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AlienwareAndy 30th December 2013, 18:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shirty
I'm of the opinion that if I don't like what someone has done, but it has no direct impact on my ability to continue living, breathing and functioning as normal, then I shut the **** up.

Offence fully intended to the whingers. Let these modders have their five minutes of fame for stuff that they've largely poured their heart and soul in to. Don't even dare to criticise other's work unless you are going to come forth with a MOTY candidate of your own.

It's a ****ing community isn't it?

Yes, it is a '****ing community' hence people should be allowed to have their say.

I'm not being nasty, just telling it how it is. Maybe there needs to be 'more of me' so to speak?

The bottom line here, on this forum, is that the mods that have been created by machinery and have £$£$£$£ of water cooling (or access to a 3D printer, what do they cost again? oh yeah !) are the ones that are nominated for awards.

Do you know what that does? it turns it into a ****ing sport for the rich to show off how much money they have and or how much expensive machinery they have access to.

If you can't see that? to be frank I don't care. That's how I see it, I'm a member of this community and thus am allowed to have a voice. Silence me? you'll **** this place beyond recognition (if it hasn't been already)
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Originally Posted by Asouter
You're all wrong, and all correct at the same time ...(apart from the pushing buttons comment lol)

It's about creativity (simples) doesn't matter which solution you come up with. Get you're ideas out there and do your own thing ....

All builds nominated rightly deserve their slot in MOTY...Congrats guys and I wish you all success :)

would have been nice to be nominated (dems the breaks) but at least I'm spared the voting process :D

again Good luck guys ..

Don't worry I'm totally with you. Your bike mod was a stroke of genius, and, mostly paid for by you. Why it isn't up for mod of the year?

Dammit sorry bro, you didn't spend enough money

I just wanted to thank you for making me feel more alive when I decide to make a custom cable, or put some vinyl over something to make it look better.

Realistic mods and builds don't exist here. It's just turned into a snobbish sport for the rich.
AlienwareAndy 30th December 2013, 18:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cheapskate
Is the CNC drama back?
I for one would never have been able to build GwassGween if I didn't have one. Some of the things done in these projects are impossible without the insane tolerances that a CNC is capable of.
I also would like to salute the machinists who have the balls to spend $30 on a single bit that could break if you breathe on it too heavy. Yes, there's a tiny bit of daredevil in hobby cnc operating.

My issue isn't with people that have thousands of pounds/dollars worth of tools.

It's that those who don't are completely and totally shoved to one side and ignored.

How many users here post personal rig blogs? oh yeah, they don't.
Meanmotion 30th December 2013, 19:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by AlienwareAndy
My issue isn't with people that have thousands of pounds/dollars worth of tools.

It's that those who don't are completely and totally shoved to one side and ignored.

Apart from the half dozen examples in this year's competition...

I see what you're all saying about money and access to equipment giving some an advantage but it's not an easy thing to correct for. The only way I can see to work it would be to have some sort of league/class system where we have, say, Elite, non-sponsored, non-CNC/laser cut, non-water cooled, etc. But exactly how you cut it would be up for continuous debate, and ultimately there would still be an overall winner, just as there's a product of the year, a film of the year or what have you.
Nexxo 30th December 2013, 20:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by AlienwareAndy
My issue isn't with people that have thousands of pounds/dollars worth of tools.

It's that those who don't are completely and totally shoved to one side and ignored.

How many users here post personal rig blogs? oh yeah, they don't.

I disagree. How many of the nominated projects have involved a CNC.or 3D printer (you can buy the latter for about $200,-- nowadays, BTW)? Seriously: count them. How many on a huge budget?

I don't have access to a workshop, let alone a CNC. I have some bits done through other forum members who do (Enak and Skyrip), and who have done bits for me at a very, very low price (compared to commercial companies). Other things can be accessed cheaply if you know where to look. A small garage will have a paint man who will spray your case cheaply (pick a colour that he is working with anyway, and he'll use the spare paint to do it at the end of a job, which will cost you practically nothing). You can get PCBs printed professionally by web order for a fiver --the software to design them is freely downloadable on the internet. Forum members will swap or offer spare parts. It doesn't have to cost lots of money. We have forum members here who have skills, access to industrial tools and are often happy to help. It's the community thing.

