bit-tech.net

How to Build a DVD Server

Comments 51 to 75 of 91

Reply
B3CK 2nd January 2010, 04:01 Quote
When your ripping the dvd's, are you able to keep the menu and special features as well?
Flibblebot 2nd January 2010, 11:46 Quote
It is possible to rip the whole disc structure, including menus and extras, I just choose not to because I very rarely watch the extras more than once.
Mark20040 4th January 2010, 08:08 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadawgis732
My implementation is much sweeter. I have two PCs that I use a laptop and a gaming PC, both are networked to a Optiplex GX520 which I've converted into a server with around 5 TB of space dynamic JBOD with Windows Home Server. I run MediaBrowser on both PC's complete with Media Center Master (getting all the <meta>data you can find on x movie) and StarkCovers to make the folder.jpg appear to be a DVD case for standard conversions (<1.45GB) and a BluRay case for HD (720P, 1080P). I have 426 standard movies 40 HD movies and about 11 TV Series (every episode of curb your enthusiasm, south park, and battlestar galactica). I'll even provide a few screenies.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-32-13-88.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-32-25-46.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-32-51-28.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-32-52-92.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-32-55-76.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-04-57.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-14-99.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-17-88.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-26-71.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-31-03.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-33-49-08.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-34-05-92.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-34-13-56.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-34-15-36.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x283/jadawgis732/Media%20Broser/thehshell2009-12-3103-34-18-79.jpg

I use a similar setup to this. I have Blu Ray ripped as iso and use VirtualCloneDrive to mount disc. Mediabrowser will auto mount iso to virtual drive and ask to use PowerDVD or TMT whichever is installed.

I like to use full Blu Ray discs for picture and sound quality as that was the point in having it in the first place. Only problem is storage.
Xir 4th January 2010, 12:29 Quote
Sounds like a system that you could sell professionally, I guess it would really start to shine when used with more clients ;-)
thanks for the great read!

With storage beeing so cheap, I've stopped encoding and just rip uncompressed (DVD's).
Especially when upscaling to full-hd, your source can't be good enough (IMHO).
A 1TB disk will hold about 200 DVD's so...meh ;-)

Haven't done this for BluRay's yet though (no player in the PC), how big are the files?
Flibblebot 4th January 2010, 13:08 Quote
BluRay uncompressed movie only weighs in at around 30Gb
jamesthebard 4th January 2010, 16:53 Quote
Great article. I've tried the various incarnations of HTPC front-end/file server backends and I ended up using an old Mac Mini running XBMC/Plex and Linux on the back end serving the movies and television shows. Has enough to push my 1080P H.264 rips with DTS Surround sound and doesn't take up too much space. The file server on the other hand...

@Xir: Depending on what your target is for BluRay, you can get them down from 20-30GB (uncompressed) to around ~9 GB (compressed, H.264, DTS at 1536 kbps) and keep the 1080P goodness. The issues are more along the lines of it being tedious to decrypt/demux/encode/remux. That and playing anything more "pure" than DD/DTS 5.1 requires a secure digital path from the player to the speakers. My rips tend to re-encode surround into DTS, Dolby, or AAC so it's a non-issue here. I tend to take DVD and encode them to around 700 MB to 1.5 GB depending on what they are.
kornedbeefy 4th January 2010, 17:05 Quote
[QUOTE=fathazza]or just buy a 400 disc bluray carousel....
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665945153

QUOTE]

This is the winner! After reading everyones responses and the original article this wins hands down. This solves the issue of deciding what hardware you should buy or use. Eliminating any irritating issues you have with configuring some random piece of software on a random PC/server. Then the Streaming doesn't work to your 360/PS3 or even if it does it isn't as nice as you thought it should be. Lets not forget about ripping corrrectly. I know, I've been trying to do it all of the above recently and it hasn't been as great as I thought it would be especially when I could just get off my butt and go put the dvd/blueray in the PS3.

It all sounded wonderful before I tried it. Just rip your movies to a server and stream them to your tv. Putting it into practice has been a whole different experience.

