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Microsoft launches 2008 server lineup

Microsoft launches 2008 server lineup

Microsoft encourages you to become a 'hero' by attending launch events. Pass the barf bag, please.

Yesterday saw Microsoft launch their next-generation server products at an event in Los Angeles, and there's some all-too-predictable 'features' they wanted to talk about.

The products officially launched at the event are Windows Server 2008 – a replacement for the current Windows Server 2003 R2 – along with SQL Server 2008 and Visual Studio 2008 for all the application developers out there. Windows Server and Visual Studio are available real-soon-now, but SQL Server – despite being a large part of the event – won't actually be ready until the second half of this year.

Obviously, Microsoft are keen to get people interested in Vista – businesses especially. As a result, one of the main 'features' of this latest release of the Windows Server product the company is pushing is its Vista compliance. Those who like their servers to require less than eight gigs of RAM will be displeased to hear Bob Muglia, senior vice president of the Server and Tools Business side of Microsoft, explain that the company is “building the products off the same code base” as Windows Vista. Muglia tried to make this sound a helpful thing to do by saying “[the] real benefit of this for customers is that it makes it simpler for us to maintain and drive the systems forward as we learn about security issues.

No, Bob: making it easier to do your job is good for you, not your customers.

That said, there are some rather nice changes to the default security model for Windows Server that shows Microsoft might actually be learning from their competitors for a change: Muglia describes an “enormous amount of work” that has gone into improved security, with a default-off approach to background services ensuring that ports are only ever opened as “roles are installed on a machine.”

Anyone who has noticed a certain amount of flakiness in Microsoft services recently may want to avoid the launch version of Windows Server: Muglia explains that “Microsoft.com is running entirely on Windows Server 2008 right now,” a worrying admission in times when many Microsoft services are suffering outages. Still, perhaps that's a coincidence.

The event was rather low on hard details about any of the products, although Microsoft has managed to take the time to offer some information on its website about each of the three products.

Do you know of anywhere planning to migrate to any of Microsoft's new server products, or do you predict as slow an uptake for Windows Server as has happened to the desktop OS on which it's based? Share your thoughts over in the forums.

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UncertainGod 28th February 2008, 14:27 Quote
They haven't really launched much though, Everybody has been able to use Visual Studio since November, SQL server isn't finished yet and windows server isn't feature complete yet.
Redbeaver 28th February 2008, 15:19 Quote
ill put server 2008 in my office when if i ask people about Vista, they replied "Vista? that's so old!".
SlickGnome 28th February 2008, 15:22 Quote
I have the full release of Server 2008 downloading as I type this and will be running on a test system at home for the time being, Once I figure out if I like the changes and if it is as secure as they say it is, I'll probably start upgrading some of my servers to it at work, but I don't see that being at least until SP1 is released for it (No microsoft OS has ever been worth a damn until at least SP1)
WildTangent 28th February 2008, 15:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by SlickGnome
I have the full release of Server 2008 downloading as I type this and will be running on a test system at home for the time being, Once I figure out if I like the changes and if it is as secure as they say it is, I'll probably start upgrading some of my servers to it at work, but I don't see that being at least until SP1 is released for it (No microsoft OS has ever been worth a damn until at least SP1)

Server 2008 has SP1 included with it. I'll wait for SP2.
Mattt 28th February 2008, 15:56 Quote
Got to see it early feb at a one of our supplyers convention.

It looked pritty good to me. the core vertions look excellent no UI clogging up the place and ability to install only the bare minimum required for a servers use. it looks like it has the ability to run on older hardware then 2003 which is nice if you want a new OS but not new hardware.

very fast install, the guy demoing kicked off and spoke for a few mins and it was done.

very well intergrated with regards to VM solutions out there.

There new security features look pritty good, nothing that you can't do via group policies in AD currently but nice management console and looks alot easyer to setup then GP's

as for what the post said about pushing for vista yes they are defo. however all will be backward compalible with XP sp2.
Firehed 28th February 2008, 15:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by WildTangent
Server 2008 has SP1 included with it. I'll wait for SP2.
Huh? How on earth could a product that's five minutes old already have a service pack applied? Surely the fixes of Vista SP1 are applied, but that doesn't make it Server 2008 SP1. Or I shouldn't think so anyways. Microsoft and their naming schemes...

Sucks for me though, because now all of my customers at work are probably going to be bugging me about this constantly. Luckily I'm in sales now rather than support so it won't be as bad, but I'm sure I'll get plenty of stupid questions from people wondering how we haven't tested our product on Server and SQL server 08 for the last year and a half.
hawky84 28th February 2008, 16:28 Quote
The best thing for myself is Studio 2008 or more inportantly Team System 2008, it has such an improved merge tool for forward and reverse integrations in Team Foundation Server, not to mention queuing of Team Builds and better work item processes.
Lazlow 28th February 2008, 19:09 Quote
I've been using the pre-release for a few months and have found it to be a nice upgrade from 2003. I think we're going to be rolling it out on some web development servers at work soon - as IIS7 is good improvement over 6.
Hamish 28th February 2008, 23:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lazlow
I think we're going to be rolling it out on some web development servers at work soon - as IIS7 is good improvement over 6.
yea i hope to be able to do this soon too, if just for being able to duplicate IIS configs across multiple servers so much more easily
rjkoneill 29th February 2008, 11:25 Quote
i tried it at a conference
it seems a little cleaner than 2k3
less like a desktop os and more like a server os

i like it but will not invest until budget permits in the new financial year maybe
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