Sony decapitates goats to promote God Of War II

Sony's launch party for God of War II featured topless models decapitating goats and feeding offal to the crowd

Sony, it appears, will do anything to boost sales these days. According to The Daily Mail the company will even go as far as animal sacrifices to promote a title.

The launch party for God of War II reached controversial new lows recently when a decapitated goat was bought on as the party's centrepiece. Guests were then encouraged by topless women to reach in and grab some offal from the still warm corpse as a party snack.

Other attractions at the event included knife throwing and guests being allowed to pull live snakes from a pit, while a Kratos look-a-like handed out garlands to the crowd.

Obviously the event has produced all manner of bad press, with the International Fund for Animal Welfare denouncing the event as an "Outrageous way to sell a few computer games."

A spokesman for the charity went on to say that: "We are always opposed to any senseless killing of an animal and this sounds like a gruesome death. We condemn Sony's actions. It is stupid and completely unjustified."

The event was then covered, with gruesome close-ups, in the Official PlayStation 2 magazine. Complaints have prompted the company to recall over 80,000 copies of the magazine though subscribers will already be getting theirs in the mail.

Sony has admitted that some of the events at the party, which was held in Athens last month, may have been unsuitable.

It looks like things aren't going well for Sony lately, what with Ken Kutaragi, the so-called 'Father of PlayStation' retiring and Game refusing to stock Sony's biggest game for the PS3 to date.

So, is there such a thing as bad publicity? Make your mind up and let us know in the forums!
Quote DougEdey 30th April 2007, 11:32
Double You Tee Eff.

I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.
Quote hughwi 30th April 2007, 11:47
This really isnt helping their reputation, and that is just stupid, why would they even think doing such a thing would be good marketing?
Quote wafflesomd 30th April 2007, 12:02
If you knew David Jaffe, you would totally understand all this.
Quote whisperwolf 30th April 2007, 12:05
Then again it has achieved one of the primary goals of marketing, everyone now knows God of War 2 is lauching. Still wonder what they were taking when they thought up the idea though.
Quote CardJoe 30th April 2007, 12:19
Everyone knew God of War II was launching anyway. I've not even tried either games, but I knew they were out and supposed to be very good.

All they've done is pissed off Daily Mail readers. Good for them, but if Jack Thompson finds out then it'll bite them in the ass. I may pass it on to him, just to spite Sony's attitude to European customers.

N'ah.
Quote specofdust 30th April 2007, 12:33
I know this was crazy from a PR perspective, I know it's enraged the daily hate sheeps. But people....let's get one thing straight:

This was awesome

Sony have definitely gone up in my eyes for pulling something so utterly crazy.
Quote Juppun 30th April 2007, 12:44
Quote:
Originally Posted by wafflesomd
If you knew David Jaffe, you would totally understand all this.

QFT.
Quote Perforated 30th April 2007, 12:51
"Guests were then encouraged by topless women to reach in and grab some offal from the still warm corpse as a party snack."

There were boobies, and you give us a shot of a guy in an apron? :(
Quote CardJoe 30th April 2007, 12:52
Sony have issued a response over at Kotaku:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/meat-soup/goatgate-sonys-side-of-the-story-256325.php
Quote airchie 30th April 2007, 12:54
Meh.

thousands of people die every day and we're getting all uppity about the killing of one goat??
Its not even like it was a 'senselesss' killing either, folks were eating it.
If that's senseless then we'd better all stop eating burgers, chicken etc... :D

As has been said, there's no such thing as bad press...
Quote sinizterguy 30th April 2007, 13:20
No publicity is bad publicity as far as games sales are concerned - And they have certainly managed to get more publicity than a normal games sales meeting would have achieved.

I personally would not have seen any ads for this game, or looked at it if I saw an ad or even have heard about this except for this.

So while there will be a lot of noise for a little while, the game is being widely publicised.
Quote Vash-HT 30th April 2007, 13:39
That's pretty funny actually, I wonder why they did something so crazy with the UK launch though. I don't think they did anything when it launched here in the US.
Quote Lord_A 30th April 2007, 14:52
Quote:
Originally Posted by specofdust
I know this was crazy from a PR perspective, I know it's enraged the daily hate sheeps. But people....let's get one thing straight:

This was awesome

Sony have definitely gone up in my eyes for pulling something so utterly crazy.

