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New 2K Studio formed for BioShock 2

New 2K Studio formed for BioShock 2

It's double whammy time: Not only is BioShock 2 in the pipeline, but so is a new X-Com game!

BioShock was a great game, but it did have its flaws. The good news though is that those flaws will hopefully be ironed out soon - in the sequel!

Before you start OMGing and WTFing about the sheer possibility of a new BioShock game, there's something you should know.

According to industry insider Surfer Girl Reviews Star Wars and a job posting up on Gamasutra, the new game won't be headed up by Ken Levine, the man responsible for BioShock the first. Instead, it'll be made by a new 2K studio which is being founded specifically for the task.

The new studio, 2K Marin, is being founded by the remnants of the dev team from the first BioShock. Apparently, not many of the original staff wanted to work with Ken after BioShock.

"2K Boston is still recovering - a good chunk of the BioShock team did not want to work with Ken ever again, and 2K definitely understood the sentiment and let them set up a new studio so that they can make Bioshock 2, leaving Ken with Project X. A good chunk of the other senior 2K Boston people who were sick of Ken but didn't move to San Francisco ended up scattering to other AAA developers instead. In Quincy, they're essentially rebuilding a team from almost scratch again." Says Surfer Girl, who got tipped off by an anonymous source.

So, what is Ken Levine up to? Well, by the looks of it he's going to stay on in 2K Boston and is starting work on a new project called Project X which has been confirmed by some of the fleeing developers as being a new X-Com game.

Details beyond that are pretty scarce at the moment and it'll certainly be a while before we see anything come out of either studio, but until then you can always share your thoughts with us in the forums. You can also check out the new BioShock mod which we've featured in this month's Mod of the Month.

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DarkLord7854 30th November 2007, 09:38 Quote
I think I missed the whole story bout why people don't like Ken Levine hmm
Zurechial 30th November 2007, 10:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
I think I missed the whole story bout why people don't like Ken Levine hmm

Same here, anyone got any information on that?

The idea of a new X-Com is intriguing...as long as it doesn't end up being dumbed-down like seemingly everything else lately.

Not too excited by the idea of BioShock 2, I'm in the camp of heretics who weren't very impressed by BioShock.
Jinjue 30th November 2007, 10:26 Quote
How about....................



Now hear me out on this CURAAAZY idea........








GETTING BIOSHOCK 1 TO BLOODY WELL WORK!

3 Months now

THREE MONTHS I AND MANY MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A RESOLUTION TO THIS CRASHING PROBLEM.

AND WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING?

EH?

STARTING A NEW DICK OFFICE>........................ARAGHGGGGHFHFGGHGH!





</end of rantorama>

Andy
Gunsmith 30th November 2007, 10:46 Quote
it worked fine for me, my biggest gripe was the consolification of it
Zurechial 30th November 2007, 10:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gunsmith
it worked fine for me, my biggest gripe was the consolification of it

Definitely.

It wasn't the spiritual successor to System Shock, it was System Shock Lite™ for Joypads.

I'm cynical about it, I know, but BioShock was nothing more than an overhyped disappointment for me.
I guess it would have been too much to ask for a game that could live up to its predecessors from the glory days of the 90's and isn't watered-down (pun not intended) for the console market.

I'm really starting to sound like an anti-console forum-troll here, but I think my bitterness is understandable when considering Deus Ex vs Invisible War, Morrowind vs Oblivion, Fallout 2 vs Fallout 3, System Shock 2 vs BioShock, etc etc..

Someone please prove me wrong. :(
Bethesda and Eidos Montreal, I'm looking at you. I'm not hopeful, but I'm looking at you.
completemadness 30th November 2007, 11:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zurechial
Same here, anyone got any information on that?
so im not the only one
impar 30th November 2007, 11:22 Quote
Greetings!

Bioshock was the most overhyped PC game of 2007.
Had it came out now, with pretty much all the GOTY aspirants released, it wouldnt have the same impact.

As for X-COM, the last title worth playing was Terror from the Deep. New versions fail to provide the same atmosphere.
airchie 30th November 2007, 11:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by impar
As for X-COM, the last title worth playing was Terror from the Deep. New versions fail to provide the same atmosphere.
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I quite liked apocalypse but I still prefer TFTD and the original UFO.
UFO:Aftershock was quite fun too but still not as atmospheric as TFTD. :(

Still, we can live in hope.

