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Warren Spector not bothered about Deus Ex 3

Warren Spector not bothered about Deus Ex 3

Warren Spector, who now works for Disney, is hopeful about how Deus Ex 3 will turn out.

Deus Ex - the very name communicates a sensation of quality and beautiful gameplay to an entire generation of gamers. Deus Ex 2 on the other hand? Eh, not so good. How Deus Ex 3 will hold up remains to be seen though.

Still, at least Warren Spector, who now works for Disney, is hopeful about how the game turns out...or, maybe he's not hopeful. He's kind of ambivalent about the whole thing really.

"Of course I'm going to play it, but... I'm a strangely emotional guy in some ways. In some ways I'm just not, in other ways it's just like I'm sitting here thinking, "Oh my gosh, these are characters and situations and a world that I was so intimately involved with for so much of my life and now someone else is going to play with my baby!"

"It's hard, but I've talked to a bunch of guys at Eidos and they seem committed to the property, so I'm sure they'll do a great job," said Spector, who designed the first and best in the series of games which chart a number of conspiracies to rule the world, in a recent interview.

Deus Ex The Third is currently being developed by Eidos Montreal and neither Warren Spector nor Harvey Smith, who worked on the second instalment, are attached to the game in any way. We can only hope that the new game doesn't succumb to the same problems as Deus Ex 2: Invisible War, which was criticised for simplified RPG elements and tiny levels with long load times.

Without Spector's input, many gamers are worried that the third game in the series may be the weakest yet and that the game may try to cater too much to console gamers or series n00bs.

How do you think the third game is going to pan out? Which ending was your favourite in the first two games? Let us know in the forums, or in the comments section below.

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Bungle 24th July 2007, 17:20 Quote
we're boned.
Veles 24th July 2007, 17:26 Quote
I hope this game turns out good, but I think it may be no-where near as good as the original, just like my fears for Fallout 3.
Paradigm Shifter 24th July 2007, 17:27 Quote
It cannot possibly be worse than DX:IW.

I take comfort in that. ;)
DXR_13KE 24th July 2007, 17:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
It cannot possibly be worse than DX:IW.

are you sure?
Paradigm Shifter 24th July 2007, 17:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
are you sure?

Pretty sure. ;) I loathed DX:IW with a passion so deep that new words need to be invented to describe it.
MiNiMaL_FuSS 24th July 2007, 17:43 Quote
DX2 was bloody awful, right down to the interface and the graphics, just plain bad.

DX on the other hand was possibly the greatest game of all time, rivaling the original Half-Life in my humble opinion. We can only hope that the makers of 3 can steer away from what was a flop and a crap game now that they know what to avoid as it were; but i doubt it'll be as good as Deus Ex was.....time to go play it again i think...
Veles 24th July 2007, 17:50 Quote
I think the news image should be changed to this

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/Veles343/1183637392613.jpg

The greatest tragedy of our time :(

Woops that image is massiver than I thought it was
DXR_13KE 24th July 2007, 20:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
are you sure?

Pretty sure. ;) I loathed DX:IW with a passion so deep that new words need to be invented to describe it.

how about a exact clone of DX 2 but this time with longer loading screens and less story?
BoomAM 25th July 2007, 00:29 Quote
I read a rumor the other week that DX 3 could be a remake of DX1, just with updated graphics and whatnot. Which i'd be pleased about.

DX2 isnt an amazing game, but its not as bad as people make out either. Sure, compared to DX1 it looks awful, but theres probably only about 5 games that have ever been able to compare to DX1. So it was allways gonna be hard to live up to DX1.
If you take DX2 for what it is, and stop thinking every few mins, 'in DX1...' then you'll probably appriciate the game more.
Veles 25th July 2007, 02:01 Quote
Yeah I didn't mind DX2 myself, didn't hold a candle to DX, but it was still quite a good game.
tzang 25th July 2007, 05:26 Quote
As long as they used the approach to make DX for DX3, it should be fine.

Letting Harvey Smith (Witchboy) take over the DX project to make DX:IW seemed to be the cause of the problem although I recall Warren looking after Harvey back then. Couple that with the game being developed for the console in mind, that took away a lot of potential ideas for the game (interface for console, simplicity for console, etc...). You also had the issue of how the ending of DX could transition to the start of DX:IW due to the multiple endings.

But as BoomAm mentioned, if you ignore DX and played DX:IW, the game isn't bad at all (along with the good graphics and physics... although the music was a bit disappointing, apart from the title music). The problem was, DX was a fantastic game and people had high hopes for DX2. They were let down when their expectations weren't met.

With the DX hype completely gone, DX3 should settle in more comfortably... unless the devs completely screw it up. There are no indications that any of the original team members will help to develop DX3 so things could turn out rather interesting.
CardJoe 25th July 2007, 08:54 Quote
IIRC, Harvey was given free rein on DX2, but monitored on Thief 3, which uses the same engine. Thief 3 was awesome, but DX2 was...disappointing. It wasn't THAT bad, and I quite liked the circle of mods around the screen personally, but they threw away all the RPG elements and the whole game felt too claustrophobic because of the tiny levels. Keeping the RPG elements and making the levels bigger (may have needed an engine change) would have made it much more fun.

One thing I loved about DX2 were the 'unique weapons', hidden guns that had special names and attributes. There was one unique gun of every type somewhere in the game that just needed to be found.

Still, the lamest thing about the game? Universal ammo. Give me a break, even console gamers aren't THAT stupid.
ThijsH 16th June 2008, 17:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by BoomAM
I read a rumor the other week that DX 3 could be a remake of DX1, just with updated graphics and whatnot. Which i'd be pleased about.

This is true. There is currently a few teams working on improved ghrapics, both object graphics and worldgraphics.
<A href="http://www.moddb.com/mods/9009/deus-ex-new-vision">The "NewVision" mod</A>
<http://www.moddb.com/mods/4470/project-hdtp">project HDTP mod</A>

Also, a mod is being made for unreal tournament 2004 which basicely gives DeusEx a better engine (The unreal tournament 2004 one), which is usefull for rendering the better graphics: <A href="http://www.moddb.com/mods/6569/deus-ex-reborn">Deus Ex Reborn</A>
These mods are all compadible with eachother, which when combined will result in one hell of a remake
CardJoe 16th June 2008, 17:33 Quote
...so it isn't true then. Those are mods, not DX3.

DX3 is DX3, maybe a prequel, but definitely not a remake.
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