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Mod Of The Year 2013 - The Winners

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slipperyskip 24th January 2014, 10:39 Quote
Congrats to all the winners!
SchizoFrog 24th January 2014, 11:05 Quote
Congratulations to the winners. Before the war of opinions kicks off I just want to say that I am not surprised that the 'Dream Machines' rule the roost. If those vote numbers are genuine (11 votes for the winner) then it just goes to show how few people bother with these articles/features now, which is a total shame and totally against the idea of the modding comps in the first place, as aren't they supposed to increase interest?

But I will repeat, congratulations to the winners and to all those who had mods entered. The skills and professionalism on show is amazing and my opinions on the nature of the modding comps and community do not diminish the respect and awe that I feel for these projects and their creators.
Ronnie Hara 24th January 2014, 11:08 Quote
Many thanks to all who follow my work and help me. It is an honor and a big surprise for me. I have no words to express my happiness! I never imagined getting this far, really appreciate everyone who made this, it was not even a dream, because I really never thought one day I can win a competition of this size. Thank you all!
Meanmotion 24th January 2014, 11:10 Quote
Knew I should've labelled those. Those numbers are the votes from the 'judges' - the staff, essentially. The total reader votes were many more, thus them being presented as a percentage.
SchizoFrog 24th January 2014, 11:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meanmotion
Knew I should've labelled those. Those numbers are the votes from the 'judges' - the staff, essentially. The total reader votes were many more, thus them being presented as a percentage.

Ah, OK. Fair enough. I retract my comment about the numbers but the rest of it stands.
Meelobee 24th January 2014, 11:49 Quote
Congrats to the winners :)

Somehow the percentages or how they are calculated seem to be wrong, howcome Kier and Ronnie's builds both get 9% of reader votes while in the poll Kier has clearly way more votes?
Meanmotion 24th January 2014, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Meelobee
howcome Kier and Ronnie's builds both get 9% of reader votes while in the poll Kier has clearly way more votes?

Because we gave equal weighting to the forum poll as the Facebook poll. Then it was judge's decision for the final five. Apologies that this wasn't clear.
Meelobee 24th January 2014, 12:43 Quote
Ah there was another poll didn't know that.

Anyway congrats to all the winners and nominees, all very impressive builds! :)
Maki role 24th January 2014, 13:45 Quote
Congrats to the winners! Hopefully people won't be too mortified about their personal favourites a la every year.

I think this is one of the only times there hasn't been one project in particular that I found easy to vote for. There are just so many that really appeal to me, had to go for a few instead.
kier 24th January 2014, 14:11 Quote
Thank you FB voters and especially Bit-tech readers for the great support ;)
damien c 24th January 2014, 14:52 Quote
Congrats to the winners
itrush07 24th January 2014, 15:02 Quote
No doubt about it... Congratulations everyone.. Hope to see some new mods this 2014.
SchizoFrog 24th January 2014, 15:44 Quote
I'd like to see some builds of this quality with certain budgets associated to them for components and custom made parts. That would be really interesting to see what can be done with say £1000 with regards to the modding side of things and also the hardware within.
Gtek 24th January 2014, 16:24 Quote
Congratulations to the winners!
Maki role 24th January 2014, 17:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by SchizoFrog
I'd like to see some builds of this quality with certain budgets associated to them for components and custom made parts. That would be really interesting to see what can be done with say £1000 with regards to the modding side of things and also the hardware within.

I dunno, where does it end with that approach? Somebody who has access to an £50000 CNC may only spend £150 on their materials but output a design that would cost thousands for others to make. Would only material and component costs be covered, rather than tools? If that were the case, I don't see how it would make a difference to the overall standings. What about sponsorship? Should it then be cut down further so that those with sponsors only compete against other sponsored builds? The thing is, where do you draw the line even there? Some builds have motherboards, GPUs, all the WC gear sponsored, whilst others get a few fans.

When you start dividing all the categories, you end up with a million sub-competitions, which either just becomes confusing, or reduces the significance of the achievement.

Take my entry for instance. All in all it cost me under £300 from start to finish, that's a decently low figure. But I used a 3D printer owned by somebody else and was given the hardware by Bit-Tech and Intel. That would make it very difficult to class fairly as it crosses many boundaries. Sure it could go in a budget build section, but what about the person who invested a huge sum into a professional workshop and then only paid low materials costs? Their build is still only £300 but they invested far more into it than even the folks with the "dream build" status.

Sometimes it's just nice to keep things simple. That's what I love about the Bit-Tech MotY competition. It's a load of awesome builds, all with difference construction methods, styles and scales, thrown into one. Looking back at the winners throughout the years, I'd say things are pretty balanced.
Shirty 24th January 2014, 17:51 Quote
I think the rules should limit contestants to a single sheet of MDF, a single sheet of clear acrylic, and £50, plus the hardware of their choosing. No powered or computer controlled tools allowed. That would be a bizarre spectacle...

Anyway, hearty congrats to everyone who took part - top work by you all as ever.
SchizoFrog 24th January 2014, 18:17 Quote
Points taken Maki role and thanks for the honest and polite response. I guess I am just looking for something to inspire and educate me that isn't available, or at least not where I seem to be looking and it all leaves me feeling rather disheartened.
adamski07 24th January 2014, 18:19 Quote
Congrats to all the winners! :) just a bit disappointed that only one on my top 5 list made it to the last top 5. Anyway, goodjob to all who got nominated, you should be proud to be in the list. I hope to see you all again in 2014 MOTY. Thank you bit-tech for the oppurtunity. :)

adamski07
faxiij 24th January 2014, 18:24 Quote
Awesome. Swap first and second and I totally agree. Really a lot of great mods. Just can't be compared to a decade ago. Makes me happy to see so many mods I'd immediately put in my room if they'd be mine. Now I just to make one of my own some day.. :)
Mosquito 24th January 2014, 19:48 Quote
Guess I originally posted it in the wrong one to where I meant to...