QFT!

Seriously, I wish I was there tbh

All the stupid hippies need to stfu, besides, if you actually read the statement from Sony linked to in CardJoe's post you'll see that the story reported in the UK was just sensationalism (as most things are nowadays )
Quote naokaji 30th April 2007, 15:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_A
QFT!

Seriously, I wish I was there tbh

All the stupid hippies need to stfu, besides, if you actually read the statement from Sony linked to in CardJoe's post you'll see that the story reported in the UK was just sensationalism (as most things are nowadays )

exactly. and i bet its the eu government that's paying the press to badmouth gaming.... afterall, they are the ones that want to ban games and therefore need to increase support for their crazy theories.
Quote Tyinsar 30th April 2007, 15:24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perforated
"Guests were then encouraged by topless women to reach in and grab some offal from the still warm corpse as a party snack."

There were boobies, and you give us a shot of a guy in an apron? :(


(I too looked at the picture and went :? )

As was stated in the story linked by Joe: This happened two months ago and what actually happened was hardly like the impression the story gave.
Quote Zurechial 30th April 2007, 16:57
From CardJoe: http://kotaku.com/gaming/meat-soup/goatgate-sonys-side-of-the-story-256325.php

We all may have a certain distaste for Sony lately, but who're you going to believe, SCEE or the Daily Mail?

I'd take SCEE any day.

Honestly, this story seems to be nothing more than tabloid sensationalism, and bit-tech never struck me as being an online tabloid before, nor do I think it should be.
Is this really a fitting story for bit-tech to present, especially in such a one-sided, sensationalist manner?
Does bit-tech really want to come across as being in the same boat as the Daily Mail?

I hope not.. It'd be more than a little bit disappointing. :|
Quote glaeken 30th April 2007, 17:30
There's nothing better than topless chicks and a decapitated goat ;)
Quote Faulk_Wulf 30th April 2007, 17:31
EDIT: I just read the story on the link two posts above this one, and I think I just excuted a perfect example of society: We're all so eager to attack and blame people that we don't even ask: "Could there be another side of the story." I will keep my main post below because it still makes good satirical commentary, but if that link is accurate with its information then ... ... well ... *grabs crowbar to remove his foot from his mouth*
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Okay. In the USA, video games tend to be on shakey ground already. I mean Hot Coffee put the country in an uproar, Wal-Mart and similar brands won't even carry M games. And now Sony goes and makes this blunder?
I mean beyond the fact that they needlessly slaughtered a goat. (I mean you couldn't pit roast a pig or something?) And the nudity and such. There's the much bigger issue:

Someone approved this idea. So the meeting must have been like this:
#1: Hey, we need to really really promote God of War II!
#2: Any ideas?
#3: Topless women could sell games!
#2: Good, I like that.
#1: But let's make it in the era of the game, so that it looks tasteful.
#2: That makes sense.
#4: What about adding a Goat Sacrifice, letting people touch the entrails, and then having the whole thing in Athens?
*long pause, cricket chirp*
#2: Johnson, you've just recieved a promotion.

My point in that satire is this: WHO THE [insert profanity of choice here] THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?!

If I was the Father of PlayStation, I'd be happy I retired before this fiasco.

(God Of War II is an excellent game, and I'm a fan of the PS1 and PS2, but between the price, poor marketing, and like of tier 1 games for the PS3 (Even Army of Two isn't exclusive anymore) I see less and less reason to have faith in Sony and their company as a whole.

Any fanboy, or educated soul who'd care to correct me. Go for it.

