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How to build a touchscreen all-in-one PC

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Landy_Ed 9th July 2010, 09:58 Quote
"propitiatory" software? you sure that's the right word?
Stotherd-001 9th July 2010, 10:11 Quote
Where can you get that monitor in the uk?
Bindibadgi 9th July 2010, 10:11 Quote
It's meant to be proprietary.

Stotherd-001 - You can't unfortunately. Albatron is predominantly licensing the tech to other companies, but I've not been told if anyone else will use it to sell to consumers atm. We were just using it as a bit of a fun tech demo.
proxess 9th July 2010, 10:12 Quote
Ghetto mods. The best ones.
dackroyd 9th July 2010, 10:13 Quote
"The controller board is tiny. Click to enlarge"

was this intentional?
Hamfunk 9th July 2010, 10:28 Quote
I was expecting a nifty iPad alternative.... kind of disappointed!
crazyceo 9th July 2010, 10:41 Quote
Who would honestly want the restrictions of an iPad on an all in one system? iPad = major disappointment

I think you've done a great job with what you had to play with. How was the responsiveness on the touch screen in comparison to other more expensive all in ones on the market?
Bindibadgi 9th July 2010, 11:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
Who would honestly want the restrictions of an iPad on an all in one system? iPad = major disappointment

I think you've done a great job with what you had to play with. How was the responsiveness on the touch screen in comparison to other more expensive all in ones on the market?

Instant. It's optical and a simple calculation between two sensors so as soon as it sees your finger it relays that to the OS. Right now Win 7 gets confused when you use more than 1 finger, but Albatron's software could do the multi-touch stuff - rotate, resize etc.
crazyceo 9th July 2010, 11:34 Quote
Sweet!
rickysio 9th July 2010, 11:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
Who would honestly want the restrictions of an iPad on an all in one system? iPad = major disappointment

I think you've done a great job with what you had to play with. How was the responsiveness on the touch screen in comparison to other more expensive all in ones on the market?

What restriction? Nothing's stopping you from directly hooking up a keyboard and a mouse - unlike the iPad.
Hamfunk 9th July 2010, 12:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
Who would honestly want the restrictions of an iPad on an all in one system? iPad = major disappointment

I think you've done a great job with what you had to play with. How was the responsiveness on the touch screen in comparison to other more expensive all in ones on the market?

I'm not saying i like iPads or even want one, but from the article title and i initially thought it was about a custom made iPad alternative!

Nice little set up although i dont see it as something i would get much real use out of.
Guinevere 9th July 2010, 12:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
iPad = major disappointment

I wish people would just take a chill-pill with their moaning about the iPad. It's just a gadget after all, it's designed to fit a segment and so what if it doesn't do everything you want it to (It doesn't do everything I would want it too either) so just don't buy it and wait for something that fits your needs and/or desires.

Sheesh

PS. I'm not defending the iPad, I don't have one.
Guinevere 9th July 2010, 12:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by rickysio
Nothing's stopping you from directly hooking up a keyboard and a mouse - unlike the iPad.

You can hook up a keyboard to the iPad, and a small point but iOS isn't a mouse aware OS. It's been designed to be a touch based OS so mouse support would be a bad idea without major changes and how would those changes compromise touch control?

I wonder if we'll soon see an OS that is equally at home under mouse control as it is touch. There isn't one yet.
Jipa 9th July 2010, 13:09 Quote
Goes to show just easy it can be to make one of these. Also I think touch screens are useless on desktop use. Sure, there are some specific tasks/uses where they may be helpful, but in general it's just awfully awkward to touch the screen in the first place, let alone try to actually get something done that way.
Landy_Ed 9th July 2010, 13:44 Quote
@Jipa, that's more to do with habits than anything else. put a 3 year old in front of it and you'll see things from a different perspective.
wuyanxu 9th July 2010, 13:55 Quote
fantastic mod, very nicely done with very good looking finishing touches :P

but i can't feel the need to touch my desktop monitor, i only feel the need to touch my netbook. so next challenge: touch netbook :)
Omnituens 9th July 2010, 13:59 Quote
I was expecting something like the pads they used on Stargate Atlantis.
Jipa 9th July 2010, 14:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Landy_Ed
@Jipa, that's more to do with habits than anything else. put a 3 year old in front of it and you'll see things from a different perspective.

That's pretty much exactly what I meant with what I said. Educational purpose, in my books, falls in the "specific purpose/use" category. Also it may be just the thing to keep 3-year old occupied for ages, but for actual work/use it's useless.

If you want to try what I mean, cover your screen with cardboard, sit normally like you would when using the computer and spend half an hour drawing and writing accurately on the cardboard. It gets pretty hard pretty soon. And if you're still going to mainly rely on the keyboard and mouse, why bother with the touch screen in the first place?

Special solutions for special needs.
ModaRobby 9th July 2010, 17:55 Quote
Very nice. I've never even seen that motherboard. I may pick one up for the HTPC I've been meaning to put together. Love the concept though. Entertained me at work for a good 20 minutes. ;)
Sea Shadow 9th July 2010, 18:08 Quote
I'm pretty sure that the cameras in Microsoft Surface solutions don't use cameras that see the heat from your finger, just IR light around the 800-950nm range. After all, the systems are heavily pitched with their object recognition based on the IR tags that are affixed to devices, and the tags (stickers) don't put out heat but are easily capable of reflecting IR light from below. I believe it is a DI (diffused illumination setup) with the 5 cameras, where there is an IR source in the enclosure, and the cameras have color filters to only allow IR light. Actually it is not all that difficult to build a similar system. Nearly 3 years ago I had a simple multi-touch system running at home that was quite similar to the technology behind Surface, but I only used 1 camera instead of 5.
Bakes 9th July 2010, 18:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sea Shadow
I'm pretty sure that the cameras in Microsoft Surface solutions don't use cameras that see the heat from your finger, just IR light around the 800-950nm range. After all, the systems are heavily pitched with their object recognition based on the IR tags that are affixed to devices, and the tags (stickers) don't put out heat but are easily capable of reflecting IR light from below. I believe it is a DI (diffused illumination setup) with the 5 cameras, where there is an IR source in the enclosure, and the cameras have color filters to only allow IR light. Actually it is not all that difficult to build a similar system. Nearly 3 years ago I had a simple multi-touch system running at home that was quite similar to the technology behind Surface, but I only used 1 camera instead of 5.

Yes, using FLIR cameras would be far too expensive - you're talking $3-4k per camera at least, with a low resolution.

Microsoft might have made some bad decisions in the past, but they aren't that dumb.
The_Beast 9th July 2010, 18:36 Quote
pretty sweet mod, I think they make itx sized boxes that mount on the back of monitor Versa (?) holes
REDDEVIL-UK1 9th July 2010, 18:46 Quote
i want go go gadget arms!!!!!!!
mrbens 9th July 2010, 19:07 Quote
It's not really a 'touch-screen' if you don't actually have to touch the screen!

Joking aside this sounds great, and I hate fingerprints on things so just moving your finger close enough for the sensor but not touching the screen sounds better to me. :)
RichCreedy 9th July 2010, 21:37 Quote
when reading webpages that are bigger than your screen, touch is useful.
try a touchscreen in bad company 2 on the kit selection screen, its so easy, lol.

does anyone read gizmo online mag, turning pages makes it feel like a real magazine, well almost anyway, lol
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