AMD to launch 65nm Athlon 64 X2's next month?

Author: Tim Smalley
Published: 27th November 2006
Comments (26) Stumble
AMD to launch 65nm Athlon 64 X2's next month?

AMD is expected to announce four 65nm Athlon 64 X2 processors that should help to alleviate its CPU shortage.

A report in Chinese newspaper Commerical Times, cited by Digitimes, suggests that AMD will roll out four new 65-nanometre processors a week on Tuesday.

The report says that AMD has bought the launch of its 65-nanometre Brisbane processor forwards to December 5th in order to alleviate the shortage that is said to be caused by Dell's processor allocation demands. On Friday, we reported that AMD's supply issues should ease towards the end of the month, but we didn't anticipate this news.

Originally, reports suggested that AMD's 65-nanometre roll out may not happen until Q1 2007. However, AMD will announce four dual-core processors based on the Brisbane, ranging from the 2.1GHz X2 4000+ to the 2.6GHz X2 5000+ - all four chips will have 1MB of L2 cache (512KB per core) and a TDP of 65W.

The Register suggests that AMD will launch more 65-nanometre Brisbane processors in Q2 2007; namely, the X2 5200+ (65W TDP) and 5400+ (76W TDP) clocked at 2.7GHz and 2.8GHz respectively.

Following that, there will be three 35W "energy efficient" 65-nanometre processors - the X2 3800+, X2 4000+ and X2 4200+ with clock speeds ranging from 2.0GHz to 2.2GHz. All of these chips will have 512KB of L2 cache per core, just like the chips launching on December 5th. Finally, AMD is expected to release a 2.3GHz X2 4400+ in the third quarter of next year.
Quote bubsterboo 27th November 2006, 14:16
Will these all be the AM2 chips? Or will they maybe make some old 939s too?
Quote DougEdey 27th November 2006, 14:17
Mmmm, 65nm :P
Quote Tim S 27th November 2006, 14:27
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubsterboo
Will these all be the AM2 chips? Or will they maybe make some old 939s too?
All socket AM2
Quote kenco_uk 27th November 2006, 14:40
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Originally Posted by article

Finally, AMD is expected to release a 2.3GHz X2 4400+ in the third quarter of next year.

Eh? Not only will it be a little bit late to the party, the other partygoers will be claiming their pensions :)
Quote Mother-Goose 27th November 2006, 15:06
argh, hurry up with the stinking quad core already!!!
Quote Tyinsar 27th November 2006, 15:34
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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser
argh, hurry up with the stinking quad core already!!!
Seconded, though I'm glad they are doing something
Quote Mother-Goose 27th November 2006, 15:41
True, BUT, nothing to combat the C2D, this certainly is not at any stretch of the imagination.
Quote Mr T 27th November 2006, 15:56
Will these be any faster than the current chips available? Or just cooler running?
Quote Nature 27th November 2006, 16:23
This is ludacris, chips seperated by 100 mhz that is. Intel is applying more logic to their line up by seperating the up and coming core2duo's by 300 mhz. AMD is all over the place with this 4200 -5200 - fx crap. They need to hire me or Mr. T to put the smack down on their marketing department....

Tacos
Quote Tyinsar 27th November 2006, 16:58
Well, there was a hint at a 5400+. With a die shrink the first step is often not a whole lot of faster chips but a few at current speeds. The next step though... :)
Quote M4RTIN 27th November 2006, 17:06
is there any reason behind amd's desktop naming logic any more?. . they should changed over the way mobile processors are categorized. so you would have a letter for either single or dual core, another for the level of cache the the actual mhz as numbers..

so for example.

SA24
DB18

S being single core, D being dual. A being512k cahce, B is 1mb. the numbers obviously are self explanatory. 24 is 2400mhz.
Quote DXR_13KE 27th November 2006, 17:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser
argh, hurry up with the stinking quad core already!!!

thirded
Quote frodo 27th November 2006, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser
argh, hurry up with the stinking quad core already!!!