Oh ya, I'd love one of these. Now only if I could afford one. Time to start saving. ;)
Cupboard 4th January 2010, 22:40 Quote
The only thing is, it isn't so useful with a Love Film subscription. Not that anyone would take advantage of one of though though :D

And you can't share things round the house.
HourBeforeDawn 5th January 2010, 06:48 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
I use a similar setup to this. I have Blu Ray ripped as iso and use VirtualCloneDrive to mount disc. Mediabrowser will auto mount iso to virtual drive and ask to use PowerDVD or TMT whichever is installed.

I like to use full Blu Ray discs for picture and sound quality as that was the point in having it in the first place. Only problem is storage.

woot thanks, going to try this out now ^_^

Edit: Works pretty well, have a few tweaks to do and what not to get it down and looking right but overall for free not to bad at all. :) Now to get hulu to integrate into media center and I shall be set.
Xir 5th January 2010, 12:00 Quote
Thx for the quick info...seems I'll have to get into compressing again with Blurays *sigh*
Mark20040 5th January 2010, 14:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
woot thanks, going to try this out now ^_^

Edit: Works pretty well, have a few tweaks to do and what not to get it down and looking right but overall for free not to bad at all. :) Now to get hulu to integrate into media center and I shall be set.

http://tinyurl.com/yfz33ku
To set CloneDrive auto
HourBeforeDawn 5th January 2010, 17:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
http://tinyurl.com/yfz33ku
To set CloneDrive auto

thanks, that was one of my problems lol.
HourBeforeDawn 6th January 2010, 19:38 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
woot thanks, going to try this out now ^_^

Edit: Works pretty well, have a few tweaks to do and what not to get it down and looking right but overall for free not to bad at all. :) Now to get hulu to integrate into media center and I shall be set.

http://tinyurl.com/yfz33ku
To set CloneDrive auto

okay I have it configured as shown in the pic, I can get the cyberlink to launch, I have two an older one for HD-DVD and the newer one for Blu-Ray and each launch correctly for the format needed but I dont think the image is mounting and loading into the player, is there something Im missing?
Mark20040 6th January 2010, 23:07 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
woot thanks, going to try this out now ^_^

Edit: Works pretty well, have a few tweaks to do and what not to get it down and looking right but overall for free not to bad at all. :) Now to get hulu to integrate into media center and I shall be set.

http://tinyurl.com/yfz33ku
To set CloneDrive auto

okay I have it configured as shown in the pic, I can get the cyberlink to launch, I have two an older one for HD-DVD and the newer one for Blu-Ray and each launch correctly for the format needed but I dont think the image is mounting and loading into the player, is there something Im missing?

I take you are are configuring External Player? I use PowerDVD 9 which integrates with Media Center and does not launch external player but stays within MC. In other words do not configure external player.

Unfortunatley PowerDVD 9 does not play HD-DVD. You could substitute PowerDVD for TotalMedia Theatre 3 as this integrates into Media Center and plays HD-DVD as well as Blu Ray and also upscales DVDs if you have SimHD plugin too. You can also configure this for external player too and it works fine. There is a free trial at Arcsoft.com
Mark20040 6th January 2010, 23:24 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
woot thanks, going to try this out now ^_^

Edit: Works pretty well, have a few tweaks to do and what not to get it down and looking right but overall for free not to bad at all. :) Now to get hulu to integrate into media center and I shall be set.

http://tinyurl.com/yfz33ku
To set CloneDrive auto

okay I have it configured as shown in the pic, I can get the cyberlink to launch, I have two an older one for HD-DVD and the newer one for Blu-Ray and each launch correctly for the format needed but I dont think the image is mounting and loading into the player, is there something Im missing?

I take you are are configuring External Player? I use PowerDVD 9 which integrates with Media Center and does not launch external player but stays within MC. In other words do not configure external player.

