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Phobya Design a Case Competition - Stage 2

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M7ck 8th February 2011, 19:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
14th February.

Very fitting date as I luuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrvvvvvvvvvv some of these designs.
IvanIvanovich 8th February 2011, 19:19 Quote
some nice and interesting design concepts, but i always am left wondering, why are they always so freaking over sized giant cases? there have to be more people than just me that are entirely put off by large tower size.
so after my complaint, i prefer the following in order:
II, Dominus, Proteus, Phobya Gladio.
all of them still have little niggles that bother me though, besides just the size.
confusis 8th February 2011, 19:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by lysol
some nice and interesting design concepts, but i always am left wondering, why are they always so freaking over sized giant cases? there have to be more people than just me that are entirely put off by large tower size.
so after my complaint, i prefer the following in order:
II, Dominus, Proteus, Phobya Gladio.
all of them still have little niggles that bother me though, besides just the size.

I wouldn't call mine oversized?
subtec 8th February 2011, 20:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by lysol
some nice and interesting design concepts, but i always am left wondering, why are they always so freaking over sized giant cases? there have to be more people than just me that are entirely put off by large tower size.
so after my complaint, i prefer the following in order:
II, Dominus, Proteus, Phobya Gladio.
all of them still have little niggles that bother me though, besides just the size.

Even though my design is fairly large, I actually agree with you. Personally, I prefer smaller cases, and usually I stick to small form-factor designs.

I think though, what comes up when you're trying to design a case specifically for watercooling, is that you quickly realize it's hard to come up with something that hasn't already been done. There are already quite a few cases on the market that will handle a couple of radiators internally, or can be easily modded to do so. There are only so many configurations that work well, and most of them have been done.

Another point is that watercooling takes up a lot of space; the rads, pumps, and reservoirs take up a lot of extra room on top of the space needed for drive bays and power supply. The TJ07 is arranged pretty efficiently, but it's still fairly large. Its 240+360 (+/-120) rad support was what I considered the baseline for number of rads in a proper "watercooling case." There's an argument to be made for a smaller watercooled case, IMO, but there's so much "you need a quad+triple rad to handle that hardware" sort of posts floating around on enthusiast forums that it seems like a case with just a 360 rad, say, would be overlooked by a lot of people.

Considering what I managed to fit in my design (the SR-2 is a huge board, you don't realize how big until you see it next to a standard ATX mb), it's pretty efficiently packaged. It does trade off some drive bays for big rads and dual PSUs, but overall, for something smaller than an 800D it's not bad. Actually, I think it wouldn't be too hard to scale it down a bit, dropping the SR-2 and dual PSU support, along with smaller rads.
Xtrafresh 8th February 2011, 20:29 Quote
I decided to only cast 1 vote, to emphasise how much better then the rest i like the design.

Roboduck, Ixmatal and Confusis, you guys missed out on my vote. You should blame GuilleAcoustic though. The Monolith is by far the most specialised, inventive and original design of the bunch. I can't believe how few votes it has. To compensate slightly, it's gets my only vote.
GuilleAcoustic 8th February 2011, 20:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by subtec
Even though my design is fairly large, I actually agree with you. Personally, I prefer smaller cases, and usually I stick to small form-factor designs.

I think though, what comes up when you're trying to design a case specifically for watercooling, is that you quickly realize it's hard to come up with something that hasn't already been done. There are already quite a few cases on the market that will handle a couple of radiators internally, or can be easily modded to do so. There are only so many configurations that work well, and most of them have been done.

Another point is that watercooling takes up a lot of space; the rads, pumps, and reservoirs take up a lot of extra room on top of the space needed for drive bays and power supply. The TJ07 is arranged pretty efficiently, but it's still fairly large. Its 240+360 (+/-120) rad support was what I considered the baseline for number of rads in a proper "watercooling case." There's an argument to be made for a smaller watercooled case, IMO, but there's so much "you need a quad+triple rad to handle that hardware" sort of posts floating around on enthusiast forums that it seems like a case with just a 360 rad, say, would be overlooked by a lot of people.

Considering what I managed to fit in my design (the SR-2 is a huge board, you don't realize how big until you see it next to a standard ATX mb), it's pretty efficiently packaged. It does trade off some drive bays for big rads and dual PSUs, but overall, for something smaller than an 800D it's not bad. Actually, I think it wouldn't be too hard to scale it down a bit, dropping the SR-2 and dual PSU support, along with smaller rads.

True, so true. That's what lead me to my design, even if I didn't manage to make it as small as I wanted. I'm still pretty happy with the result since it is not that big (87L, about the same size than Mick64 case). The case is about 50% wider than normal case, but it is 50% shorter too.

But as someone already said ... it is subjective and all taste have to be fed :D.

