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iPhone in the UK: O2, £269 and coming in November

iPhone in the UK: O2, £269 and coming in November

The iPhone is coming to the UK in November but is it worth £899 over 18 months? Probably.

Last month, I told you about details of the iPhone in the UK. A portion of the information was misleading but now there has been official announcements as to the exact launch details. The iPhone will be available for £269 (including VAT) on 9 November from O2.

The iPhone didn't receive the most hypothesised upgrade though and will remain on EDGE and GPRS - that means no 3G connectivity for some high speed downloading. You will, however have unlimited data service on £35, £45, and £55 plans and Apple has teamed up with Cloud to offer over 7,000 Wi-Fi hotspots that will allow connection to internet sites and the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store just in case you want a little more speed or need some form of internet access.

O2 currently has EDGE coverage in roughly 30 percent of Europe but is striding to building a larger network just for the mobile.

Steve Jobs commented on the non-availability of 3G saying, "The 3G chipsets are real power hogs. Handset battery life cuts power to two to three hours. Our phone has a talk time of eight hours and that's really important when you want to use your phone for internet and music."

If you do decide to pick up an iPhone from O2, just keep in mind that you'll be locked into an 18-month contract with the network. And that unlimited data that's included on some of the plans? If you view over 1,400 pages per day, you'll be breaking the fair usage agreement. Also worth bearing in mind that £35 per month over the life of the plan, plus the initial purchase price, puts you in the red to the tune of £899 - a hefty sum for sure.

Word on the street web is that O2 paid through the nose in order to get the iPhone exclusively. The company could be paying Apple up to 40 percent of revenues that it generates from services related to the iPhone.

Picking one up or are you going to set this one out and see if Apple drops the price again in a couple of months? Or would you sooner buy an iPod touch and keep your existing phone? Let us know over in the forums or in the comment section below.

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quack 18th September 2007, 12:21 Quote
Pay for a phone, on top of an 18 month contract? What a novel concept.
naokaji 18th September 2007, 12:24 Quote
thats complete ripoff... really..

pay for the phone... + get forced into an overpriced contract... they should be jailed for robbery.
Darkedge 18th September 2007, 12:34 Quote
cheaper than I thought it would be but still a ripoff. The iPonce crew will love it though, but they'd buy iShit
naokaji 18th September 2007, 12:37 Quote
wrong.. i wanted an iphone... until i've seen the price for the contracts your forced into to get one... so atleast one person wont buy one (me)..

but seeing how many they claim to have sold allready it seems as ther are indeed poeple who dont mind getting robbed.
samkiller42 18th September 2007, 12:39 Quote
I pay £35 a month for my contract with Orange, but i have a better phone, which i didn't have to pay for. There will be those who will be willing to get it, and pay for it, but it is a rip off if you ask me.

Sam
Hugo 18th September 2007, 12:40 Quote
In fairness the contract could be worse, £35pm for 200 mins/txts and unlimited data (including hotspots) isn't that bad a deal. Then of you minus the £200 of an iPod touch your paying £70 for the phone which is similar to a lot of similar-ish smartphones. But, it doesn't have 3G which is teh suck.
Mother-Goose 18th September 2007, 12:42 Quote
too big for a phone, not enough memory as a video ipod...no thank you, I'll have the K850i please.
steveo_mcg 18th September 2007, 12:42 Quote
Your £35 a month goes much further on any other contract than this 200mins and 200txt is very poor at this price, for 20/25 quid you'd getter a better package with any other phone even with O2, its much more obviously subsidising (the already expensive phone), than you would normally see.
blackberry 18th September 2007, 12:50 Quote
Think i'll stick with my Sony Ericsson W800i and my 512mb mp3 player, they prob both fit in my pocket, it's no big deal if they get stolen/broken as they are cheap to replace.

Any way i still don't get why people feel they need to carry around there music collections, all i do is make a playlist of what i'm into at the moment and it takes aboe 2 mins tops to put them on to my muvo.


