that Sony thats made out of carbon composite that only weighs slightly more and comes with an optical drive and 250gb versus 80gb hard drive and higher end specs and is only a little over twice the height of the air when closed. If I wanted something for internet only (primarily) I would get the new upcoming EeePC with the larger screen or HP upcoming 2133 both at around $699 that have the same functionality as that Air and weight less lol.

As you can tell Im a function over form person lol
Quote eternum 12th March 2008, 17:26
I'm going to cut across the grain here and say I'm kind of impressed with these particular TSA guys myself. They must live in a box to not know about the macbook air, but to pick up on the fact that there is no obvious hard drive and no ports shows that they were at least paying attention and thinking. They came to the wrong conclusion of course, but with the number of stories I've heard of TSA staff completely missing the obvious, this is somewhat refreshing. I don't fly much however, so I might look at things differently if that were the case.
Quote supermonkey 12th March 2008, 17:48
Ugh, TSA. I fly quite a bit and I've found TSA to be nothing but a pain. After flying to and from Florida, and to Lubbock, Texas, with a backpack full of camera gear, I was finally stopped on the way home from Lubbock. They took me aside, took out every piece of camera gear, fondled it, passed it through the X-ray machine again, went through another round of fondling, asked me if my video camera used tapes or if it was digital (well, it's kind of both), some more fondling, then they reprimanded me because all camera gear has to be taken out of its case before being passed through the X-ray machine.

My wife and infant daughter were with me on the Lubbock flight. At the TSA checkpoint in Houston, we were told that we couldn't bring our unopened bottle of water. We explained that it is for our baby's formula (the empty bottle and dehydrated formula packets that were sitting right next to it were the first clue). He looked at us and said, with utter seriousness, "Yeah, it's not formula, it's for formula." Well, yes, that was kind of the point.

He confiscated our water and told us that we could buy another bottle once we were inside the airport.

Gee, thanks for that. I can't stand TSA, and I really wish we'd get over this fear of everything that moves.

-monkey
Quote specofdust 12th March 2008, 17:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister_Tad
Either the guy is exaggerating in the extreme (and possibly works for apple's marketing dept) or the security were far more idiotic than normal.

Not fly much then? Airport security have to be the thickest bunch of "special" people I've ever had the displeasure to be in contact with. God I hate airport security, or any organisation which spends 10% of it's time working and 90% of it's time providing the illusion of safety by pissing off regular flyers and wasting everyone's time.
Quote Stickeh 12th March 2008, 18:18
Reminds me actually, i took a craft knife through EMA security to holland just fine, didnt even look in my bag.

However on the way back the super hi-tech dutch found it ok! They even had one of these full body scanners :
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ABC_TSA_BODY_SCAN_071010_ms.jpg
Not that i used it mind, i was in the opt-out queue.

Got to the end of the baggage xray machine and the guy starts searching through my bag, and keeps searching, my bags got so many little pockets i didnt know whether to help him, wether hed understand me or what, but he kept digging and pulled out the craft knife, turned to me and said 'im gonna have to arrest you dude' my face dropped i thought ****, said 'really?' and he just laughed and smiled, which while still feeling very shocked i pushed him for pulling such a thing and started (nervously) laughing haha.It was in hindsight that i probably shouldnt have pushed the fella as im not exactly the smallest guy and not knowing my own strength half the time it could have come accross much worse.

I was actually really suprised EMA didnt find it, its not exactly the shortest of knives, or the easiest to hide!
Quote Woodstock 12th March 2008, 19:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedfreek
How do you like yours? mine is great but the bluetooth sucks under XP

Those TSA guys are jerks, I had to sit in the middle shoeless while they searched my luggage once, they dusted it all down with these little wipes and made me feel like I was some sort of monster. They were wrong, they are the monsters!:'(

im personally love it, bought it when i was on holiday in the uk 9 months, ago so i got double the specs for the price i would have got hear and still got the international warranty. Great linux support as well. Dont own anything bluetooth so i wouldnt know about that
Quote Mister_Tad 12th March 2008, 19:36
Quote:
Originally Posted by specofdust
Not fly much then? Airport security have to be the thickest bunch of "special" people I've ever had the displeasure to be in contact with. God I hate airport security, or any organisation which spends 10% of it's time working and 90% of it's time providing the illusion of safety by pissing off regular flyers and wasting everyone's time.