Modding is also about social engineering. :D There's a lot you can access if you know where to look.
Fizzban 30th December 2013, 21:18 Quote
Good job pissing over what should have been a positive thread folks. Well done.

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All the builds look amazing as always. Keep up the delicious modding peoples!
AlienwareAndy 30th December 2013, 22:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
I disagree. How many of the nominated projects have involved a CNC.or 3D printer (you can buy the latter for about $200,-- nowadays, BTW)? Seriously: count them. How many on a huge budget?

Have you looked in the CustomPC mag lately? It's always uber expensive rigs. It seems like people are only credited with things that cost a ton of money to produce.

The magazine encourages you to come to this forum. That's how I found my way here. Imagine my surprise when I go to the project logs section and find out they're all completely unrealistic to any one without a big bag of money sitting under their bed.

Where are the every day builds with small mods? where are the small mods? I would imagine many don't post their project logs here because they feel completely inferior. The entire Project Logs area of the forum seems to have this elite sort of snobbery about it. If you don't have a machine to make parts, or make the case entirely yourself from scratch, you don't deserve a look in.

To be honest I find those sorts of builds incredibly boring. "Oh look, I just got my custom res back that's been milled from a solid piece of plastic costing an arm and a leg and hey, it looks just like the picture I drew in 3d".

I have more fun looking through Linus' forum at the build log section and people building real computers. By real I mean accessible to most of us, instead of those with loads of money.

I get my ideas from people like me, who don't have a ton of money to throw around.
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
I don't have access to a workshop, let alone a CNC. I have some bits done through other forum members who do (Enak and Skyrip), and who have done bits for me at a very, very low price (compared to commercial companies). Other things can be accessed cheaply if you know where to look. A small garage will have a paint man who will spray your case cheaply (pick a colour that he is working with anyway, and he'll use the spare paint to do it at the end of a job, which will cost you practically nothing). You can get PCBs printed professionally by web order for a fiver --the software to design them is freely downloadable on the internet. Forum members will swap or offer spare parts. It doesn't have to cost lots of money. We have forum members here who have skills, access to industrial tools and are often happy to help. It's the community thing.

Modding is also about social engineering. :D There's a lot you can access if you know where to look.

So you've had parts of your build done by others. And you're happy with that? Why on earth would I want some one else to paint my case?

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=211969&highlight=nfenix

Is a mod build I did. I made/painted/etc every last single part of it myself. Was it perfect? haha it couldn't have been further away but hey, at least I did it all. Some bits of it left quite a bit to be desired but at the end of the day that's what you'll get from some one limited by budget. I would rather see one of that kind of build than 50 of these machine made inch perfect machines.

It's kind of like Top Gear, and why I think it's so poo now that I don't watch it. Years ago they used to test a variety of cars, cheap and expensive. Now? lol it's nothing but them driving million dollar cars and rubbing it in their watcher's faces.

When you make your audience feel like they're not a part of your show, and alienate them by rubbing things in their face that they will never even sit next to, let alone in?

It gets really boring.
bawjaws 30th December 2013, 22:55 Quote
Congratulations to all of the nominees, and best of luck to you all in the voting! ;)

It's also a shame to see sniping and moaning from those trying to put a downer on things. This community seems to be getting more and more negative recently, which is a massive pity as it's normally a source of positivity and inspiration. Let's turn it round for 2014 :D
Meelobee 30th December 2013, 23:05 Quote
@ Andy