I-Phone = waste of time rip off!
yakyb 18th September 2007, 13:05 Quote
now im going to have to persuade my GF That she really doesnt need this!
GreatOldOne 18th September 2007, 13:13 Quote
Well, I shall be getting one, even with a 18 month contract. Here's why:

a) 200 mins & 200 txts per month is way over the top for me. I can't get through 75mins & handful of texts per month as it is.
b) My phones last on average 2 years before being replaced, and they're always on contract (I really can't be asked with pay as you go). So 18 months isn't an issue.
c) I'll be getting a iPod Touch for free, essentially. One that has a much better screen than that of the iTouch. So it has half the memory? iTouch has no phone, no bluetooth.
d) I'm an Apple Whore. I admit it freely. Does this make me an iPonce that buys iShit? Nah - I'm not touching AppleTV with a barge pole.
e) My old 30gig iPod Photo can stay as the Jag entertainment system. The iPhone will be mine. I don't need all my Music at work, and definatly not MrsGOOs - Lets just say her tastes differ from mine vastly...
f) Oh come on - it looks so friggin cool. :D
mikeuk2004 18th September 2007, 13:17 Quote
How can they get away with saying unlimited data service and have a fair usage policy of a maximum of 1400 pages a day. That is not unlimited.

I hate this in ISP contracts as Ulmited means there is no limit. All the providers that sell a unlimited service and have a fair usage policy should be finded for false advertising.

Phone and contract is way too expensive. Im not going to pay just under a grand for a phone, i'll have a new Pc instead.
naokaji 18th September 2007, 13:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatOldOne
Well, I shall be getting one, even with a 18 month contract. Here's why:

a) 200 mins & 200 txts per month is way over the top for me. I can't get through 75mins & handful of texts per month as it is.

there's a problem....

the 35£ contract basically makes you pay all those minutes and text... if you dont need them your far better off with a cheaper contract or pay as you go.
GreatOldOne 18th September 2007, 13:42 Quote
Still not an issue to me - I have that problem now on my current contract.

As for unlimited - for most people, I would have thought 1400 pages a day was as close to unlimited as makes no odds. I doubt I even do that sat at home on my laptop. I mean, you're not going to be using your phone as your main browser, are you? It's more a case of you need some info whislt your out and about, google it. Or visit a website you just found out about whilst away from home.
culley 18th September 2007, 13:51 Quote
O2 are going to be rolling out unlimited data on all there price plans from the 1st Oct, would it be better to get a Nokia N95, two of three 8GB SD cards or the hmmm iPhone...
Atomic 18th September 2007, 13:56 Quote
Paying that much for a phone and then having to pay high amounts for the contract aswell. Id expect more texts and minutes for that price.

Yes they can say it costs them to pay for the upgrades (EDGE being a downgrade to 3G but hey) to their network, but I don't feel the contract options are very competitive.
MiT 18th September 2007, 13:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother-Gooser
too big for a phone, not enough memory as a video ipod...no thank you, I'll have the K850i please.

what he said

Waiting for the K850i. Too much money, i never listen to much music on the phone anyway, had a 2GB card in the old one, and only had 5 tracks!! I drive to work and back, so have the car stereo, when at home have the pc.

I think its all just a big fashion statement, "look what i got.."

£35 a month, on T-mobile flex35 can get you more mins and txt!!

Not worth it!!!
The Stig 18th September 2007, 14:03 Quote
OMG such a rip off no chance i`m getting one of those now.
You`d have to be extemely stupid to buy one of those and a shite O2 contract, or have more money than sense.
culley 18th September 2007, 14:09 Quote
I don't see why everyone has there "panties in a bunch", you get screwed over all the time on all mobile phone contracts maybe not to the extent as this one. You get to view 1400 pages a day on your iPhone which is the best deal out at the moment.

Apple products are always expensive, its just like when you think to yourself I want a Mac but then don't want to pay that £200-300 extra when you get an exact same specified machine from other manufacturer. We buy Apple products because the design, look & feel kick ass!
eek 18th September 2007, 14:11 Quote
Blimey, that's shocking.

People out there must be really sucked in by the iApple thing to not see that there are both better and cheaper phones out there! I'd be happy with any of the recent Sony Ericsson phones over this!!
mclean007 18th September 2007, 14:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreatOldOne
c) I'll be getting a iPod Touch for free, essentially. One that has a much better screen than that of the iTouch. So it has half the memory? iTouch has no phone, no bluetooth.
I don't quite get that - you won't be getting it for free - you'll be paying £269 up front and then you'll be paying £35 a month for 18 months for a contract which (a) is poor value to begin with, and (b) is even poorer value for you as you don't need all the bundled minutes.

You say you use 75 minutes plus "a handful" of texts a month. Let's say you use 50 texts (probably an over-estimate) which are worth 10p each (a ripoff in itself, 10p for 140 bytes, but that's another issue). At £35 a month you're looking at £30 on calls + £5 on texts, which works out costing you 40p per minute for your calls. Hardly a great deal.

