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Matrix Orbital MX610 LCD display

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ChriX 18th October 2005, 11:21 Quote
Yay a proper old skool LCD review! That Haz LCD software was quality. :D

The PLED does look like a big improvement though, glad MO finally got it on the market.
BioSniper 18th October 2005, 11:45 Quote
Lookss nice though obviously the 2 line is kinda limiting as already stated.

Oh btw, typo on the last page:
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From a usarbility point of view, it is arguably software designed by programmers, for programmers - code-shy novice users beware.

;)
Shadowed_fury 19th October 2005, 01:21 Quote
Bah, naughty bit-tech.
Do you know how tempting you've made a 15"/17" LCD mod sound? :)
Dgephri 19th October 2005, 05:50 Quote
I won a 6XX series matrix at a PDXLAN mod contest last year. Very very nice, much better than even the VFD models (I also own a 512-VFD).

Its so much better than the LCD models you won't even believe it. The lack of 4 line option is too bad, but I think MO stated (IIRC) that the availability of OLED stuff is pretty limited, and they can't get a 4 line product to work with, let alone produce for sale.
The_Pope 19th October 2005, 07:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shadowed_fury
Bah, naughty bit-tech.
Do you know how tempting you've made a 15"/17" LCD mod sound? :)

I do actually. It's something I've considered in the past, but LCDs were £300 then. Now that you can pick up a 17" for about £130, it's very tempting indeed. Except I'm still using a 17" CRT for work, so I should probably splash out on dual TFTs for work before embarking on a mod like this.

But feel free to give it a go yourself - just make sure you post your progress in Project Worklogs :D
[USRF]Obiwan 19th October 2005, 09:55 Quote
Damn! You made me feel to mod again. And i have 2 pieces of 12" touchsreens laying in the dust that can handle 640 to 1024x768. My brain is going crazy with modding ideas allready.. pffuuwww
Leeum 19th October 2005, 17:42 Quote
Another alternative... WCS sell character LCD's at a very good price.

http://www.aslr97.dsl.pipex.com/lcd1.jpg

:D
Dgephri 19th October 2005, 18:18 Quote
I find the GPOs on the Matrix more useful than the actual readouts. Software and system event interaction for LEDs, and Fiber optics, and the like ends up involved in just about ever Mod I do. Instead of wiring up a bunch of little SPSTs, I just crimp up a plug to the Matrix and then program the Hotkey into LCDC.

That's just my preference tho.
The_Pope 20th October 2005, 01:27 Quote
For guys like you Dgephri, the MX6 is outdoubtedly class. However, for people just wanting to display MP3 tracks and their Media Center information, well, my thoughts are in the review.
Shadowed_fury 20th October 2005, 01:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Pope
I do actually. It's something I've considered in the past, but LCDs were £300 then. Now that you can pick up a 17" for about £130, it's very tempting indeed. Except I'm still using a 17" CRT for work, so I should probably splash out on dual TFTs for work before embarking on a mod like this.

But feel free to give it a go yourself - just make sure you post your progress in Project Worklogs :D

Considering i'm being offered one for Fifty of our English Pounds for a 15" LCD, yes.
Just not sure if it'll fit with watercooling (2rads) ;)

EDIT: Damn you Geoff, 15" LCD screen on the way...
Dgephri 20th October 2005, 04:06 Quote
actually, its Jeff ;) but not many people make the connection with my handle anyway to you ;)

I need to see what Samurize can do for me, I have a few PS1 LCDs laying around: get the solder gun and GO!
The_Pope 20th October 2005, 11:25 Quote
I believe he's talking to me :P

Geoff Richards
Deputy Editor
Shadowed_fury 20th October 2005, 13:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Pope
I believe he's talking to me :P

Geoff Richards
Deputy Editor

Yes, you!
Never make me spend money again :p
The_Pope 20th October 2005, 14:31 Quote
I'd suggest you've got yourself quite the bargain there mate, so if anything, you owe me a pint for getting you to Do The Right Thing ;)
Shadowed_fury 20th October 2005, 15:47 Quote
Haha! ;)
Find yourself at the same bit-meet, and yeah go on then ;)
Dgephri 20th October 2005, 16:06 Quote
ah, sorry, weird coincidence.
KDB9000 23rd October 2005, 04:03 Quote
not sure if someone asked this or if you guys have talked about it. but do you know if there is linux based software for it? if not i could alwas use wine.
TheMatrixMan 26th October 2005, 16:16 Quote
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kiljoi 26th October 2005, 16:21 Quote
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/matrix_orbital_mx6/shuttle.jpg
Who the hell is she, and where can I find her?
Shadowed_fury 26th October 2005, 16:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by kiljoi
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/matrix_orbital_mx6/shuttle.jpg
Who the hell is she, and where can I find her?