Are the results from facebook voting going to be revealed? I'm curious now, since GwassGween didn't make it to the final judging, but had 2nd most votes here...
Kovoet 24th January 2014, 20:54 Quote
You know what they were all awesome cases. Well done guys
jrs77 24th January 2014, 22:01 Quote
Let's see... 3x Cosmos II in the top 5 and two other full-blown watercooled oversized rigs...

Just what you'd expect I guess, especiially when you use fakebook to draw attention. I wonder how many people advertised for this contest and made the people vote there.

Hopefully there'll be some changes to the MOTM and MOTY contests in 2014.

Last but not least, congratulations to the winners.
Combatus 24th January 2014, 22:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mosquito
Guess I originally posted it in the wrong one to where I meant to...

Are the results from facebook voting going to be revealed? I'm curious now, since GwassGween didn't make it to the final judging, but had 2nd most votes here...

Probably not - although if any nominees want to approach me to find out where they came I'd be happy to tell them. To a large extent there wasn't a massive difference between Facebook and forum vote percentages with the exception of a few projects. I think the 50/50 split worked well, though, as it gives the community here a much bigger say than it's had for a while.
Combatus 24th January 2014, 23:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
Let's see... 3x Cosmos II in the top 5 and two other full-blown watercooled oversized rigs...

Just what you'd expect I guess, especiially when you use fakebook to draw attention. I wonder how many people advertised for this contest and made the people vote there.

Hopefully there'll be some changes to the MOTM and MOTY contests in 2014.

Last but not least, congratulations to the winners.

This isn't just directed at you jrs77 but I don't think it's what you'd expect at all based on how and where we allowed people to vote alone. It's been an exciting year for water cooling with all kinds of new innovations so I'd have predicted a similar result based on that fact too and you only have to look at Ronnie's project log to see just how many people loved his project. I'm not saying any one the other projects didn't get equal praise but at least one person thought he'd win MOTY back then too.... Besides, we've had several air-cooled projects win in recent years, and that was with 100% public voting and no direct forum input.

Even the forum votes have big water-cooled systems as the top three but I was also a bit disappointed with the number of voters, as others have been - just 208 in the forum - we've had more than that in MOTM before now and it's not like we didn't advertise it. It's also important to realise that everyone has different tastes. Not everyone that voted was a modder, some may not have even heard of modding before, but everyone should be allowed to vote all the same. We can of course look at changing things but unless we know how people want it changed other than 'I think X should have won, this needs changing' we can't do a lot can we ;-)

I think we can all learn a lot from people that have won, but perhaps one guy in particular. Attila. He won twice, and came second last year. Were they all sponsored? No. Did he spend vast amounts of money making his projects? No. Were they all massive water-cooled PCs? No. Did he send parts out to be machine cut? No. Did he nominate himself for any of his MOTY or MOTM entries? No. I think that puts an end to any argument about price, water cooling, sponsorship or machining or whatever - you don't need them to win or even get noticed. Clearly he has some skills but if you don't, learn them. Get a Dremel, some files and a sheet of acrylic and shut yourself in a shed for a day. It won't happen overnight but then Rome wasn't built in a day...
jrs77 25th January 2014, 02:51 Quote
I allready raised my concerns in the thread for the MOTY-votings and there were alot of people having troubles with this so called "contest" for various reasons, not just me.

My biggest concern is that there's absolutely no rules whatsoever, and nobody enters on their own, but you need to get suggested by others. That doesn't qualify as a contest, but as an award.

And then, most of the builds in the top there are sponsored to begin with and I don't see a reason, why these builds should get awarded with additional prices to the sponsorings.

bit-tech should totally revamp the MOTM/MOTY and get rid of all the prices to start with and only make it an award people can be proud of.
Instead of giving out prices for MOTM/MOTY bit-tech should have more real contests with design, size or hardware-rules, etc.

Last but not least, I absolutely hate the inclusion of fakebook, as alot of nominees advertise for their builds in alot of forums and try to get people to vote on fakebook for their builds. And as it's easy enough to create a dozen fakebook-accounts, it's not a fair voting-process imho and heavily skewed.
I'd say that only bit-tech-members should be able to vote, who have been members for atleast a month and have a post-count of atleast 50. MOTM or MOTY are bit-tech community-awards afterall.

Everyone knows, that I personally dislike big watercooled rigs, but that has nothing to do with my above stated concerns about MOTM/MOTY.
However, the results show, especially the Dark Shining Star Cosmos II-mod, that big watercooled rigs with tons of money thrown at it attract alot of people, the wrong people if you ask me, especially if you include fakebook.
Dark Shining Star is a fully sponsored mod with only some 4 sheets of laser-cut aluminum and some pipebending. There's not even a real worklog, but only some 2 pages of final results shown. How this mod was even considered as a nominee is nowhere to understand, given that the amount of work gone in to this mod, including assembly is somewhere around as little as 20 hours. And ontop of the fully sponsored hardware the guy was using to build his mod he now get's additional prices for free with these few hours of work. BTW... he only got 10 votes in these forums, which would've put him in 5th place.... from the back that is!

Seeing that only some 200 people voted within these forums should be proof enough, that there's something seriously wrong with MOTM and MOTY these days.
So get rid of it and start doing more real contests, which would be a better platform for sponsors anyways.
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