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I think the point is being missed here - with reference to the staff comments, if it was such a tight deadline you could have simply said "no we won't be able to do something spectacular "
Originally Posted by The_PopeThat is exactly the conversation I had with Vivendi mate: they found the site through Orac and asked about having a themed PC made. I was clear in explaining the timeline required for that level of mod, and when their budget became apparent, I showed them the past CaseSkin work we had done and discussed concepts for the F.E.A.R. caseskin that you see now.
Originally Posted by The_PopeIf we only published super elite mods that take 6+ months to build and cost $5000 or more, as you seem to suggest, bit-tech would be a pretty empty website.
Originally Posted by bigzA lot of you guys are modders, but somehow I get the impression that you don't understand just how long it takes to complete a high-quality computer case mod.
Originally Posted by The_Popebit-tech have been at the forefront of modding for several years now, constantly pushing back the boundaries of what is possible and pioneering the use of new techniques and new materials. The only trap, as you have demonstrated, is the constant pressure for each subsequent mod to be even more extreme than the last.
Originally Posted by quackLooks pretty good to me! I can't wait for the game to be released.
If the client is happy with the result does it really matter how much "modding" goes into the project? They got what they wanted, in a tight timeframe, and quite frankly that's what's important.
Originally Posted by Da_Rude_BaboonActually i think this is the probelm. You WERE at the fore front of modding but you aren't anymore. When i first started reading Bit, projects like macroblack, macrocase and linears cube were being published and were ground breaking. The last few great mods on bit (with the exception of WMD) have not been made by Bit staff. Correct me if i'm wrong but when Orac3 was started Gnome was a forum member not Bit staff. He became a member of Bit staff when Gnome became the most popular mod on the site. You also refer to blackmesa which again is not an inhouse Bit project.
I hope now you have become full time bit employees the situation improves but please remember that its the forums members that are keeping bit at the forefront of the modding community not the staff.
Originally Posted by The_Popearguably it will be a while before anyone anywhere produces a mod of the frankly ridiculous level of detail that G-Gnome went to with Orac.
trying to elevate the value of your own work by demeaning another's may be common, but it ain't wise.
Originally Posted by NexxoTrue, but it takes a lot of effort to fill up a front page with new material every week. If Bit-Tech concentrated only on posting/writing about really outstanding mods or projects, then you would get an update perhaps every few months or so, and people would complain that they "never see any new stuff".
I think that the article just is a nice illustration of what can be done with casewraps (and how to design, plan and apply them), should people be interested to incorporate some in their mods. Nothing more, nothing less; just take it at face value. You simply cannot expect an Orac 3 or Black Mesa every week; that's crazy. That sort of thing takes a lot of time and money, and frankly people have lives to get be getting on with and costs of living to pay for. So patience is a virtue.
People may (reasonably) feel that the project was not "article worthy", but I think that sort of depends on your point of view. If you want articles to be about blow-your-socks-off mods only, perhaps not. If you want articles to illustrate a range of diverse aspects of modding, then perhaps it is. Horses for courses.
Originally Posted by Da DegoMaybe we as a community could be suggesting possible modding articles, to help figure out what could fill this space and prevent this from happening again? Again, this isn't meant to be a knock on the project, but that there's other things we could do that would still keep featured case mods exactly that, and emphasize the awesome skills of our community's best.
Just my $0.02. That and another $1 can maybe gat you a cup of coffee. ;)
Originally Posted by NexxoGreat idea. ;)
Make mine an espresso. Double. :D
Originally Posted by The_PopeWelcome to the bit-tech forums, dutchcedar.
I think you misunderstood my comment about Orac: "frankly ridiculous level of detail" is a compliment. It's like saying there is an "insane attention to detail" - that doesn't mean I think Pete is crazy - it's is an enthusiast way of saying "a lot"
Originally Posted by Da DegoSo where should we start that thread, perhaps? Modding? Mod guides? It should be somewhere visible...I just think our "Modding" front page section could be expanded with some healthy how-to's and reviews if we need more frequent eye candy.
Might I humbly request the first 'how-to' being a basic useful digital electronics, like qprox sensors? Gets asked a lot, and will give ol' Zap something to do for a minute...he's been too quiet lately. ;)
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