You should vote for me! :p

But as one of the modders without any of the fancy equipment or a big list of sponsors I have to disagree with you. Sure it's hard to get the same level of detail as some of the mods that have access to cnc's and lasers, or to the same level of attention mods with big sponsoring get (People love to watch fancy hardware) but it's not impossible. People still love original idea's and builds and it really doesn't matter how they're made, it's the creativity that counts (or at least thats what should count)
Both of my finished builds are completely handmade, and both have got alot of attention here on bt forum and elsewere.
Nexxo 30th December 2013, 23:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by AlienwareAndy
Where are the every day builds with small mods? where are the small mods? I would imagine many don't post their project logs here because they feel completely inferior. The entire Project Logs area of the forum seems to have this elite sort of snobbery about it. If you don't have a machine to make parts, or make the case entirely yourself from scratch, you don't deserve a look in.
I must say that is not the impression that I get. I see tidy, small hand built and low budget projects like Slipperyskip's Flightline, Phame's Golden Wet Pi, Maki Role's Vesper, Junior, the Microprocessor, Cosmos II The Privilege. I also see projects like Zoe, which is fully handmade, with some recycled hardware and for me the best mod I've seen all year.

I also see mods in the Modding forum. This is simply a category issue: if it is not a whole build, it is not a project log and ends up in this forum. But I've had some of my best ideas from there.
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Originally Posted by AlienwareAndy
So you've had parts of your build done by others. And you're happy with that? Why on earth would I want some one else to paint my case?
Who painted your custom cars? I'm sure you did --because you had the tools and skills. Probably access to a garage. Does that mean that someone who does not should just take out a brush and make do? Are they allowed a high standard finish, even if they do not have the skill and tools to do it themselves? You argue it's unfair if people can just throw money at a project, but isn't it equally unfair if people can throw workshops with tools at it? You probably bought off-the-shelf engine and body modding parts; can't imagine you cast you own alloy wheels or welded your own big-bore stainless exhaust manifold. Isn't that cheating a bit?

I'd have been happier if I had a CNC rig and the skills to use it, but you know: budgetary constraints. How nice then that helpful forum members allowed me access to that technology. But I also made a dual-CPU water cooled rig in the days when water cooling was just moving beyond ghetto status. I made parts myself. I used car parts and drink dispenser components, and good old plumbing bits. Been there, done it. Still doing it, in fact --experimenting with an Arduino and nixie tubes rather than buying an off-the-shelf solution.

You argue that money discounts the achievements of those who haven't got any. I could argue that you dismiss people's imagination and creativity if they needed commercial resources to realise it. OK: Build your own motherboard and GPU, your own water blocks, your own pump, your own PSU. Then come back to me. Or do we all rely on some off the shelf parts? Where do we draw the line as to what is acceptable?



EDIT: saw your project (very nice!), noted the sponsor. You were saying?
Pranja 31st December 2013, 01:35 Quote
I really can't understand people that are complaining about how they not been nominated.
Why are you modding? Because you love to mod or because some nominations/prizes?

Every finished project is reward by itself. If you only care about nominations and prizes, perhaps it is time for you to stop modding.

The end.
AlienwareAndy 31st December 2013, 02:42 Quote
I painted my cars in a barn with a $20 harbor freight gun. :D
JessePalacio 31st December 2013, 05:44 Quote
i mod with just a home made scoring knife, a dying 5 year old cigar torch a cheap rotary and barely any money at all.. i think doesnt matter how you execute your plans. the output is what matters.

someday i'll make it to this elite list. congrats all nominees! happy new years!
walle 31st December 2013, 08:20 Quote
Congrats to all the nominees and best of luck in the competition.

;)
Attila 31st December 2013, 09:47 Quote
Congrats to all the nominees.


Four days in and a measly 59 voters.

Right at this minute there are over 400 members viewing the forums and the same number at about this time yesterday. That's just now. There must be thousands of members who have visited the forums since the comp went up. It seems most people (including many modders) are just not that interested in MOTY. Even if a lot of peeps have checked out the article, very few can be bothered to vote. And this at a time when it hasn't been easier to cast a vote. I still remember the good old days when over three thousand people cast a vote for their favorite mod.

A little sad really. :(
kier 31st December 2013, 10:15 Quote
I'm not that old ;) and also only about 4 years now in the modding scene, so I dont know how it was in the past.
But it sounds much better then nowadays :(
slipperyskip 31st December 2013, 11:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by Attila
Congrats to all the nominees.


Four days in and a measly 59 voters.