:(
Quote Vash-HT 30th April 2007, 17:54
There are stores that don't carry M rated games? I bought GoW fromt he Wal Mart by me, they card everyone that buys an M rated game but I hadn't heard any stores actually stopped carrying them.
Quote Ramble 30th April 2007, 18:25
That's pretty bizarre and sick, but I have to hand it to Sony, whoever is doing their marketing is a genius. They're in the public eye for pretty much everything now.
Plus, boobies = great.
Quote devdevil85 30th April 2007, 18:45
First off: this event happened 2 months ago! Why are we just now hearing about it? Secondly, the event was held in Greece! Greece!! Ok. If anyone knows anything about countries such as these dead goats are "normal". I have been to Spain and France, and if you are shocked and appalled at the dead goat, then go to the Meat Markets there and you'll see all sorts of dead, cut-open animals waiting to be bought and taken home to be eaten. Seriously, this is so stupid. So if it were a pig, then everything would've been "ok", but because it's a goat it's 'wrong'?

Lastly, Joe Martin is the most one-sided Bit-tech journalists I have ever heard when it comes to the PS3/Sony. Whatever kind of bad rep (whether it's stretched for all it's worth like this article for example) he can throw at Sony in order to make them out to be some horrible, money scrounging company, he will try. He has said things such as 'PS3 has never had PS1 BC until the newest update' along with saying that the 360 and Wii have better, more comprehensive BC than PS3 which again is totally biased and can be easily proven wrong.

I agree with Zurechial: Bit-tech should not be a online tabloid, spreading biased one-sided reports before everything is said and done. That is why I am a member of Bit-tech.net. They are and should always be THE place for truthful, two-sided information/reviews/articles/whatever, and it is with articles such as these that I am getting sick and tired and I am expecting something to be done.

Of course, Joe Martin posts the aftermath remarks (in the forums none-the-less) from Sony AFTER he posts the article. It is with these remarks that Sony shows that the article was written by a journalist that never even attended the freaking event. So wtf does he know about what happened? Secondly the publisher even said itself that the article should not be seen as 'fact' or be a representation of what actually occured at the event. Of course Joe posts a picture that anybody can take as being offensive instead of showing more pictures of the event to help sum it all up, like the super hot girls.

Does anyone else agree with me on this that articles like these should not hit Bit-tech until both sides of the story are put together?
Quote MrBurritoMan 30th April 2007, 19:35
three words:

Oh
My
Goodness

I'm glad to say that i never liked sony and apparently never will.
Quote ralph.pickering 30th April 2007, 19:35
Cue the next publicity stunt where Sony representatives actually shoot themselves in the feet to get press coverage.

The vegetarian, animal rights activist side of me is slightly outraged... the rest of me is smiling inside that Sony is forced to do this sort of thing to get sales. Desperation much?
Quote Neogumbercules 30th April 2007, 20:30
They got a pre-dead ( ) goat from a local butcher. They didn't butcher it on stage and they didn't torture the animal. No one ever touched actual goat guts.

It was STILL a crazy thing to do. Awesome, and crazy. Lets think about this rationally though.


It was only a dead goat. A goat that was going to be slaughtered and eaten anyway. They didn't have the goat slaughtered just to do this show. Millions of goats are slaughtered every year. It's not that big of a deal.

Besides, there were boobs.

Maybe they shouldn't have used an actual dead goat. I think a prop would have been good enough.
Quote pendragon 30th April 2007, 21:54
what. the. crap. ?
Quote devdevil85 30th April 2007, 22:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
They got a pre-dead ( ) goat from a local butcher. They didn't butcher it on stage and they didn't torture the animal. No one ever touched actual goat guts.

It was STILL a crazy thing to do. Awesome, and crazy. Lets think about this rationally though.


It was only a dead goat. A goat that was going to be slaughtered and eaten anyway. They didn't have the goat slaughtered just to do this show. Millions of goats are slaughtered every year. It's not that big of a deal.

Besides, there were boobs.

Maybe they shouldn't have used an actual dead goat. I think a prop would have been good enough.

Thank God! Somebody who finally is thinking rationally about this whole thing. I mean using a decapitated goat was a little 'out there' and a barbaric, but it's Greece; you see all sorts of slaughtered/gutted animals in the Meat Markets there anyways so it kinda makes sense being a completely different country with different customs and cultural norms.

