Radeon X1950GT might be great value for gamers with 1280x1024 TFTs.  It's unclear which regions will see stock, though.

Radeon X1950GT might be great value for gamers with 1280x1024 TFTs. It's unclear which regions will see stock, though.

According to a report on HKEPC, AMD is readying another new DirectX 9-based Radeon X1000-series card under the guise of Radeon X1950GT.

The X1950GT will use the same 80-nanometre RV570 chip used on the company's popular Radeon X1950 Pro card that trumped NVIDIA's GeForce 7900 GS in a rather comprehensive fashion.

Radeon X1950GT will carry the same internal pipeline structure as the Radeon X1950 Pro, meaning 36 pixel shader processors, 8 vertex shaders, 12 ROPs and support for native CrossFire.

The key differences for gamers are that clock speeds have been reduced - these are believed to be set at 500MHz core and 1200MHz memory. In addition, VIVO support will be disabled too, meaning that you'll only get support for a standard selection of video out features.

Based on that information, we suggest that this new addition to the X1950 family is manufactured using RV570 GPUs that didn't pass certification for the Radeon X1950 Pro clock speeds, and is a popular way for graphics manufacturers to get rid of otherwise unusable inventory.

HKEPC also claims that the Radeon X1950GT will be launched in a similar fashion to the way that Radeon X1900GT was launched in May 2006. Only certain partners will carry the product in certain regions - there's no clear timeline on how long these restrictions will be in place, though. The other thing that is unclear is the expected retail pricing of the new part. Given that the Radeon X1950 Pro sells for around £130 including VAT, we can expect Radeon X1950GT to be sold for less than that if it shows up at UK retailers.
Quote DougEdey 5th January 2007, 12:28
Unless it sells for <£90 it won't be worthwhile, the £40 difference isn't too big for the additions in my view.

Shame though, you can see why AMD have done it but it's just overcrowding their own market area!
Quote M4RTIN 5th January 2007, 12:33
whats the point. youd be a fool to go for that over the pro, and its just going to confuse people with the x1900gt as its quite different
Quote Tim S 5th January 2007, 12:38
£90 is 44% less than £130 - that's a massive difference. I think you're more likely to see it at about £100-110 but nearer to the higher end of that price bracket, realistically speaking.
Quote mclean007 5th January 2007, 13:18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
£90 is 44% less than £130 - that's a massive difference. I think you're more likely to see it at about £100-110 but nearer to the higher end of that price bracket, realistically speaking.
Actually I make it just over 30% less (£130 * (100% - 30%) = £130 * 0.7 = £91) unless I'm missing something? - still a pretty big difference though.
Quote DeX 5th January 2007, 13:34
Will this be the first card released under the AMD brand?
Quote Tim S 5th January 2007, 13:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclean007
Actually I make it just over 30% less (£130 * (100% - 30%) = £130 * 0.7 = £91) unless I'm missing something? - still a pretty big difference though.
Yes, I've done the calculation the wrong way round - 130 is 44% more than 90. Whoops. :o
Quote DougEdey 5th January 2007, 13:38
I don't think it'll be worth the price drop though, if anyone asks for a reccomendation on here for which card to go for I doubt anyone would sensibly reccomend the GT if they can scrape a bit and get the PRO
Quote Tim S 5th January 2007, 13:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougEdey
I don't think it'll be worth the price drop though, if anyone asks for a reccomendation on here for which card to go for I doubt anyone would sensibly reccomend the GT if they can scrape a bit and get the PRO
Absolutely, the price difference is likely to be a decent night out at the student's union. :)
Quote DougEdey 5th January 2007, 13:55
I'm sure even us students can bare one night in for the difference

And if you goto a really cheap Uni (Teesside) that £20 can last for 2 night (BOGOF pints at £1)
Quote DXR_13KE 5th January 2007, 15:46
what is the point with DX10 cards just around the corner?

5 beers at 3 euros here in a student party.... :D and beer is GOOD!!!!!!
Quote Tim S 5th January 2007, 16:15
Quote:
Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
what is the point with DX10 cards just around the corner?
you've been saying that since August - mid range cards are still a quarter away IMO. :p
Quote Tyinsar 5th January 2007, 16:25
I just wish AMD & Nvidia would agree on GT, XT, ... why is an Nvidia GT better than an XT but it's the opposite for AMD? Frankly I think these naming systems are ridiculous.
Quote DeX 5th January 2007, 16:44
I didn't think nVidia had an XT suffix. Maybe I've wrong. Anyway, I agree it's all very confusing. I more or less have a grasp of the GTX > GT > GS thing that nVidia have but even between those classifications the distinction isn't clear cut. ATI's classifications seem even more complex but that might be just because I haven't followed their releases as closely.
Quote Lenny_Nero 6th January 2007, 00:09
I would have given < £100 for it as I have just got, what is a sort of close'ish card to it with a x1650XT (the 24 pipe one) at a few quid less than £80 quid.
I am not a gamer because there are no games that I like so its nice to have something there if I ever need it.
My plan is just to run another and crossfire it in a year or 2 depending on how things go, I still use a 9250 every day and its more than up to the job.
Quote Tyinsar 6th January 2007, 00:24
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeX
I didn't think nVidia had an XT suffix. Maybe I've wrong. Anyway, I agree it's all very confusing. I more or less have a grasp of the GTX > GT > GS thing that nVidia have but even between those classifications the distinction isn't clear cut. ATI's classifications seem even more complex but that might be just because I haven't followed their releases as closely.
Look Here so for Nvidia: GTX > GT > GS > XT

Edit: And lets not forget the no suffix (vanilla) versions and the awful LE
Quote mattthegamer463 6th January 2007, 17:23
Looks good, but why so close to the release of their DX10 line? BTW quick question when is that release planned for? I'm building a new rig in february/march and I'm really not hoping to have to go with nvidia.
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