Right at this minute there are over 400 members viewing the forums and the same number at about this time yesterday. That's just now. There must be thousands of members who have visited the forums since the comp went up. It seems most people (including many modders) are just not that interested in MOTY. Even if a lot of peeps have checked out the article, very few can be bothered to vote. And this at a time when it hasn't been easier to cast a vote. I still remember the good old days when over three thousand people cast a vote for their favorite mod.

A little sad really. :(

Agreed but I have yet to find a link to the voting page from the article...or anywhere else. I found the voting page because I knew where to look. Am I missing something?

Edit: Fixed!
Fizzban 31st December 2013, 11:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Attila
Congrats to all the nominees.


Four days in and a measly 59 voters.

Right at this minute there are over 400 members viewing the forums and the same number at about this time yesterday. That's just now. There must be thousands of members who have visited the forums since the comp went up. It seems most people (including many modders) are just not that interested in MOTY. Even if a lot of peeps have checked out the article, very few can be bothered to vote. And this at a time when it hasn't been easier to cast a vote. I still remember the good old days when over three thousand people cast a vote for their favorite mod.

A little sad really. :(

It is a little sad. But worryingly most of the members logged in right now have names like dfydtyfgjh and sdrthsdfgkv. Are they are spam accounts? I think they must be as most of them were made today. Looks like the mods are gonna be busy lol
Nexxo 31st December 2013, 11:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by AlienwareAndy
I painted my cars in a barn with a $20 harbor freight gun. :D

You have a barn? Lucky sod. I have a square meter of floor in a study. By the way, cast your own alloys? Made your own body panels? Milled your own engine blocks?
Nexxo 31st December 2013, 11:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Attila
Congrats to all the nominees.


Four days in and a measly 59 voters.

Right at this minute there are over 400 members viewing the forums and the same number at about this time yesterday. That's just now. There must be thousands of members who have visited the forums since the comp went up. It seems most people (including many modders) are just not that interested in MOTY. Even if a lot of peeps have checked out the article, very few can be bothered to vote. And this at a time when it hasn't been easier to cast a vote. I still remember the good old days when over three thousand people cast a vote for their favorite mod.

A little sad really. :(

I'm thinking, I'm thinking. It's hard to choose!
Meelobee 31st December 2013, 11:39 Quote
Howcome there is no topic or link to the MOTY in the project log section of the forum?
Kovoet 31st December 2013, 13:22 Quote
Got to be guilty just loved that detailing and neat work. But in saying that, they are all damn good.
Waynio 31st December 2013, 14:39 Quote
Thanks for the nomination bit-tech & all the best for 2014 everyone. :)





Mood of the year 2013, go on then Andy you can be the wiener. :p
Primum Agmen 31st December 2013, 15:46 Quote
Damn that's a tough choice. Model 01 just because it's a stupidly well built scratch build, methinks.

Always nice to be spoilt for choice.
TekLord 31st December 2013, 16:01 Quote
With so many great builds, it was really hard to narrow my choices down. Great builds, every last one of them. Good luck to all.
23RO_UK 31st December 2013, 17:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Attila
Congrats to all the nominees.


Four days in and a measly 59 voters.

Right at this minute there are over 400 members viewing the forums and the same number at about this time yesterday. That's just now. There must be thousands of members who have visited the forums since the comp went up. It seems most people (including many modders) are just not that interested in MOTY. Even if a lot of peeps have checked out the article, very few can be bothered to vote. And this at a time when it hasn't been easier to cast a vote. I still remember the good old days when over three thousand people cast a vote for their favorite mod.

A little sad really. :(


Dare I say it Attila, it's a sign of the times; the b*tching and sniping from an outsiders point of view can be somewhat off putting however justified some of it may be.

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Originally Posted by kier
I'm not that old ;) and also only about 4 years now in the modding scene, so I dont know how it was in the past.
But it sounds much better then nowadays :(


kier in the past bit-tech WAS a community, nowadays it's just groups of individuals and cliques all under the same roof; quite sad really as it used to be the pinnacle of UK modding.
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