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Project F.E.A.R.

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sadffffff 9th June 2005, 10:29 Quote
couple errors in the article on the first page:

http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2005/06/09/project_fear/1.html
1st page, doesnt start untill after the ads on the right stop using IE, just a whole lotta white space.

also in the first paragraph:
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"Thus begins one of the [eurl=www.whatisfear.com/us/]scariest trailers[/eurl] for a computer game I have ever seen. F.E.A.R. stands for First Encounter Assault Recon, and your character is part of an elite military unit deployed to tackle supernatural and paranormal phenomenon; think Fox Mulder dressed in fatigues and packing an MP-5."
that EURL thing looks like a bit of code that isnt right.

...

Nifty case BTW
woodshop 9th June 2005, 10:30 Quote
I don't belive
Code:
 [eurl=www.whatisfear.com/us/]scariest trailers[/eurl]
is a valid web language.
:)

edit:
gerrrr sadffff you type to fast
Tim S 9th June 2005, 10:52 Quote
that is part of the language that we use to input articles in to the engine - easier than html. I don't know how that wasn't picked up on, but it is fixed now.

The IE bug is also fixed for that page.... it is a strange one that crops up randomly
M_D_K 9th June 2005, 12:17 Quote
heh looks like a good game, shame you've covered all the ventilation holes at the fornt of the case :p



morgan.
Mr T 9th June 2005, 13:17 Quote
It looks nice and all but it still kind of dissappoints me that when bit-tech are commissioned to 'mod' a case they seam to just stick a sticker on it. Where the true modding in that? :(
Atomic 9th June 2005, 13:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mr T
It looks nice and all but it still kind of dissappoints me that when bit-tech are commissioned to 'mod' a case they seam to just stick a sticker on it. Where the true modding in that? :(
Exactly my thoughts too.

Custom Mod... just slap a sticker on it. That'll be £# please...
Bindibadgi 9th June 2005, 13:51 Quote
Well the thing is we have a different idea and time scale to modding than these companies. A proper mod with true innovation takes a LOT of time, anyone on here knows that - mostly in the planning and then having the materials and time and expertise to do it. The problem is these companies want a mod and they want it done yesterday, which is why Geoff said through the article a few times about the constraints he was under and why he needed the post to get to him quickly, or he reused dimentions.
TMM 9th June 2005, 14:28 Quote
It looks nice but........... ventilation?
Atomic 9th June 2005, 15:54 Quote
Maybe these should be labeled as 'Corperate Mods' then.
zr_ox 9th June 2005, 15:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
A proper mod with true innovation takes a LOT of time, anyone on here knows that

So surley its better to turn down the offer than to just slap a sticker on there. I mean yeah we all know about the time/money/skill required for a half descent mod, but its just wrong....How can a website so renowned for modding resort to using stickers? And if this can stress the latest hardware, why is the system being suffocated
The_Pope 9th June 2005, 16:01 Quote
Trust me - we explored several options, and with limited time AND limited budget, the CaseSkin route was the only real option.

For example, everything had to be approved by the Product Manager at Vivendi, who has more on his plate than discuss designs with me all damn day. It took the best part of two entire weeks to get the Photoshop layouts to the point where they were happy, so I make no apologies for it not being Orac tbh.

As for ventilation, I left it to the magazine boys depending on what sort of system they put into it. The PC-61 will draw air under the front lip at the bottom of the bezel, so it isn't reliant on those front holes per se. Indeed, there is a fairly restrictive filter on those front vents, so the normal airflow is less than you'd think.

The other reason I didn't go ahead and punch 200-odd holes in the front of my otherwise clean case is my past experience from Project Synapse: http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2004/09/21/project_synapse/3.html

As I mentioned in my Worklog, the CaseSkin vinyl really doesn't like fine detail, and cutting those tiny airholes throws up enormous challenges to get it to look decent. So the best solution was to leave them intact for the magazine photography, and if they install something super high-end in it, then can always open them up. Ditto the top 80mm
The_Pope 9th June 2005, 16:11 Quote
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How can a website so renowned for modding resort to using stickers?

Wow - I'm certainly not going to sit here all night defending this project. I'm amused that several of you are so quick to dismiss CaseSkins as merely "stickers" - they are a hugely versatile medium, are relatively low cost and unless y'all have a PHD in airbrushing, produce a better result in a weekend than many people could manage in 10 times the time.

There's no law that says every bit-tech mod has to be Orac-level stuff: anyone got a spare 9 months and $x000? We cater for EVERY modder, from the newbie who stil getsl excited by making a, blowhole 4 years after we cut our first, right up to the G-gnomes and Eddie the Danes.

The bottom line is that this mod was barely 24 hours from CaseSkin delivery to couriering the final product to the magazine, including photography in order to bring you guys something new to read. I'm happy with the end result, and so are Vivendi, which is what is important.

So take it easy fellas
RotoSequence 9th June 2005, 16:45 Quote
Man, you people are being brutal to this just because its not a traditional style mod? Give it a rest; this is an awesome case, with great visuals; it actually does take talent to get measurements right with that kind of stuff, design things to work properly, and to take into account absolutely everything necessary; you did great job ;)
:: kna :: 9th June 2005, 17:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Atomic
Exactly my thoughts too.