Don't get me wrong - if you want the phone, that's your choice and I won't criticise anyone who chooses to buy it, but don't kid yourself that it's anything other than a massive luxury. For zero initial outlay and a smaller monthly cost, you could have a smartphone with many of the same features.
Hamish 18th September 2007, 14:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclean007
For zero initial outlay and a smaller monthly cost, you could have a smartphone with many of the same features.
i assume by many you mean 'many more' :p
the only thing other smartphones lack is the multitouch display and the different UI, if thats worth £270 + 35/month to you then ok
certainly not to me, im waiting for orange to roll out this at the end of september and then upgrading to that.
Almightyrastus 18th September 2007, 14:24 Quote
I think I shall just stick with the N95
blackberry 18th September 2007, 14:28 Quote
What ever happened to the good old Nokia 3310
Hamish 18th September 2007, 14:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackberry
What ever happened to the good old Nokia 3310

:)
i think i've still got my original 3310, probably in a drawer with a load of other old electronics crap :D
blackberry 18th September 2007, 14:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
:)
i think i've still got my original 3310, probably in a drawer with a load of other old electronics crap :D

Old School Dude.....Old School

bloodcar 18th September 2007, 14:40 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mclean007
I don't quite get that - you won't be getting it for free - you'll be paying £269 up front and then you'll be paying £35 a month for 18 months for a contract which (a) is poor value to begin with, and (b) is even poorer value for you as you don't need all the bundled minutes.

I think he means that he'll be buying a phone but getting an iPod Touch for free...meaning that since GOO is an Apple whore, he won't need to go out and buy an iTouch. I'm pretty sure that he probably really, really wants one.
GreatOldOne 18th September 2007, 14:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodcar

I think he means that he'll be buying a phone but getting an iPod Touch for free...meaning that since GOO is an Apple whore, he won't need to go out and buy an iTouch. I'm pretty sure that he probably really, really wants one.

Yep. Got it in one. :)
Silver51 18th September 2007, 15:07 Quote
The most advanced feature I need on a phone is the ability to operate "without wires" and summon the AA if my bike breaks down.

Actually, is it wrong to still want a 7110? (The sprung loaded door was missing on the 8110.)
chimaera 18th September 2007, 15:07 Quote
I'm *really* disappointed

1, Its too expensive

2, Its not 3G

3, Still can't use it as a laptop modem

The cost isn't so much of an issue - I'm enough of an Apple nut to have stumped up for it but points 2, and 3, are total deal-breakers for me.
Risky 18th September 2007, 15:10 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
i assume by many you mean 'many more' :p
the only thing other smartphones lack is the multitouch display and the different UI, if thats worth £270 + 35/month to you then ok
certainly not to me, im waiting for orange to roll out this at the end of september and then upgrading to that.

The contract is not sky-high, but payign big bucks for the phone on top is a bit heavy.

However it is perfect for those that buy it for a bit of bling in the pub, where top-end pricing is an advantage.
cyrilthefish 18th September 2007, 15:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish
i assume by many you mean 'many more' :p
the only thing other smartphones lack is the multitouch display and the different UI, if thats worth £270 + 35/month to you then ok
certainly not to me, im waiting for orange to roll out this at the end of september and then upgrading to that.
I was about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it

£270 is a immense amount to pay for a shiny casing
Salazaar 18th September 2007, 17:25 Quote
Hehe. No chance I'm paying that, I'd already pretty much decided to drop off the contract wagon and go pay as you go one my current contract's up.
MiNiMaL_FuSS 18th September 2007, 18:21 Quote
You can buy a new one direct from the Apple Store in America right now, costs around £220 inc shipping...and they are extremely easy to unlock to work on any UK network.
Fr4nk 18th September 2007, 19:16 Quote
I think I'll get the Ipod touch ^^
Joeymac 18th September 2007, 19:51 Quote
1400 page views.. that's about 200MB when it's pages like this one.
Not so many youtube videos. I suppose you won't be doing much youtube browsing on gprs anyway.
I say get a itouch and glue a thin candy bar phone on the back.. or just not bother.
Awoken 18th September 2007, 21:22 Quote
What amazes me is the tiny hooks the phone companies seem to have used to remove a thousand little sections of our brain through our own nostrils rendering us dumb enough to pay their extortionate prices and think we're getting a 'good deal'.
Mother-Goose 19th September 2007, 14:49 Quote
I've just been reading about the Sony Ericsson W960i, now that is something I want and won't have to sell body parts to obtain
Atomic 19th September 2007, 17:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS
You can buy a new one direct from the Apple Store in America right now, costs around £220 inc shipping...and they are extremely easy to unlock to work on any UK network.
Although if you've got a UK address it won't let you enter it in the delivery details :p
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