Unfortunatley PowerDVD 9 does not play HD-DVD. You could substitute PowerDVD for TotalMedia Theatre 3 as this integrates into Media Center and plays HD-DVD as well as Blu Ray and also upscales DVDs if you have SimHD plugin too. You can also configure this for external player too and it works fine. There is a free trial at Arcsoft.com

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/QeChGdJx8LZDuswAFChISA?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/nfqr2SUtZcaPWv1OysftiA?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DPxSjgx9veU3tAKPoSVUsA?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_Tb6xgkTnZRSbL7cnppwSw?feat=directlink
HourBeforeDawn 7th January 2010, 00:53 Quote
oh okay so I dont have to configure this for outside, okay cool and I will look into TotalMedia Theatre 3, is that like a one time fee with as many updates as you want.?
xDeaDReckoninGx 7th January 2010, 09:53 Quote
nice
HourBeforeDawn 7th January 2010, 10:04 Quote
Well I have to say, I would highly recommend to people that have Windows Media Center Vista or Win7 to use Media Blaster and Media Center Master, oh and for cooler looking Images use StarkCovers. Best free option I have seen out there that looks as good as that expensive program that guy paid for, have to give my thanks to the two people that posted here that brought this to my attention, many thanks. ;)

My netbook is like 95% done, have some backdrops that jacked up and need to be fixed, my main media server on other hand thats going to take a while lol and Im still working out the blu-ray and HD-DVD playback but other then that, I would excellent all around. :)

http://hourbeforedawn.com/miscpics/DSC03096.JPG

Im going to add about 20 more movies to my netbook oh if your wondering I upgraded my eeepc 1000he to 2gb of ram and a 500gb hdd, I also plan to set it up to pull movies from my home theater pc/server once thats finished. ^_^
Mark20040 8th January 2010, 03:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
oh okay so I dont have to configure this for outside, okay cool and I will look into TotalMedia Theatre 3, is that like a one time fee with as many updates as you want.?

Yes. Try Cyberlink first as I described. Only problem is HD-DVD
Wossack 8th January 2010, 12:10 Quote
to store, Im using windows home server
to play, vista media center + mediabrowser (dell studio hybrid + logitech dinovo mini)
to rip, anydvd + dvdshrink
to catalog, tvrename+ metabrowser (mb populates the meta data, covers etc for mediabrowser)

some niggles with vista media center crashing during playback on some downloaded content (poorly encoded I presume), but windows media player plays them fine -.- must rustle up an xbmc box..

have tried my hand at reencodes, but my handbrake results were always very poor unfortunately
HourBeforeDawn 9th January 2010, 09:14 Quote
Alright I have another question, where can I find the backdrops? like some of them are stored in the actual movies folder so thats cool I can delete the ones that seem to not have downloaded all the way and renumber them, but then there are some that are not with the movies so where are those stored?
Mark20040 9th January 2010, 21:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Alright I have another question, where can I find the backdrops? like some of them are stored in the actual movies folder so thats cool I can delete the ones that seem to not have downloaded all the way and renumber them, but then there are some that are not with the movies so where are those stored?
Use Media Center Master, it searches from imdb.com for info and backdrops
Mark20040 9th January 2010, 21:59 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
Alright I have another question, where can I find the backdrops? like some of them are stored in the actual movies folder so thats cool I can delete the ones that seem to not have downloaded all the way and renumber them, but then there are some that are not with the movies so where are those stored?
Use Media Center Master, it searches from imdb.com for info and backdrops

Sorry I get your question now. C:\Program Data\Media Browser\Image Cache. You will need to show hidden files in folder options
HourBeforeDawn 10th January 2010, 01:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark20040
Sorry I get your question now. C:\Program Data\Media Browser\Image Cache. You will need to show hidden files in folder options

strange I dont have that folder at all >< Im on Windows 7 Pro 64bit if that makes a difference running the latest Media Browser and Media Center Master.
Initialised 17th January 2010, 23:34 Quote
No, it's here on 7 ultimate 64: C:\ProgramData\MediaBrowser\ImageCache you have to do "Organise, Folder and Search Options, View, Show Hidden files, folders and drives" before you can see C:\programdata.

The part of the build I really like is the unRAID drive management server, can this be done in a VM on Windows 7 to eliminate the need for separate physical file and streaming servers
Log in

You are not logged in, please login with your forum account below. If you don't already have an account please register to start contributing.



Discuss in the forums