As for Bioshock, I liked it but wasn't blown away by it.
Maybe my hopes were too high from reading all the reviews... :/

And is this Ken guy really such an asshole to work with??? :D
mikeuk2004 30th November 2007, 12:06 Quote
Whats up with Ken?? Bioshock was great and loved every moment of it, and I cant wait for a number 2 :)
VictorianBloke 30th November 2007, 12:21 Quote
I've still not managed to play the first Bioshock yet! Curse Virgin and their incompetent staff, my "pre" order was nearly 60 days late and I've not had the time since finally receiving a copy. I did enjoy the demo as brief as it was though.
CardJoe 30th November 2007, 12:52 Quote
I'm not sure why nobody wants to work with Ken either. Its probably either his ego or, that he pushes people too hard.
Crunch77 30th November 2007, 14:02 Quote
Also waiting to play Bioshock 1 when they fix the mouse problem.
impar 30th November 2007, 18:29 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Crunch77
Also waiting to play Bioshock 1 when they fix the mouse problem.
IF they fix it.
Managed to get to Fort Frolic before giving up on it.
knuck 30th November 2007, 20:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zurechial
Definitely.

It wasn't the spiritual successor to System Shock, it was System Shock Lite™ for Joypads.

I'm cynical about it, I know, but BioShock was nothing more than an overhyped disappointment for me.
I guess it would have been too much to ask for a game that could live up to its predecessors from the glory days of the 90's and isn't watered-down (pun not intended) for the console market.

I'm really starting to sound like an anti-console forum-troll here, but I think my bitterness is understandable when considering Deus Ex vs Invisible War, Morrowind vs Oblivion, Fallout 2 vs Fallout 3, System Shock 2 vs BioShock, etc etc..

Someone please prove me wrong. :(
Bethesda and Eidos Montreal, I'm looking at you. I'm not hopeful, but I'm looking at you.

I also sound like a console-hater troll these days ... and maybe i am ( :D )
I will say what's expected from me to say : add UT3 to that hist of yours ;)
Bladestorm 2nd December 2007, 00:22 Quote
I seem to recall the X-COM rumours started some 12-18 months ago, after a lawyer that worked for irrational listed an new x-com game amongst there credits in an entry on his website (and the rumour was not exactly snuffed out when it was realized that take2 the studio's publisher owned the rights to said series now)

I love Enemy Unknown, am so-so on terror from the deep (so, so very hard!) quite like apocalypse (It may have had its failings in some ways, but it did evolve a fair bit of the usability in interface etc) don't mind interceptor (but wish they'd spent a little more time on the bugs and the flight engine ..) hate enforcer.

The after series has overall been a little dissapointing, they started out with a very rushed game that tried to be ambitious in some ways, then each further game has trimmed back the ambition but improved whats actually there with afterlight being the best yet, but the second and third went with static maps and become so very, very repetitive (and the first wasn't truly random, but it was better then completely static).
boiled_elephant 2nd December 2007, 02:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zurechial

I'm really starting to sound like an anti-console forum-troll here, but I think my bitterness is understandable when considering Deus Ex vs Invisible War, Morrowind vs Oblivion, Fallout 2 vs Fallout 3, System Shock 2 vs BioShock, etc etc..

Someone please prove me wrong. :(
Bethesda and Eidos Montreal, I'm looking at you. I'm not hopeful, but I'm looking at you.

My solution? Revert. Retrograde. I just shelve my love of graphics and my need to buy expensive hardware every 5 months, and play Morrowind, Deus Ex, Final Fantasy VII and Silent Hill 1. After a while, the horrible graphics don't phase you, and you realise how much better games used to be :p
Zurechial 2nd December 2007, 03:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by boiled_elephant
My solution? Revert. Retrograde. I just shelve my love of graphics and my need to buy expensive hardware every 5 months, and play Morrowind, Deus Ex, Final Fantasy VII and Silent Hill 1. After a while, the horrible graphics don't phase you, and you realise how much better games used to be :p

You're preaching to the choir. :p

I'm playing through Fallout & Fallout 2 for the umpteenth time at the moment (literally, F2 is minimised on my taskbar) and I actually love the graphics of both games - The artwork is gritty, but gorgeous in its own way - I don't need graphics to be cutting-edge, I just like them to be pleasing to my eyes. :)
Using the engine tweaks dll-mod by timeslip allows for some small improvements to the engine, but what I really want is a full-screen gaussian blur/softening filter so that the game doesn't look as pixellated in its 640x480, 256-colour glory on my 22" screen. Certainly not necessary to enjoy such exceptional games though. ;)

I play through Deus Ex, Fallout 2, Baldur's Gate 1/2/TOB, FF7, FF8 & System Shock 2 at least 4-5 times per year. Each.
I dread the day that I finally get too bored of any one of the above to play through it again, but if it hasn't happened by now... :)
Major 2nd December 2007, 23:42 Quote
I'm just waiting for STALKER 2. :)
boiled_elephant 3rd December 2007, 13:08 Quote
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...I was waiting for someone to remember about that.
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Originally Posted by Major
I'm just waiting for STALKER 2. :)
And I, too, am waiting for that!
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