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Mod of the Month June 2013

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Ljs 5th August 2013, 19:12 Quote
Am I the only one that wants to be able to click on the images and enlarge them?

I read through the article and when introduced with the eye candy, instinctively clicked so I could see them in their full glory.

Great work anyway, some really lovely builds.
Azariel 5th August 2013, 19:23 Quote
Many great builds indeed this month! Will have to look closely who to vote for this time!

And to be honest, the CNC made stuff only gives me more great ideas to put into my modding even if I don't have access to them myself :) Sure it takes me a bit more time to get to the same point, and it can be a bit frustrating at times to see the CNC-ed stuff, but in the end, its the building process which is half the fun for me as well!

As for the sponsored builds league. On one hand I think that would be cool, but you would have to limit it to guys who are actually paid to do the build itself, not those who get parts sponsored as the latter still have to put in all of their own time and work and money!
KidMod-Southpaw 5th August 2013, 19:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pranja
I really can't agree with that-in my case CNC+materials are 3 times cheaper than doing everything with hand with material from store.

How much was your CNC? :p

I'll stop now. :D
skyrip 5th August 2013, 19:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by KidMod-Southpaw
How much was your CNC? :p

I'll stop now. :D

like that i can also complain about you using a dremel because some people only have a handsaw...
i agree that some build are to much sponsored but there is nothing you can do about it.

and i dont see so much differnce between buying a reservoir for instance or letting somebody build a custom one.
Pranja 5th August 2013, 20:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by KidMod-Southpaw
How much was your CNC? :p

I'll stop now. :D

I do not own CNC. But my best friend does. ;)
l3p 5th August 2013, 20:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cheapskate
So many killer builds.
So many disillusioned forum members. Where's the whimsy, guys?
There's a lot of innovation and inspiration in these builds.
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Originally Posted by skyrip
like that i can also complain about you using a dremel because some people only have a handsaw...

Totally right.
How long before some people will just accept it :|
Lasercutters, CNC milling, 3Dprinting ... were totally out of reach up until a few years ago.
Some of these 'tools' can already be ordered below $500 now..... it's the future.

It's up to you to see what kind of work or design and by what machinery or tools is done on a project and not just look at the end result.
(I am a fan of Atilla's handmade scratchbuilds)


I do 100% agree that non sponsored and sponsored builds should be separated. IF that's possible. (means a lot more work for Bit-Tech)
Maki role 5th August 2013, 21:01 Quote
Personally I'm not quite sure if we need to separate things. After all, people can definitely get into the MotM competition regardless of whether you've been sponsored. As for actually competing, people vote for what impresses them, at the same time they like to stick to what they know. Unless you present something simply so novel and fantastic, a rookie will lose out to one of the ol' pros, despite there not being a huge difference in quality often. I've always seen that as part of the challenge. Much like sponsors, you have to win over fans and followers.

As I mentioned earlier, I don't care what tools are used as long as they are used to their fullest potential. Great modders like Attila have consistently shown how much you can accomplish with simple tools, but plenty of others have shown remarkable ingenuity with complex machinery. I just don't like it when somebody uses something like a CNC to produce something that didn't really need it, it just feels like they've missed an opportunity.
Boorach 5th August 2013, 23:22 Quote
Been thinking about this a bit tonight. Would certainly be possible to run a two tiered motm competition, especially if it was done on an 'every other month' basis. The difficulty would be defining what fits in each category. I think it would prove difficult and possibly even contentious at times.
I have come up with an idea that may be suitable without needing a large change to the current system. My idea is to keep the motm as it is but add a 'Notable Mentions' section at the end where a couple of builds can be highlighted. This could promote new modders, interesting elements found within an otherwise routine build or original concepts etc without that build having to be good enough overall for a motm nomination.
fluxtatic 6th August 2013, 07:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by SchizoFrog
I have to admit that for some time now I have been losing interest in these mod builds as they seem to be getting so specialised and further and further away from what the average modder can do or even explore. Don't get me wrong, they all look amazing in their own ways, it's just that the whole thing of modding now seems too far out of reach and just not accessible to the average person.

I feel what you're saying - I actually stayed away from the forums a while back when I was working on a scratch build that went wrong just about every step of the way. Got a bit depressing to realize I can barely squeeze solvent out the bottle right when there are some people on here doing mindblowing work - some with access to tools and machinery I'll never have, but some using not much more than a cordless drill and a Dremel, as I do.

But, I can't hope to get better without continuing to work on it, and seeing the bar get raised the way it seems to have over the past few years here should be an inspiration, rather than a downer.
White-Fox 6th August 2013, 12:03 Quote
this will be a though one :D many good mod's in here this time
Marquee 6th August 2013, 12:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Boorach
All great builds this month with astonishing levels of build quality and attention to detail. For originality though I have to vote for Revelation.