fourthed

will these new 65nm's be any quicker than the equivalent 90nm or just just run cooler?
Quote DougEdey 27th November 2006, 19:20
Just run cooler.
Quote frodo 27th November 2006, 19:22
so would be little point me going amd65 vs conroe then... bah... i want amd to come back :(
Quote perplekks45 27th November 2006, 20:15
When I first read the headline I thought: "Finally an ADM answer to C2D!" Then I read the story behind it and was left kinda frustrated.
Yea, it's nice to have them run cooler and maybe you'll have a bit more room to overclock them now (even though only time will tell if they o/c as well as C2D) but what is the point in throwing another 'last generation' chip on the market that obviously wants next-generation (C2D-equal) chips?
I plan buying a new PC in January and I hoped AMD would have something nice for me... don't think so at the moment. R600 maybe... ;)
Quote Lazlow 27th November 2006, 20:30
So... they're bringing back the X2 4000, but it'll be clocked at 2.1GHz with 512KB L2 Cache per core? Whereas the original was 2.0GHz with 1MB L2 Cache per core - confused? I am.
Quote speedfreek 27th November 2006, 21:28
I still would want the 1mb L2 for each core, call me fussy and illogical but I want it. At least they will be more efficient running and probably have a little more overclocking potental but they dont have anything out to top intel.
Quote Mother-Goose 28th November 2006, 09:22
AMD have lost the plot somewhat I think.
Quote Iago 28th November 2006, 09:37
Bear in mind that this isn't a move to reclaim any throne, not increase AMD's fans ePenis that don't have a Core "eRoccoSiffredi" 2 Duo ;). The 65nm move will be great for AMD because it will alleviate their problem they have providing chips to vendors.

AMD's CPUs are still selling like hotcakes. Perhaps not to enthusiasts, but really, the enthusiast market isn't the biggest. The Dell deal, low prices and mind share AMD won during the "Athlon vs P4" days mean that despite any C2D performance advantage, AMD is still selling every single chip they can make and then some more.

Moving to 65nm = more chips per wafer = more inventory to sell = better revenue = more money to invest on R&D = new toys (wich in the end, is all we care about :P ).
Quote Mother-Goose 28th November 2006, 10:15
It is a fair point, the quady will have to be on 65nm so at least they will have got used to working on it.

That said, how long does it bloody take to design a native quad?? It is almost as if the R&D has been slowed so the supply to dell can be matched. GAY!
Quote brumster 29th November 2006, 22:19
When I come to upgrade my S939 opty, unless I stick with processors that have been available for some time, it will also mean a mobo/ram upgrade. The likelihood of my choosing any AM2 over a C2D is practically nil due to the performance per pound. If new chips were released in S939 too AMD would have a whole lot better chance of keeping my custom (in this currently Intel dominated market).
In fact wont somebody think of the children and formalise a semi-permanent socket design? :(
Quote frodo 29th November 2006, 23:43
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Originally Posted by brumster
When I come to upgrade my S939 opty, unless I stick with processors that have been available for some time, it will also mean a mobo/ram upgrade. The likelihood of my choosing any AM2 over a C2D is practically nil due to the performance per pound. If new chips were released in S939 too AMD would have a whole lot better chance of keeping my custom (in this currently Intel dominated market).
In fact wont somebody think of the children and formalise a semi-permanent socket design? :(

couldnt agree more tbh

at the moment i kepe getting tempted by the new core2 stuff, but then realise, do i really need it? well, i can play all the games i want to play @ 1920x1200 maxxed out, therefore im happy :S so i dont need to spend the monies

but one thing i would like is a nice x2, 939, for this, but oww no they havent dropped there prices... am2 x2 is cheaper than 939 x2 :@ GAH STUPID AMD
Quote Cthippo 30th November 2006, 07:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by brumster
When I come to upgrade my S939 opty, unless I stick with processors that have been available for some time, it will also mean a mobo/ram upgrade. The likelihood of my choosing any AM2 over a C2D is practically nil due to the performance per pound. If new chips were released in S939 too AMD would have a whole lot better chance of keeping my custom (in this currently Intel dominated market).
In fact wont somebody think of the children and formalise a semi-permanent socket design? :(

Opterons, or at least 2xx series are socket 940, and as far as I know the old Opteron 940 socket isn't being changed. You might need a new mobo, but AFAIK AM2 is not coming to the Optys
Quote Mother-Goose 30th November 2006, 08:57
the X2 AMD is no match for the C2D though right? Just so I am not gettin confused.
Quote frodo 30th November 2006, 16:56
the c2d wipes the floor with any (be it am2 or 939) x2...

painful but true :( bah

...ill just chose who's best when its my time to buy (a month or so after x-mas)
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