I know that you can't do what I want to do with a three wire fan, + - and rpm monitor.
The difference is, the Enermax fans come with 5 wires. A regular 3 pin plug with the+ - and rpm monitor wire. The other two wires are connected to a small potentiometer that controlls fan speed. It won't turn the fan all the way off, but goes from like a low speed to full speed and anything in between. This is where I would cut off the Enermax potemtiometer and connect it's wires to the rheobus to achieve fan speed control (if it would work). The 3 pin wire would connect to the Digital Doc and give me power, rpm monitoring and the ability to not have the fan come on until a set temperature is reached and go off when is gets below the set temp. Then while it's on, I can further control the speed with the rheobus, all without opening my case.
Make any more sense now?
I'll take a digital photo of one of the Enermax fans and send it to your e-mail so you can see what I mean.
Thanks for your help - I know just enough about this stuff to be dangerous, I just don't want to fry something.
are the pots in this baybus the push on push off?? which have 6 leges on them and not 3 like are shown in the electrobus he only shows a every day pot w/ a 3 way switch
The pots are from http://rswww.com part no.377-4782.
The pinouts are as follows looking from behind. http://bit-tech.net/macroman/pinoutb.gif
1=CCW connects to R1
2=Wiper
3=CW connects to R2
4+5= Switch which is connected in series with the +v feed output to the fan.
6=Not used in circuit
Nice case and all Macroman, curious to the small 40mm fans on the back, how much noise do they produce, the experience i've had with such small fans is a noise that'll make you tear the hair from your head after a while. Manufacturers quote small db's but the high pitch whine they create the neglect to mention. If anyone knows of 40mm "quiet" fans and where in the UK i could get some, that'd be real sweet.
The 40mm fans are Y.S. Tech FD1240105S-1A
They are not very loud but you can always put them on a bay bus to quieten them is you want. TBH I don't think they are worth fitting since they don't actually bring any real benefit.
I was wondering what beneft they had, they look funky though and at the right kinda level to carry the warm air out from my rad so i may just squeeze a few in. Thanks for replying macro, most appreciated.
I'm having a horrible time trying to find those potentiometers. :( The ones from http://rswww.com, part number 377-4782. Neither RS Components nor any of its distributors will sell to the USA. The part is made by Meggitt Electronic Components (MEC) and its manfucaturer part number is 17PCSA103MC19P. The tech spec can be had here. However, everywhere I look locally looks at me crazy when I ask for a push button pot and seem bewildered when I show them the printed spec. Searching google has not come up with anywhere that sells this part, nor any parts that provide the same functionality.
If you know of a place that can ship this switch to me in the USA or you live in the UK and would be willing to buy this switch and send it to me, please post here or email me (natedone@hotmail.com).
First off, nice mods.
Second, have recently purchased PC60 and am in process of modding it myself. (Possibly use some of ur tips ;) )
Third, was looking at castors aswell, but became unsure on the one positioned under the mobo tray, did u just drill a new hole away from the slide rail?
Forth, looking at making Rheostat, but will discuss when time comes to making.
This work is an inspiration! Although I've years (too many it might be said!) experience of PC building, I'm new to the modding scene. For me "quality" is what counts and I've found it at Bit-tech.
A question, if I may: How would you tackle a Pioneer slot drive if one was fitted to the Macro Case?
I have a PC60 etc and in my newbie status I had thought of something like a CoolerMaster aluminium front with a hinged draw flap (instead of attached to anything), but after fitting one to a standard tray-loader I've gone off the idea.:(
I've seen a stealth mod using a Lian-Li bay cover on another site (sorry - I looked!) but wondered how it would be approached from here.
Ahh, yes thanks. That certainly does look the neatest I've seen. I think I'll be going in that direction. I'll break out the drill and coping saw this weekend!
By the way, do you find the CD drives get hot being next to one another? In my configuration I'll have (from top to bottom) Eksitdata fan control, Matrix Orbital 2-line display, slot DVD drive and then a Teac CD-RW. I know most people worry about temps in other parts of the kit but memory reminds me these units can get warm too.
Here's an idea... Why not attach the new CD facia, with it's neat new slot, to the back inside of the Lian-li or Coolermaster front panel? That way if you change your mind it's no problem re-using the drive as there's nothing attached to it, and if we still use sticky pads there's still enough movement to activate the eject button. Put the pads at the top half of the bezel only... The way to go would be not to cut off the side plates of the bezel completely but leave eough to bend at 90-degrees outwards to form attachment points. I think I'll do it this way with my newly cut slot facia (took me a couple of hours, on and off, yesterday).
:)
Ah!! Thank you TimS. Marvellous! A breath of fresh air. This mod is still my favourite, most practical, most mostest... And it was what put me on to Lian-Li in the first place, and all those possibilities.