I fly quite a bit. I've ran in to more than my fair share of dumbasses all over the airport, but have never got a moron on the x-ray machine. They have always appeared to be reasonably up on what's what, as I would think they should be seeing the amount of stuff they see pass through.
Quote Indybird 12th March 2008, 20:02
That is awesome!

Imagine if he had some kind of weapon or military themed wallpaper though? He probably would've been there a lot longer.

-Indybird
Quote DXR_13KE 12th March 2008, 20:38
is there still a ban of liquids?
Quote Supra55 12th March 2008, 20:47
DXR_13KE: You can have them but it has to be packed into a damned small container (I think mainly due to the increased availability of Binary/Liquid explosives in a stable-then-deadly-during-flight package, like a Gatorade bottle hmph 1 drop vaporizes a good sized watermelon think about a gallon of the stuff =| )
This is pretty funny, stop a man because you're to ignorant about the latest and greatest crap the average business man will be carrying onto his airline. Honestly, keep a nice little poster on what the average teen, child, concerned parent, business man/woman, and what the weird hippie has, on average, with them at an airport.
Quote B3CK 12th March 2008, 22:57
Quote:
Originally Posted by rhuitron
It's not a Laptop.

it's a waste of money and Precious lifetime.

A-men
Quote Fozzy 14th March 2008, 04:54
I smuggle my lighters through all of the time, I stick them at the bottom of my backpack and nobody knows. I usually wouldn't test the security but after four hours in a crowded seat, if I don't have a lighter as soon as I get outside to smoke a cig I'LL ****IN KILL SOMEBODY!!!!
Quote crazybob 14th March 2008, 05:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxo
If I wanted to disguise a bomb as a laptop, it would look, quite obviously, like a generic laptop. It would look scuffed and used, it would have a functional HDD, it would run happily, I would have all the cables and accessories with it. It would look utterly unremarkable. It wouldn't look like a brand-new sliver of sleek aluminium that is just going to draw attention, admiring, curious or otherwise.
I was going to say exactly this. If you're going to drag a bomb through an airport, you don't make it look unusual in any way. If I were TSA personnel, I think I would actually be less suspicious of something that obvious. That is, of course, if I lived in a cave and hadn't heard of the thing to begin with.
Quote Wicz 16th March 2008, 12:21
They did their jobs, plain and simple!

Imagine the outcry if it was a 'device' and they had ignored it to the dertriment of a plane full of passengers. Some people clearly need to think before they type.
Quote DXR_13KE 16th March 2008, 12:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicz
They did their jobs, plain and simple!

Imagine the outcry if it was a 'device' and they had ignored it to the dertriment of a plane full of passengers. Some people clearly need to think before they type.

there are hundreds of ways you could smuggle a bomb into a plane and blow it out of the air.....
Quote theevilelephant 16th March 2008, 13:31
well after security you can buy razor blades (could make a knife), alchohol and paper = fire, and im sure if you know more about chemistry than me there are hundreds more possibilities.....


p.s. i havent over thought this.... well it was a long flight from uk to NZ
Quote specofdust 16th March 2008, 13:45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicz
They did their jobs, plain and simple!

Imagine the outcry if it was a 'device' and they had ignored it to the dertriment of a plane full of passengers. Some people clearly need to think before they type.