It is with that said that I think Joe's title is, as usual, way over-biased and over-the-top for what the situation is. I mean the fact that he titled the article "Sony decapitates goats to promote God Of War II" speaks for itself. It's like he's saying Sony decapitated the goat, which is totally untrue considering they bought it pre-decapitated, and that they slaughtered/totured it, which again is not true according to Sony's remarks. He also is making a huge deal out of Ken's retirement being a huge "let down" or something which again is bias in itself since he's now an honorary chairman for Sony which will still allow him to be involved with any future development.
Quote cpemma 30th April 2007, 23:42
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neogumbercules
They got a pre-dead ( ) goat from a local butcher...
Full story here. (Oops, CardJoe already linked it above)
Quote:
# The actual article in the Official PlayStation mag was written by a guy who wasn't in attendance; the piece was done on the basis of the party's invite, "which employed a degree of hyperbole in order to encourage attendance".

# The goat in question had already been killed (ie it wasn't killed at the party), and had been sourced from a local butcher.

# The goat's "entrails" were actually bowls of traditional Greek meat soup. At no stage was anyone allowed to touch the goat, nor did anyone eat or drink anything from inside the goat. After the party, the carcass was returned to the butcher.
Got the Mail on Sunday going a bit though...

Now they'll have to fall back on the boobies.
Quote zndkwin 1st May 2007, 00:15
It's kinda of ironic, people getting outraged over a goat, even sorta hypocritical, I mean, that's nothing compared to the slaughter in Iraq. Friendly fire anyone?
Quote Aankhen 1st May 2007, 01:05
Quote:
Originally Posted by specofdust
But people....let's get one thing straight:

This was awesome
No, let's get this straight: that was disgusting, the intention as much as the (apparently incorrectly described) reality. I can't believe that a stupid bloody video game publicity event was conducted this way, and I can't believe you would actually find it laudable.
Quote CardJoe 1st May 2007, 09:27
I better deal with this in stages. Be aware I'm also working on a follow-up story to this atm.

Quote:
Originally Posted by devdevil85
First off: this event happened 2 months ago! Why are we just now hearing about it? Secondly, the event was held in Greece! Greece!! Ok. If anyone knows anything about countries such as these dead goats are "normal". I have been to Spain and France, and if you are shocked and appalled at the dead goat, then go to the Meat Markets there and you'll see all sorts of dead, cut-open animals waiting to be bought and taken home to be eaten. Seriously, this is so stupid. So if it were a pig, then everything would've been "ok", but because it's a goat it's 'wrong'?

Firstly, I think the major issue here is not that the goat was killed - which obviously happens everyday thousands of times so we can eat, but the fact that the event appeared to use the animals death in an inappropriate manner. This was then reported in a magazine that, AFAIK, doesn't have an age restriction on it. Some people obviously object to this.

It's nothing to do with the goat/pig thing. If they'd bought a dead pig on stage then I still would have covered it. Its not to do with what animal it is, it's to do with the animal being there to start with.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DevDevil85
Lastly, Joe Martin is the most one-sided Bit-tech journalists I have ever heard when it comes to the PS3/Sony. Whatever kind of bad rep (whether it's stretched for all it's worth like this article for example) he can throw at Sony in order to make them out to be some horrible, money scrounging company, he will try. He has said things such as 'PS3 has never had PS1 BC until the newest update' along with saying that the 360 and Wii have better, more comprehensive BC than PS3 which again is totally biased and can be easily proven wrong.

Well, to start with I agree I don't like Sony. I can't help that, its a matter of opinion based on how I see they've treated their market as a whole and especially european audiences. Sure, Microsoft screw us over a whole lot too (and you'll find me bitching about Vista as much as Sony) and Nintendo need to sort out their supply lines, but it isn't anywhere near as bad as Sony. Besides, nobody else had a dead goat for an event AFAIK.

As far as BC goes, I continue to think that the 360 and the Wii have better BC than the PS3 seems to have. It's a matter of opinion, which is why I do my best to keep it to the forums rather than frontline press. I know I link to other, relevant, stories of Sonys bad press. But if this were Nintendo, I can promise you I'd do the same thing. I also think its pretty obvious that the Wii has best BC, between VC and complete gamecube support. PS3 BC is something I've not experimented with massively admittedly, but I've only ever pointed out that people seemed to be happy about PS3 BC whereas I would always have expected it as standard.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DevDevil85
I agree with Zurechial: Bit-tech should not be a online tabloid, spreading biased one-sided reports before everything is said and done. That is why I am a member of Bit-tech.net. They are and should always be THE place for truthful, two-sided information/reviews/articles/whatever, and it is with articles such as these that I am getting sick and tired and I am expecting something to be done.