As far as the CNC and sponsorship issues go I think that its great that people are using the latest technology to create innovative and often otherwise unachievable builds. The only downside is that small mods and new modders may be put off sharing their work as it is easy to develop an inferiority complex regarding your own work when surrounded by creative brilliance. For me it has proved both inspiring and frustrating. My original ideas have evolved from seeing what others have done but are now pushing, and often exceeding, my fabrication capabilities - which has resulted in my build being neglected over the last few months. I don't think anything can really be done to improve this situation though as adding a tiered build and award system would reduce the exposure of smaller projects rather than boost it.
Sponsorship is another good thing in my opinion. Allows builders to spend the money that they would otherwise be investing in components on materials and mods. Also shows that the sponsors themselves are maintaining interest in modding which is good for all of us.

You read my mind. By pushing the edge of modding, collectively we are all getting better. These projects are like hot rods, a man building a machine is more about the journey he took to get there then the end result. :D

If Chip Foss was modding a computer would you be un-happy?
Asouter 6th August 2013, 12:38 Quote
Talk about opening a can of worms, Sponsorship and use CNC/3D printers ect....

To be honest they are getting more and more accessible to everyone. I have been fortunate enough to have made good friends here at Bit-Tech and you will find that most that do CNC work would help out guys who don't have them.

As for sponsorship, Sooo difficult to get and if it starts going down the route of separating builds like another forum. It's a short step away from charging advertising fees to post builds ...overclock.net?

The simple truth is every single build promotes manufacturers retail products, it'd be nice to get the support, but the cost is always bigger for the builder.
The_Crapman 6th August 2013, 17:06 Quote
If you're underwhelmed by these superb builds and would like to see one of these 'retro' non cnc mods, done by a complete amateur who may as well be using a rusty spoon instead of a dremmel, see link below. You'll be amazed this was done by a human (barely) and not a ham-fisted giraffe with parkinsons. :D

P.s. I think all these builds are fantastic, each for there own reasons. Regardless of how they were made, you've still got to have the vision to design it, the drive to make it and skill to use that machinery and put these amazing machines together. Take revelation for instance. Let me loose in that workshop and i'd ruin a whole heap of wood and have no arms faster than you can say 'pass me the junior hacksaw'.
Waynio 6th August 2013, 17:38 Quote
Sheesh, this is a month I couldn't pick 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 so all +1. :D
KidMod-Southpaw 6th August 2013, 17:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Crapman
If you're underwhelmed by these superb builds and would like to see one of these 'retro' non cnc mods, done by a complete amateur who may as well be using a rusty spoon instead of a dremmel, see link below. You'll be amazed this was done by a human (barely) and not a ham-fisted giraffe with parkinsons. :D

P.s. I think all these builds are fantastic, each for there own reasons. Regardless of how they were made, you've still got to have the vision to design it, the drive to make it and skill to use that machinery and put these amazing machines together. Take revelation for instance. Let me loose in that workshop and i'd ruin a whole heap of wood and have no arms faster than you can say 'pass me the junior hacksaw'.

Shall we have a good old hand tools party? ;)
The_Crapman 6th August 2013, 17:52 Quote
I'll bring the G-clamps.
Meelobee 6th August 2013, 18:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Crapman
I'll bring the nipple-clamps.

What?! :o

So many great builds again, hard to choose..

As for the whole CNC use in builds, I'd say go for it and use them. I might be a bit biased since I have one on it's way to me :D.
CNC's, lasers and the like are finally getting affordable for most of us and even if it's still out of reach for you to have one yourself, there certainly are enough people here on BT and in the whole modscene to help you out. There even are places like ModWithMe where you can order and even make the parts yourself. That said, even without all the high tech tools you can still make awesome builds (I'm looking at you Atilla & Waynio) or a bit less awesome (points @ inverted in sig) with just basic tools.
In the end it shouldn't matter which tools were used, but how much love and passion went into the build.

If the motm will get split into sponsored and non sponsored, where will the line be? For example, I have a sponsored PSU and fans in my current build, but all the other stuff is bought, will it be in the sponsored motm where it might be competing with 100% sponsored builds or will it be in the non sponsored motm competing with 100% self bought builds? Either way you keep the same issue. Hard to draw a line I think.
The_Crapman 6th August 2013, 19:16 Quote
You're doing yourself a great disservice there meelobee. I thought inverted was brilliant and i love what you're doing with your P180.
B NEGATIVE 6th August 2013, 19:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Crapman
You're doing yourself a great disservice there meelobee. I thought inverted was brilliant and i love what you're doing with your P180.

+1

;)
Andreas | Brodholm 8th August 2013, 19:29 Quote
Woha! Did not notice that I had been selected as one of the contenders until yesterday!

I consider this a huge honor, especially considering all of the superb mods here!
p0Pe 8th August 2013, 21:32 Quote
I would also like to say thanks for the nomination!

I find it interesting that we have two builds that is deemed complete after the motm went up. Should be fun to see the outcome of this one! Good luck mates.
Sn3akr 27th August 2013, 11:09 Quote
Where do i vote??? I can't find any links on where to vote, and search on forums just gives a lot of old MOTM entries
Pierre3400 27th August 2013, 11:18 Quote
I found the voting to be at the top of this thread.
Meelobee 27th August 2013, 17:51 Quote
You can't anymore as this was for the MOTM for june which already ended. New MOTM will arrive soon and then you can vote in the thread.
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