Custom Mod... just slap a sticker on it. That'll be £# please...
If you think 'slapping a sticker on' is all it takes you need to appreciate a little more about design before you make such a sweeping statement. As an example I spent longer on the graphical design element of the synapse skin than some people have on entire mods for their cases.

It's not all about cutting holes and spraying custom formed plastic bolt-ons.
The_Pope 9th June 2005, 17:02 Quote
Thank you Roto - appreciated

Everyone else: you're off my Christmas card list :P

Kna: down boy! ;)
Xiachunyi 9th June 2005, 17:31 Quote
I really like how the case turned out - especially considering the time limit it was under with the final judgement being called by someone who probably just wants it done and not as a piece of art.

Off question: How would you describe the quality of the black of the skin in relation to the reflection it shows? I am thinking about changing the back end of laptop to piano black but, instead of trying to paint and void my warranty, that I could maybe apply a skin to emulate the effect. To rephrase my question, how does look of the black on the skin compare to a piano?
Firehed 9th June 2005, 18:10 Quote
Well I for one think it was very well done. Even merely applying the skins is tricky to do without air bubbling it to death. I personally like the art that Vivendi through out more, but it is their case.
Bindibadgi 9th June 2005, 18:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by The_Pope
Thank you Roto - appreciated

Everyone else: you're off my Christmas card list :P

Kna: down boy! ;)

I defended you :'(

As for ventilation - you lot have never used an acrylic case then? Even with airflow it's like an oven and stuff still works perfectly fine.
Nexxo 9th June 2005, 20:03 Quote
All mods are worthy. OK?

Now let's get back to modding.
M_D_K 9th June 2005, 20:31 Quote
"rant"
Ok for all you people mocking this 'mod', as Kna said he put alot of work in designing the skin and getting it done, i think they spent more time sticking that skin on the case then alot of the Mods i've seen in the modding forum. Not too sound rude but i don't see any of you going into the modding forum and ripping the piss out of some of the lesser mods that are out there like the people that just slap a window in there case which takes zero effert and design. Atleast there was alot of thought put into the design of the skin.
"slaps all" Bad bit-techies, a mod is a mod no matter how small or extravagent it is, it all comes down too how much time you have, the budget your working from and the people you are working for.


Morgan.
Jordanis3r 9th June 2005, 22:52 Quote
Hmmmm ...

Hmm indeed - I am a not so often poster here at bit recently, but consider myself an old timer - ie been around the block and seen it... done it... school of ppl in this community

I have to agree - I was expecting something a bit more innovative, original and "one off", and yes I agree with the ppl that are not as impressed - but at the end of the day it is a vinyl sticker, and whilst I can appreciate the PS work and th amount of hassle it is to get it right and fit it - Vivendi came to bit for a reason, that reason is that you have the reputation of being at the forefront and being very good - however I really feel that this does not come up to your usul standards, and yes I can appreciate that not everything comes up to a g-nome special, hell some of my mods have fallen flat on their face and some are even unfinished ...

I had a discussion recently with a good friend who again has been around the block and has the credibility in this tight community - and he agreed with me that the whole ethos of where bit has come from has diluted to a certain degree - ok I understand that you need to hit a bigger target audience - but I think this "mod" sums it up

I hate to bash anyone - especially when a certain degree of hard work has gone into it - but I cannot hide the fact that I personally am dissapointed in this as a solution for a customer ...
Tim S 10th June 2005, 00:41 Quote
what would you expect us to do given a time table that is unrealistic to produce anything near an Orac 3?

A lot of you guys are modders, but somehow I get the impression that you don't understand just how long it takes to complete a high-quality computer case mod.
invalid 10th June 2005, 01:03 Quote
I don't think there is anything wrong with the case. I just think its not much worth an article on its creation. We have all seen the application of a skin before, even on this site. So I think a lot of the people here just feel like, "whats the point of this article?". Its obviously more to promote the game than about modding innovation. And really, there is nothing wrong with that.

But I do see where the negatives are coming from. How soon do you think we will see CrimsonSky toss a vinyl sticker on a case and call it a day? Never probably. The truth is though, thats the same thing many thought about BT. That why I think they feel let down.
M_D_K 10th June 2005, 02:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
what would you expect us to do given a time table that is unrealistic to produce anything near an Orac 3?

A lot of you guys are modders, but somehow I get the impression that you don't understand just how long it takes to complete a high-quality computer case mod.

I agree, i vote for a new competition, you bit-techers have 2 weeks too complete a mod too the standards of G-nomes work, ow and no taking time off work or pushing this too the top of the pile you have too use your spare time.

I hate this when companys expect imaculate products on there step 2 days ago we get this all the time at work. People expect things too fast and at the end of the day you just can't put as much effort into something if your given a deadline that is impossible too meet.

Also i'd like too chip in i don't think any one of you would turn your nose up at that if it was delivered to your door. Would you say too the post man no i do not want it. Next time maybe you should all flip a coin into a wishing well and hope for a frickin miracle cause mods don't just happen over night.

Also too you people that have been here along time guy above BigZ post, you should damn well know how long things take christ the current mod that people are drooling over 69GTs i think has huge pauses between psots as there are more important things in life then too get a wicked case out the door so they can have a super prize.

Morgan.
yodasarmpit 10th June 2005, 04:13 Quote
I like the artwork, but find it strange they didn't just do this in-house, other than the obvious exposure somewhere like bit-tech can generate.
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