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OCZ Agility 3 Review 240GB

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hirezo 17th August 2011, 10:00 Quote
hmmmm don't think it worth the money if it only scored a 60%
andrew8200m 17th August 2011, 10:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave
The Vertex's cheaper sibling comes to play, but can it keep up with the big kids?

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2011/08/17/ocz-agility-3-240gb-review/1

LOL!

OCZ are not going to be happy!

Faulty drives perhaps given the pitfall on that one test that a combination of NAND (regardless of asynchronous or synchronous) and the Sandforce 2281 controller seems to be woefully slow?

Ran same tests here, got pretty much the same results apart from the first test which was again nearing the Vertex 3 speed.

Giving an excuse of "down to asynchronous instead of synchronous NAND" is a cop out as an excuse considering the force 3 performsa smidge slower than the v3 yet uses the asynchronous nand and the force GT uses synchronous hence the fact it is pretty much identical to the v3 in how it performs.

How it can be as fast as the v3 (within reason) on all tests bar one (reading the custompc mag) and then all of a sudden be 60% slower on another? Im seeing speeds app 20Mb/s slower.. not 2-300mb/s slower...
Siwini 17th August 2011, 11:18 Quote
That’s some good knowledge. Thank you Bit-Tech! I must say I do love the graphs. Do Mushkin Enhanced Chronos Deluxe Next
Baz 17th August 2011, 11:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by andrew8200m
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claave
The Vertex's cheaper sibling comes to play, but can it keep up with the big kids?

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2011/08/17/ocz-agility-3-240gb-review/1

LOL!

OCZ are not going to be happy!

Faulty drives perhaps given the pitfall on that one test that a combination of NAND (regardless of asynchronous or synchronous) and the Sandforce 2281 controller seems to be woefully slow?

Ran same tests here, got pretty much the same results apart from the first test which was again nearing the Vertex 3 speed.

Giving an excuse of "down to asynchronous instead of synchronous NAND" is a cop out as an excuse considering the force 3 performsa smidge slower than the v3 yet uses the asynchronous nand and the force GT uses synchronous hence the fact it is pretty much identical to the v3 in how it performs.

How it can be as fast as the v3 (within reason) on all tests bar one (reading the custompc mag) and then all of a sudden be 60% slower on another? Im seeing speeds app 20Mb/s slower.. not 2-300mb/s slower...

We've checked with OCZ, and the drive isn't faulty. You can find other Agility 3 reviews that demonstrate the same poor performance in AS-SSD's incompressible data test. The asynchronous NAND just isn't fast enough, and with incompressible data the SF2281 controller cant do the compression magic to make up the difference.
Waynio 17th August 2011, 11:40 Quote
Damn I didn't notice the crucial m4 256GB at that price when I bought the corsair force 3 120GB for £145 the other day .
Amsalpedalb 17th August 2011, 11:42 Quote
Crucial m4 256GB for £263? Damn, I may have to pick one up. That's amazingly close to 1GB to £1 now.
Anneon 17th August 2011, 11:59 Quote
SSD's are top of my shopping list at the moment. Nice to know not all SSD's are created equal.
Baz 17th August 2011, 12:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Amsalpedalb
Crucial m4 256GB for £263? Damn, I may have to pick one up. That's amazingly close to 1GB to £1 now.

£1.10/GB actually. Ace how aggressive Crucial is being on pricing. I think that SandForce drives have to pay a LOT more for the drive controller licensing, hence the higher price, despite the same amount of NAND on-board.
Bloody_Pete 17th August 2011, 12:11 Quote
And I thought my X23-M's felt fast, these drives must be blistering to use!!!
Amsalpedalb 17th August 2011, 13:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
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Originally Posted by Amsalpedalb
Crucial m4 256GB for £263? Damn, I may have to pick one up. That's amazingly close to 1GB to £1 now.

£1.10/GB actually. Ace how aggressive Crucial is being on pricing. I think that SandForce drives have to pay a LOT more for the drive controller licensing, hence the higher price, despite the same amount of NAND on-board.

Yeah, temptingly close to the £1 to the GB ratio I decided I wanted to see before I bought an SSD. However I'm using an Asus P5K Premium, so no Sata 3 and due to the silly layout of the board only 4 of the 8 Sata ports are actually usable (any they're all taken up with drives anyway). Despite this, I still want an SSD.
V3ctor 17th August 2011, 14:46 Quote
All of these new generations have issues with firmware/controllers... I see lots of people complaining about them
leexgx 18th August 2011, 05:34 Quote
not something I would buy to the point just skip this SandForce second gen ssd due to hardware/firmware issues wait for next gen ssd with SandForce in it

price is to high for what it is
Waynio 18th August 2011, 11:31 Quote
So right there really, bought the corsair force 3 very much aware many are having problems with them but also seen some who were having no problems with them & these are the ones who need to come forward & say no problems here else it makes it look like these companies are selling high priced unreliable crap when you look at the support forums but people who have good running tech tend to not come out & say if alls well because they got better things to do with their working rig :D & you really shouldn't have to go into buying these things hoping you get an ok one but that's how it seems so hopefully I got lucky but there are many who haven't, if it's as bad as it looks to me how come bit-tech hasn't done an article on it or have they or is it just mostly tech newbs who have been havng probs, I seen many claiming they work in IT maintaining many many PC's & I'm very suspicious about those types as if they say things like that it just seems like they are trying to make the company worry they are gonna lose many sales bet it's just some newb doing a lot of copy pasting :D.

Imagine how bad it would be if AMD Intel Nvidia released really unreliable products regulary, well Intel mucked up with the needed B3 revision but some how fixed that ASAP & corsair had all the force 3 ssd's recalled after finding they were bad so they could re-release it with a revision so hopefully it's ok now, I won't know though until I complete my case but it has a good new serial begining with 1130 so fingers crossed I'll be ok :).

I remember people whinging like crazy on ocz forum about the ocz summit losing it's write speed but I had no real problems with it even with it losing a lot of it's write speed in bench marks but still not noticable in day to day usage, just I needed more than 60gb for my os drive since some games insist on loading DLC onto the os drive even when you have the games on a seperate drive :?. I almost went as far as to go for an ocz vertex 2e but since the force 3 was at £145 for the 120gb I went for that as it was only £10 or £15 more :D anyway I won't know if I'm in for problems for another week or 2 I think.
murraynt 19th August 2011, 11:48 Quote
I have a 64 gb version and I think i will return it. Getting frequent lock ups.
kosch 22nd August 2011, 18:33 Quote
Please review some Mushkin drives!
djpershan 14th December 2011, 07:16 Quote
any updates on this drive in terms of past bad reviews and past FW issues?

overall is it a good drive to buy, considering the bad review comments were written last in Aug, 2011?
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