Bethesda: Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion

Author: Joe Martin
Published: 6th August 2008
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Bethesda: Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion

Sure, Fallout 3 may be better than Oblivion - but it's also messier!

Bethesda's Pete Hines has been on the interview circuit lately and while we're still in the process of typing up our four-page interview with the RPG mogul, that hasn't slowed Pete down at all. In fact, he's been so busy hyping up Fallout 3 that he even says it's better than Bethesda's last game - Oblivion.

Speaking to Videogamer, Pete said that there was no doubt in his mind that the latest game to come from the creators of The Elder Scrolls series was far and away better than Oblivion.

"I have no doubts in my mind that, at its core and for everything that it provides that Fallout is a better game than Oblivion was. For sure...I don’t have any doubts that on the whole, and I think this is a belief universally shared on the team that Fallout is a better game," said Pete.

A lot of that has probably got to do with the feedback the team got for certain controversial elements of Oblivion, such as the world-levelling feature which promised players a perpetual, but bland feeling of being challenged. A lot of these elements have now been fixed thankfully and, as we found out in our hands-on with Fallout 3 last week, the game is now a lot more varied in the challenges it offers.

That isn't to say that Fallout 3 is without issues though and we're sure that hardcore fans will have more than enough things to moan about when the game gets release later this year on the Xbox 360, PC and PlayStation 3.

What do you reckon of the way the game is shaping up? Take a look at our hands-on and then let us know what you think in the forums.
Quote Lepermessiah 6th August 2008, 13:37
That is not much of an accomplishment, as Oblivion is one of the most overhyped, overrated RPG/Game ever. never played such a game so hyped that lacked so much depth and was so bland in my life.

it blows my mind now reviewers mention how broken oblivion really was, but when it was relewaed they glossed over it. Oblivion was NOT a good RPG at all. Terrible dialog, lack of need to explore (Loot and monster leveling), no choices, terrible speech mini-game, etc......
Quote Timmy_the_tortoise 6th August 2008, 13:51
I'm looking more towards STALKER Clear Sky for my Post-Apocalyptic FPS-RPG fix. That's what I think of Fallout.
Quote TreeDude 6th August 2008, 13:56
I quite liked Oblivion. I will admit the variable difficulty kept the game from ever being really challenging. But it was fun other than that. But then again I loved Morrowind too. I guess it is one of those love/hate types of games. It is a game that begs to be turned into an MMO though. They would make a killing.

I am excited for Fallout 3. But I have not played the other 2. I feel like fans of the originals are going to be let down by the changes.
Quote bowman 6th August 2008, 14:02
I'm buying Stalker Clear Sky.. I'm not buying F3. Mangled IP from the same people who mangled their _own_ franchise? No thanks.
Quote krypt1k 6th August 2008, 14:14
Swing and a miss. Fallout 3 doesn't need to be better than Oblivion. It needs to be better than Fallout 2.
Quote wuyanxu 6th August 2008, 14:27
improve some of the textures on the E3 demo and then we'll see.
Quote Yemerich 6th August 2008, 14:39
Oblivion was an "OK" game, it is FO3 obligation to be better than TES IV. It is one of the best franchises out there, so, unlikely most of the movies, it needs to be better than its predessors.

With this much hype going arround FO3, it needs to be one of the best games until now!

I am not too excited with FO3, but even being more excited with the new STALKER, i will give FO3 a try. Mostly because i am a HUGE fan of the series. After that i'll post my impressions in here. I really hope they don't mess with my baby!
Quote banshee256 6th August 2008, 15:06
It's funny... When I posted on Bethsoft's own boards, I was told that they would compare Fallout 3 with Oblivion, since it's 2 very different games. 4 months later and they're doing it themselves. And then the games are not so different after all. Action > depth, graphics > gameplay and that insane idea that leveled monsters/badguys/zones in any shape or form is a good thing.

No matter how good reviews this game is going to get and no matter how many rewards it's going to win (going to be a lot, I guess), I'm not gonna buy for at least 6 months after release, after checking various people's opinions.
Quote yakyb 6th August 2008, 15:44
i agree i very much doubt im going to get this i have just bought diablo 2 again /hack /chop /hack /openCrate
Quote Lepermessiah 6th August 2008, 16:10
Clear sky is going to own F#, and most games of 08, unfortunately the "Biased console centric sites and media", won't give it the credit it will deserve, they need to keep that advertising money coming from the big console makers and publishers.
Quote Lepermessiah 6th August 2008, 16:11
I meant Fallout 3 in post above, lol.
Quote Almightyrastus 6th August 2008, 16:39
I have to say I am looking forward to this, I thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion especially the freeform exploration nature of it. Sure the world levelling did make things seem a little bland, there wasn't anywhere which had the reputation of 'eek, better wait until I level a fair bit before I go in there' but in truth I wasn't playing it for a difficult challenge, I was playing as an explorer and shiny things collector (and later on, a rooftop dwelling assassin) and I suspect I will be playing FO3 in exactly the same way.