Yes. You. There are hundreds of ways terrorists can do their job. They don't need to smuggle bombs onto planes, they've accomplished their jobs by getting us all to waste hours of our time in airport security every single time we fly, not to mention 20-50 quid.
Quote completemadness 16th March 2008, 20:38
Quote:
Originally Posted by theevilelephant
well after security you can buy razor blades (could make a knife), alchohol and paper = fire, and im sure if you know more about chemistry than me there are hundreds more possibilities.....


p.s. i havent over thought this.... well it was a long flight from uk to NZ
Someone skilled enough can easily kill with just a newspaper

But yes, there are hundreds of things you can take on a flight that are deadly, its about minimising risk though

Quite frankly though, in this case, if they weren't sure they could have just turned it on to start with (well got him to)
Quote Nexxo 16th March 2008, 21:12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicz
They did their jobs, plain and simple!

Imagine the outcry if it was a 'device' and they had ignored it to the dertriment of a plane full of passengers. Some people clearly need to think before they type.
Yes, you (to quote Spec). It does not reassure me that the people who are supposed to be in charge of our safety operate on naive notions that come from cheap spy thriller movies. You cannot make a viable explosive from mixing two bottles of liquid (under conditions found in a plane toilet, no less). You cannot hide sufficient explosives to take down a plane in a laptop or the sole of a shoe.

What security do we get? FBI surveying Mosques with Geiger counters. Looking for Iranian terrorists by checking who buys the most Tahini at their grocery store. They are now looking for "suspicious behaviour" in World of Warcraft. And that is just a few examples. Seems to me, the only people dumber than terrorists are the people trying to catch them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by specofdust
Yes. You. There are hundreds of ways terrorists can do their job. They don't need to smuggle bombs onto planes, they've accomplished their jobs by getting us all to waste hours of our time in airport security every single time we fly, not to mention 20-50 quid.
QFT.
Quote specofdust 16th March 2008, 21:18
Interestingly, my college recently had reason to buy somewhere in the region of 20-30Kg of cornflour. We're yet to get a visit from the authorities which is kinda surprising and I guess comforting. I'd have thought that ordering crates of the stuff online and then cleaning out every supermarket in town of cornflour alone would arouse some suspicions.
Quote Smilodon 16th March 2008, 22:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
I personally find the mac air to be a over prices and pointless, I mean really $1800us for something that has hardware equal to that of a $500-600 laptop, all so you can say, OH LOOK HOW THIN IT IS, for $1800 I would buy that Sony thats made out of carbon composite that only weighs slightly more and comes with an optical drive and 250gb versus 80gb hard drive and higher end specs and is only a little over twice the height of the air when closed. If I wanted something for internet only (primarily) I would get the new upcoming EeePC with the larger screen or HP upcoming 2133 both at around $699 that have the same functionality as that Air and weight less lol.

As you can tell Im a function over form person lol

I agree. a thin laptop doesn't make it more portable. A smaller screen would have a much bigger effect on portability IMO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by theevilelephant
well after security you can buy razor blades (could make a knife), alchohol and paper = fire, and im sure if you know more about chemistry than me there are hundreds more possibilities.....


p.s. i havent over thought this.... well it was a long flight from uk to NZ

I could start a fire with only my cellphone if I really wanted to. Making hell on board a plane isn't really difficult if one have a bit of imagination. I'm sure someone could probably kill the pilot(s) with their bare hands if they really want to. But let's face it, a car bomb or something would probably be easier and more effective anyway.
Quote DXR_13KE 17th March 2008, 11:16
Quote:

what the hell?
Quote Nexxo 30th March 2008, 17:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
I personally find the mac air to be a over prices and pointless, I mean really $1800us for something that has hardware equal to that of a $500-600 laptop, all so you can say, OH LOOK HOW THIN IT IS, for $1800 I would buy that Sony thats made out of carbon composite that only weighs slightly more and comes with an optical drive and 250gb versus 80gb hard drive and higher end specs and is only a little over twice the height of the air when closed. If I wanted something for internet only (primarily) I would get the new upcoming EeePC with the larger screen or HP upcoming 2133 both at around $699 that have the same functionality as that Air and weight less lol.

As you can tell Im a function over form person lol

Hey, don't knock the Macbook. Just look at its interface compatibility:

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-graphs-id4-macbooks-alien-motherships.gif
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