I'm sorry to hear you think that, honestly. I don't think Bit has become a one-sided tabloid in the month I've worked there. This 'goatgate' as Kotaku have christened it is a massive, notable story in the games community. It had to be reported IMO. I included all details I had at the time and linked to Sonys statement afterwards. As always, I'll try and provide more coverage as new details emerge to ensure that the event is fully covered.
Quote:
Originally Posted by devdevil85
Of course, Joe Martin posts the aftermath remarks (in the forums none-the-less) from Sony AFTER he posts the article. It is with these remarks that Sony shows that the article was written by a journalist that never even attended the freaking event. So wtf does he know about what happened? Secondly the publisher even said itself that the article should not be seen as 'fact' or be a representation of what actually occured at the event. Of course Joe posts a picture that anybody can take as being offensive instead of showing more pictures of the event to help sum it all up, like the super hot girls.

No, I wasn't there at the party but the fact is that Sonys statement only became available to me after the story had run. The story is not intended to imply that I, or any member of Bit, was present. We're merely reporting on a story in the community ATM, using multiple sources such as the Daily Mail, which is linked to.

In regards to the picture, I actually tried to find an image that I thouht would be most appropriate. The picture used is part of a scan of the PS2 mag coverage and I cropped it to show the butcher. I tried to cut out the pointless, pixelated (and this useless to readers) image of the goat as much as possible and I cut out the topless woman because I didn't think that image would do Bits reputation any good, nor would it be suitable for some younger readers.
Quote:
Originally Posted by devdevil85
Does anyone else agree with me on this that articles like these should not hit Bit-tech until both sides of the story are put together?

As always, we at bit both welcome and appreciate your feedback and hope that you'll continue to read. If you've got anything more to say then I'd love to hear it, so PM or email me.

I can assure you that I try to be as balanced as possible in my reporting, giving opinion only where appropriate. The fact that my opinions differ from yours though is something we'll have to live with ;)
Quote DougEdey 1st May 2007, 09:31
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpemma
Now they'll have to fall back on the boobies.

Best quote in this thread. SIG!
Quote devdevil85 1st May 2007, 17:41
Well Joe. I appreciate the reply. It's good to finally hear what you thought of my comments. Personally your opinions will affect many readers and I just feel you need to show as much of both sides as possible as to not change readers' perceptions of something that you would have of course liked it to be (bad rep for Sony). Remember, first impressions of what you post will stick in people's minds even after the issues have been corrected/resolved. I still want you to explain your BC statement on why your think PS3 doesn't offer as good of BC as 360 or Wii considering like 2500+ PS1 and PS2 games are BC with the PS3 and it's growing just as much every day as the 360. I do believe you will show both sides, but I would still try to leave the articles like this open for correction and not make it seem so set in stone. Anyways thanks for the reply and I'll be waiting for yours back.
Quote themax 2nd May 2007, 04:00
Something M rated happed for the release of an M rated game? Wowowowow need to report this to the press. Sony has surely offended the masses, what with their apparent M rated event for their M rated game.....
Quote CardJoe 2nd May 2007, 09:02
My opinion of PS3 BC is that they tried to make a big show of it when really, in a world where the two other major consoles already have BC, it was something users were expecting as standard.

Obviously the Wii has the best BC. You can play all the gamecube games on it, plus VC on top of that which deals with a load of even older games.

Since I haven't posted any articles on sonys BC though, it's not really an issue - just an opinion which I have deliberately kept to the forums discussion instead of using it as an excuse to fight with Sony. I've said it before, I'm not against Sony for any real reason - I just disagree with some of their marketting choices lately and feel they treat europeans users badly. No vendetta.
Quote Major 2nd May 2007, 13:53
People are WAY to sensitive these days. Someone said to me the other day they refuse to buy an Axe to cut trees down because they class it as a weapon.

Cmon, how stupid can you be.
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