My current PC is in a Lian-Li (PC-7 Plus) too, and undergoing gentle, hopefully stylish, mods. To see this article again refreshes my imagination! :)
Cheers Tim and the team for bringing this one back. I remember this way back then and it was a fantastic sight to behold and it's still not really dated.
Practical and well finished without being over-stated, a true classic.
4 years after bit-tech and this mod and i arrive, and it shows i missed soo much in those years. Very nice and clean looking mod. Shows how simple mods can look good.
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You are right in everything that you pointed out.
I know that you can't do what I want to do with a three wire fan, + - and rpm monitor.
The difference is, the Enermax fans come with 5 wires. A regular 3 pin plug with the+ - and rpm monitor wire. The other two wires are connected to a small potentiometer that controlls fan speed. It won't turn the fan all the way off, but goes from like a low speed to full speed and anything in between. This is where I would cut off the Enermax potemtiometer and connect it's wires to the rheobus to achieve fan speed control (if it would work). The 3 pin wire would connect to the Digital Doc and give me power, rpm monitoring and the ability to not have the fan come on until a set temperature is reached and go off when is gets below the set temp. Then while it's on, I can further control the speed with the rheobus, all without opening my case.
Make any more sense now?
I'll take a digital photo of one of the Enermax fans and send it to your e-mail so you can see what I mean.
Thanks for your help - I know just enough about this stuff to be dangerous, I just don't want to fry something.
Jerry
Will there be a guide showing how to make such a cool fanbus?
If yes; when will it be out?
Charos
Welcome to the forums! :D
the article u are looking for is:
http://www.bit-tech.net/article/52/
HTH
BiGGiE :D
But I mean the fanbus of Macros Case:
http://bit-tech.net/article/35/8
How was this done?
Charos
its the electrobus in the article I pointed you to
The pinouts are as follows looking from behind.
http://bit-tech.net/macroman/pinoutb.gif
1=CCW connects to R1
2=Wiper
3=CW connects to R2
4+5= Switch which is connected in series with the +v feed output to the fan.
6=Not used in circuit
This pot replaces the one used in this circuit.
http://www.bit-tech.net/article/52/5
They are not very loud but you can always put them on a bay bus to quieten them is you want. TBH I don't think they are worth fitting since they don't actually bring any real benefit.
What size bolts did you use to mount them Macro?
If you know of a place that can ship this switch to me in the USA or you live in the UK and would be willing to buy this switch and send it to me, please post here or email me (natedone@hotmail.com).
Thanks!
:'(
Update:
Found the parts at Arrow Electronics and Mouser.
Second, have recently purchased PC60 and am in process of modding it myself. (Possibly use some of ur tips ;) )
Third, was looking at castors aswell, but became unsure on the one positioned under the mobo tray, did u just drill a new hole away from the slide rail?
Forth, looking at making Rheostat, but will discuss when time comes to making.
A question, if I may: How would you tackle a Pioneer slot drive if one was fitted to the Macro Case?
I have a PC60 etc and in my newbie status I had thought of something like a CoolerMaster aluminium front with a hinged draw flap (instead of attached to anything), but after fitting one to a standard tray-loader I've gone off the idea.:(
I've seen a stealth mod using a Lian-Li bay cover on another site (sorry - I looked!) but wondered how it would be approached from here.
Thanks!
Here's one method http://www.bit-tech.net/article/85/3
By the way, do you find the CD drives get hot being next to one another? In my configuration I'll have (from top to bottom) Eksitdata fan control, Matrix Orbital 2-line display, slot DVD drive and then a Teac CD-RW. I know most people worry about temps in other parts of the kit but memory reminds me these units can get warm too.
Here's an idea... Why not attach the new CD facia, with it's neat new slot, to the back inside of the Lian-li or Coolermaster front panel? That way if you change your mind it's no problem re-using the drive as there's nothing attached to it, and if we still use sticky pads there's still enough movement to activate the eject button. Put the pads at the top half of the bezel only... The way to go would be not to cut off the side plates of the bezel completely but leave eough to bend at 90-degrees outwards to form attachment points. I think I'll do it this way with my newly cut slot facia (took me a couple of hours, on and off, yesterday).
http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2007/12/30/macro_case/1
Ah!! Thank you TimS. Marvellous! A breath of fresh air. This mod is still my favourite, most practical, most mostest... And it was what put me on to Lian-Li in the first place, and all those possibilities.
My current PC is in a Lian-Li (PC-7 Plus) too, and undergoing gentle, hopefully stylish, mods. To see this article again refreshes my imagination! :)
Practical and well finished without being over-stated, a true classic.
Sam
Macroman the leg end.
Now get 7 of 9 posted up.
Good work other than that. Gotta love 'em simple'n'stylish aluminum cases.