:) :) :)
TheModManSavage 26th October 2005, 16:22 Quote
I'm going to have to defend the MX6 displays a bit. Now I know that they are fairly pricey, especially considering the fact that you can probably get a cheep LCD monitor for that price. I mean you could likely get a PIII for around 100 bucks these days. I don't think that's the point, it's really arguing apples and oranges.

The fact is that an LCD monitor is still not a PLED display, this is the only PLED display that I have ever seen sold on the consumer level and the fact that it is even semi effordable is amazing. PLEDs are brand new technology and as a result you pay a premium to be the only one on the block sporting one in your computer. I mean yay for PSone mods but they aren't even remotely similar to the MX6, they don't come with any of the same features and although it would be a cool mod to have, they only have around a 60 degree viewing angle and are damn near impossible to read across the room.

A PLED on the other hand can easily be read from quite a distance because they are so bright. Thats what makes them so good for use in a home theater PC system. Do you want to be able to read what song is playing when you are sitting on the couch? What about if your not at the optimal viewing angle? Does that matter to you? PLEDs have a 160 degree veiwing angle, that's the same as a plasma screen tv.

So why don't we start comparing the PLED from Matrix against some of its compeditors? Thats right there are none.
Shadowed_fury 26th October 2005, 16:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by TheModManSavage
I'm going to have to defend the MX6 displays a bit. Now I know that they are fairly pricey, especially considering the fact that you can probably get a cheep LCD monitor for that price. I mean you could likely get a PIII for around 100 bucks these days. I don't think that's the point, it's really arguing apples and oranges.

The fact is that an LCD monitor is still not a PLED display, this is the only PLED display that I have ever seen sold on the consumer level and the fact that it is even semi effordable is amazing. PLEDs are brand new technology and as a result you pay a premium to be the only one on the block sporting one in your computer. I mean yay for PSone mods but they aren't even remotely similar to the MX6, they don't come with any of the same features and although it would be a cool mod to have, they only have around a 60 degree viewing angle and are damn near impossible to read across the room.

A PLED on the other hand can easily be read from quite a distance because they are so bright. Thats what makes them so good for use in a home theater PC system. Do you want to be able to read what song is playing when you are sitting on the couch? What about if your not at the optimal viewing angle? Does that matter to you? PLEDs have a 160 degree veiwing angle, that's the same as a plasma screen tv.

So why don't we start comparing the PLED from Matrix against some of its compeditors? Thats right there are none.

Why the hell did you just post this under MrMatrixMan, and again under this name? :?

Related: But you can't play games on PLED screen ;P
ChriX 26th October 2005, 16:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Leeum
Another alternative... WCS sell character LCD's at a very good price.

Bah, none of them are OLED, and your pic demonstrates the rubbish viewing angles of the normal ones!
tken 26th October 2005, 17:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by kiljoi
http://www.bit-tech.net/content_images/matrix_orbital_mx6/shuttle.jpg
Who the hell is she, and where can I find her?


I wanna know too !!!
The_Pope 26th October 2005, 17:17 Quote
I'll start with the important issue: Shuttle Booth Babe from Computex 2005.

Moving on to TheModManSavage, it's horses for courses mate. If you *have* to have a PLED, spend the money. If you only want to display simple information, or GUI-based stuff, and maybe your HTPC is under your TV (thus your viewing angle isn't an issue) then there are far cheaper options than an MX6.

I don't dispute that PLEDs are nice: plenty bright, and you really can still read the text from side on if you ever had the need. However, there's no escaping from the fact that the MX6 is:

a) expensive
b) has software that is hard to use for beginners
c) has zero Media Center integration
d) can only display 2x20 lines of characters

As I said in the review, if you're happy to spend time programming a bunch of custom stuff from scratch, go right ahead. But this product is limited to Advanced Users - everyone else should find an alternative.
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