What is actually going through this woman's mind? Has she just found out she's getting a Zune for Christmas?

What is actually going through this woman's mind? Has she just found out she's getting a Zune for Christmas?

A blog written by Mary Jo Foley over on ZD Net, is reporting that Microsoft's Zune MP3 player is currently incompatible with Windows Vista.

The reason for this unbelievable move is apparently Microsoft's desire to get the product out in time for the Christmas rush. Apple Insider is obviously revelling in the situation and has posted a picture (which you can see to the right) of the Zune's aborted installation. What will really tickle you is the woman in the background who will be the face of all Zune installations. Look closer and you'll probably end up as confused as us; is that her letting out a yelp of pleasure or is she distraught by the pair of lovers snogging right next to her? Either way it's all a bit mental.

Microsoft supporters will reply to this fiasco saying that Vista isn't even out yet. They are, of course, right - but the point remains, why is Microsoft releasing an operating system that doesn't work with one of their headline products straight away?

It's not all bad news for Vista though. The Inquirer is reporting that some hardware manufacturers are releasing 256MB PCI graphics cards that will allow users running old motherboards to use Vista with all the fancy interface graphics turned on. Diamond Multimedia's Viper X1300 PCI has both 256MB and Direct X 9.0 compatible, allowing you to run Vista with the nice Aero graphics turned on even if your PC is a relative dinosaur

Has Microsoft let off a massive guff? Discuss in the forums.
Quote M4RTIN 15th November 2006, 13:07
vista is only a test version. this isnt a major problem, plus i cant buy the zune anyway.. damn microsoft.. :(
Quote quack 15th November 2006, 13:20
A test version? What do you mean?
Quote M4RTIN 15th November 2006, 13:21
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Originally Posted by quack
A test version? What do you mean?

well you cant walk into a shop and buy it, its a pre-release public test version
Quote kempez 15th November 2006, 13:21
LOL

Zune is a waste of money imo (so no flaming ;)) but MS should really have checked this :p
Quote sadffffff 15th November 2006, 17:06
muckraking from apple fanboys.
Quote Lazarus Dark 15th November 2006, 17:51
pfftttthahaha. the picture.... the incompatibility... dropping playsforsure... and vista offers nothing over xp other than directx10. why am I supposed to buy the 400$ os again? oh yea. its got purdy windows.
Quote mikeuk2004 15th November 2006, 20:02
lol
Quote EK-MDi 15th November 2006, 21:38
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LOL. I couldn't believe it myself either when I first saw that. Is that picture really what we think it is?
Quote BurningFeetMan 15th November 2006, 22:40
I'm not particularly interested in either the Zune or an Ipod.

When I'm in the market for a portable media player, I'll be purchasing a piece of hardware that will play every piece of media I throw at it, with minimum security fuss and maximum file and user flexibility. Something on par with the average USB stick. Plug it in, move files, unplug, play files. No drivers needed, or custom installation required. No ********, just pure simplicity.

That said, second thing to look out for would be sound quality, and third would be battery life.
Quote MeTaLliC 15th November 2006, 22:48
http://www.bit-tech.net/news_images/Zune_incompatible_with_Vista/article_img.jpg

Thats two chicks getting it on

Good one Microsoft ;)
Quote Tyinsar 16th November 2006, 06:32
:? Who @ M$ chose and approved that pic?

When you reported that "Zune doesn't play for sure" I never dreamed that would extend to Vista.

:) From the product description for the "Diamond Viper ATI X1300 PCI 256MB Video Card":
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... the most affordable graphics card to combine high-end features like CrossFire multi-GPU capability ...
(Note to Amazon: cut & paste is great but so is proofreading.) I should buy one two and put it them on my K6/3+ :D
Quote dire_wolf 16th November 2006, 07:56
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Originally Posted by BurningFeetMan
/snip

That'll be an iriver then?
Quote Risky 16th November 2006, 08:46
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Originally Posted by dire_wolf
That'll be an iriver then?

Or iAudio from Cowon. My player is an X5. It appears as a usb hard drive in Windows. Drag, drop and done. And plays Ogg, Flac as well as the rest.

I don't see the need to be tied in to some DRM-infested online music store. Buying a CD is better value and you get to choose your audio format and have the disk as backup etc.
Quote Iago 16th November 2006, 10:47
It's even worse...

The Zune doesn't install properly in many XP systems:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/installing-the-zune-sucked/
Quote Bursar 16th November 2006, 11:09
So a brand new bit of hardware doesn't work out of the box on a beta release of an OS? Must have been a slow news day.
Quote DougEdey 16th November 2006, 11:21
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Originally Posted by Bursar
So a brand new bit of hardware doesn't work out of the box on a beta release of an OS? Must have been a slow news day.

The real news is what was linked to from Engadget, after a fairly enjoyable read all I can say is that Microsoft's department that does their testing (if they have one) are atrocious.
Quote Bursar 16th November 2006, 11:43
It's not like iTunes has been any better. I remember having all sorts of problems trying to get my iPod connected up first time.

And like iTunes, I'm sure the Zune software will improve as newer versions are released.
Quote Iago 16th November 2006, 12:01
It keeps getting worse...the net is full of reviews where the Zune crashed when installing...

http://faruk.newsvine.com/_news/2006/11/12/438632-zune-install-screen-raises-eyebrows
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/zune.ars

The guys at ars are very generous though. The WiFi in it's current inception is totally useless and the player failed to sync the reviewers music library and it still gets a 7.

If 2 of your major selling points fail or are seen as irrelevant on launch day, the initial impression you are giving is going to be bad. Apple could live through it when launching iPods, as there were no entrenched and dominant mp3 players back then. But today, if you want to go for iPod's throat, you have to do much, much better than this.
Quote quack 16th November 2006, 22:23
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Originally Posted by M4RTIN
well you cant walk into a shop and buy it, its a pre-release public test version
So? Vista is available through various methods already. I'm sure ZD Net can get their hands on an RTM copy to test. Even if they didn't use RTM to test it, I'm sure it doesn't work on that either.

It doesn't work on RTM. There is, however, a patch already - which hasn't been released yet.
Quote Cthippo 18th November 2006, 00:15
More to the point, there will be no more changes to Vista, except security fixes, until SP1 comes out (next week at this rate). Just because you can't buy it now doesn't mean that when you can buy it it will be any different.
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