Picked up a copy of the 3 in 1 pack of FO, FO2 and FO tactics so I could get up to date on what's what, sure they may be dated now but they should be fun nonetheless.
Quote Thacrudd 6th August 2008, 16:49
I don't have a doubt in my mind that FO3 will be better than Oblivion. BUT FO3 better be just a tasty appitizer before the next Elder Scrolls installment. I loved Oblivion and really enjoyed the exploration and interactivity of the game, and I'm sure the next one will just blow the socks off everything else. If I had to choose between a new Elder Scrolls and FO3, bring on the Skooma baby and hand me my mage's staff :D
Quote Cadillac Ferd 6th August 2008, 17:55
I was so amped for Oblivion and honestly I never felt let down, I'm not sure why everyone else in the world apparently feels like it was "overhyped" or a let down. I've played Oblivion to death and I still have fun with it. The whole auto-leveling things just makes it so you have to actually keep trying a bit, whats so wrong with that?

Come on now people, as tough as it is for anyone to admit it making games is a business. There's no way anyone could make a game that played exactly like the previous Fallouts (isometric view, turn-based RPG) and expect to make a decent amount of money off of it. Can't we all just be happy that someone is even making another game in the Fallout universe and agree to not knock it till we've tried it?
Quote Cupboard 6th August 2008, 18:51
I enjoyed Oblivion though the monstors leveling with me never really worked too well, early on they were challenging but fun but once I had Umbra and my awesome armour (85% through using Sigil stones to enchant basic clothes then 3% damage and spell resist and 60% chameleon) none of the enemies were too much of a challenge.

So anyway, if Fallout 3 is better, then brilliant imo. I never played any of the previous ones so I don't know what I will be missing out on anyway.
Quote dyzophoria 6th August 2008, 19:05
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Originally Posted by krypt1k
Swing and a miss. Fallout 3 doesn't need to be better than Oblivion. It needs to be better than Fallout 2.


totally agree with this one imho.
Quote Bungle 6th August 2008, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Cadillac Ferd
Can't we all just be happy that someone is even making another game in the Fallout universe and agree to not knock it till we've tried it?
But writing off a game before it's released makes you look cool.;) Nothing wrong IMO about oblivion, the quest line had plenty of variety for the different classes. The "leveling up" system was an excellent idea whereby you gain levels in the skills your using. The auto level for the monsters did suck and got a bit annoying in parts. Story wise I really enjoyed Oblivion. Having Sean Bean and Patrick Steward as voices for the key characters in the game made it that little bit special I thought.
If fallout 3 can take the good bits from Oblivion and keep some of the humour from the previous fallout titles, I'll be one satisfied customer.:D
Quote Vash-HT 6th August 2008, 22:20
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Originally Posted by Cadillac Ferd
I was so amped for Oblivion and honestly I never felt let down, I'm not sure why everyone else in the world apparently feels like it was "overhyped" or a let down. I've played Oblivion to death and I still have fun with it. The whole auto-leveling things just makes it so you have to actually keep trying a bit, whats so wrong with that?

Come on now people, as tough as it is for anyone to admit it making games is a business. There's no way anyone could make a game that played exactly like the previous Fallouts (isometric view, turn-based RPG) and expect to make a decent amount of money off of it. Can't we all just be happy that someone is even making another game in the Fallout universe and agree to not knock it till we've tried it?

Actually, I wager if they made it isometric and turn based people would still buy it, hell if they did that I would be happy as hell. I don't care what other people say, the turn-based combat in FO1 and 2 was damn fun. There are still strong strategy RPG's made today, I don't understand why everything has to be a real time fast paced action game. Also, as I've said before, making a game shouldn't be about making money first and foremost. I doubt Bethedsa is looking at FO3 and going, "What can we do to make the most money with this?" I mean they have rights to one of the best IP's ever, I'm pretty sure they're trying hard as hell to make it a worthy sequel and a good game, not worrying about making money off it.

The combat was actually the only thing I hated in Oblivion, it absolutely sucked. I still enjoyed the game, but the repetitive boring combat did nothing for me.
Quote Shadowed_fury 6th August 2008, 23:05
Err, as if they are gonna say it isn't gonna be better.... they would say that!
Quote Leitchy 7th August 2008, 09:45
Oblivion wasted about 100 hours of my life, I'd say that's good value for money. Fallout 3 looks good so far though!
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