Maybe I should have stick with microATX design (I managed 50L case with 2 triple 140mm rad). Eveything is about choice, I made mine

Anyway, good luck to everyone and whatever happens, this was a very nice adventure
subtec 8th February 2011, 20:48 Quote
FWIW, Guille, I like your design a lot and tend to agree with Xtrafresh in regards to its originality and clearly WC-oriented design. You really put in a lot of work and it really came together well in round 2. I only cast one vote last round (not for myself :p), and I haven't yet decided if I'll vote this round, but if I do, yours will be it, I think.
Roboduck 8th February 2011, 20:52 Quote
Guille got one of my votes ;). I used all 5 of my votes (didn't vote for myself) and I wish I had more. I would really like to see a number of these designs go into production.
GuilleAcoustic 8th February 2011, 21:19 Quote
@Xtrafresh, subtec, roboduck : Thanks guys. I used my 5 votes too, and it was hard to pick only 5 designs.
andy_mcp1 8th February 2011, 22:34 Quote
Wow!!! All amazingly cool (no pun intended) designs, though have to admit Razer and Roboduck's cases are edging ahead as my joint top favourites, really look the part and can see them being very commercially viable! If it wasn’t for the itch to build my own I'd definitely consider buying either of those two cases! Now the issue is who to vote for the other three positions, d*mn near impossible to choose if you ask me...
ĿªЪяεġø™ 8th February 2011, 23:58 Quote
Didn't make the effort that I really want to put on this contest , maybe because I couldn't balance studies with designs so make this contest an annual thing (as someone already said) .. giving the chance to elaborate a design for a full year it's less stressful and then on the last month , start a discussion to change little details and to change some ideas ;) that would be nice , just because I've so little time to work in designs like this one ;)
Freddy_95 9th February 2011, 00:25 Quote
Labrego my friend you have my vote :)

Cumpts,

Freddy
JA12 9th February 2011, 02:44 Quote
I don't like any of them so not hard at all :D
One of those I might buy but others, don't care.
Waynio 9th February 2011, 03:08 Quote
For me I like these the most because they are a step away from the norm while not being too extreme to make.
Phobya Aurora by Confusis (they might have trouble manufacturing this though but I like it but if it's acrylic it'll be nothing thermo forming couldn't do ;))
Phobya Gladio by Razer2007
II by Roboduck
Black Owl by SnowyOwl (they might have trouble manufacturing this though but I like it)
Dominus by Subtec
yoishiro 9th February 2011, 03:13 Quote
Dominus by Subtec

its the most simplistic and "Normal" of them all LOL , instant sell , even for someone who doesnt like Watercooling .

imagine the case , painted "Gunmetal black outside" and inside "Black" .... OMG ... or ... with Urban Camouflage ... O M F G !!!!
jprykov 9th February 2011, 14:41 Quote
I really like them all seriously! i will definetely buy one or 2 cases for my projects! Good luck and remember you are all winners in this event! :)
GuilleAcoustic 9th February 2011, 15:00 Quote
We have 6 potential finalist, that is very close ;)
Razer2007 9th February 2011, 15:17 Quote
I can't believe Dominus moved from 1st to 4th!!!
GuilleAcoustic 9th February 2011, 15:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Razer2007
I can't believe Dominus moved from 1st to 4th!!!

Vote will end the 14th, things can still change. Close match between you and Confusis.

I don't think I will make it to stage 3, but this competion was trully fun and I learned a lot from all those exchange.

EDIT : I'm truly considering building Monolith, updated and slightly different, far away from the stress, so keep an eye opened

EDIT² : Thanks to all who helped me to give birth to Monolith, and thanks to all who voted for me
SnowyOwl 9th February 2011, 16:06 Quote
Things are moving really fast and there is still 6 days left.... at some point you were not even in the top 5 Razer that would have been a shame...but then again they would all deserve to move to the next stage....

Funny thing you are getting seriously challenged by your own render...this honnors you my friend he would not be there without you;)
GuilleAcoustic 9th February 2011, 16:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by SnowyOwl
Funny thing you are getting seriously challenged by your own render...this honnors you my friend he would not be there without you;)

So true, this is being very interesting. Whoever win, a great case will born.

EDIT : What would be awesome is that each case come to life (by their designer or not). If I build Monolith I think I'll spend a lot of time here asking about how to make this or that and advise about watercooling, since I never modded, scratch build or watercooled ... well my fishes were watercooled but I bet that doesn't count :D
Roboduck 9th February 2011, 16:37 Quote
SnowyOwl with the runaway lead ;)

I knew it was going to be close but this is nerve racking
GuilleAcoustic 9th February 2011, 17:03 Quote
I so agree with you ... yesterday I was pressing F5 every 30s :(
sheriff_deadeye 9th February 2011, 17:23 Quote
is there something i need to do to enable voting?

"You cannot vote in this poll"

thanks
Zesti 9th February 2011, 19:17 Quote
All the designs are cool, but there's only one that I'd really like to have on my desk. Soo.. I voted Dominus - it's quite a compact, beautiful, practical and very nice attention to the details. I also gave votes for Monolith and Aurora, because those design are original but still very practical and it would be nice to see them on stage 3.
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