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Investigating SATA 6Gbps Performance

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kenco_uk 16th November 2009, 10:41 Quote
For a professional e-publication, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors that appear frequently throughout articles on bit-tech is quite frankly shocking. Please either hire a copy editor or purchase/code some software which does a better job than a second pair of eyes skim-reading it before it's published. Harsh, perhaps, but it requires bringing to task imo.
stonedsurd 16th November 2009, 10:42 Quote
So basically not worth it at the moment. Nice article though :)
Autti 16th November 2009, 10:46 Quote
Hmm seems Intel and AMD will be the limiting factors for drive speed now, P55 with only 16 PCI G2 lanes doesn't look so good now considering if you run a SATA6Gb/s SSD it drops it to 8x for your GFX card, so bye bye SLI and CF.
SlowMotionSuicide 16th November 2009, 10:59 Quote
If you're splashing the cash on SATA6 SSD, I doubt you'll be running anything based on mainstream P55 anyways.
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 11:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
For a professional e-publication, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors that appear frequently throughout articles on bit-tech is quite frankly shocking. Please either hire a copy editor or purchase/code some software which does a better job than a second pair of eyes skim-reading it before it's published. Harsh, perhaps, but it requires bringing to task imo.

If we did that, where would the fun be for YOU picking out the slight grammatical errors? :):)
dec 16th November 2009, 11:25 Quote
isnt pci express 3.0 due out in a year or so? better these are released before the SSD's overfill the current bandwidth
stonedsurd 16th November 2009, 11:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
If we did that, where would the fun be for YOU picking out the slight grammatical errors? :):)

Agreed :p

Let the grammar nazi's have their fun, but please at least edit the mistakes that are pointed out. Quite often, they go unedited even after they are quoted in the comment threads.
kgwagner 16th November 2009, 11:40 Quote
The title to this piece should have been "WD vs. Seagate 2GB Drive Performance", since that's what the entire article was about. Only in the last paragraph do you finally mention that the 6Gbps interface isn't bringing anything to the party (yet), which I suspect everybody already knows since there aren't any drives going hungry on the 3Gbps interface.
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 11:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by stonedsurd
Agreed :p

Let the grammar nazi's have their fun, but please at least edit the mistakes that are pointed out. Quite often, they go unedited even after they are quoted in the comment threads.

They are all changed at some point during the day/48hrs.
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Originally Posted by kgwagner
The title to this piece should have been "WD vs. Seagate 2GB Drive Performance", since that's what the entire article was about. Only in the last paragraph do you finally mention that the 6Gbps interface isn't bringing anything to the party (yet), which I suspect everybody already knows since there aren't any drives going hungry on the 3Gbps interface.

That's not it at all - we compared SATA 6Gbps to SATA 3Gbps, on two separate SATA connections on two separate motherboards that have completely different ways of using the Marvell chipsets. The graphs show all this data.


I've also amended the article to note the Asus board uses the 88SE9123, not 28: it does not feature RAID.
impar 16th November 2009, 11:45 Quote
Greetings!

Was expecting to see SSDs as the drives, not 7.200 RPMers...

WD > Seagate ?
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 11:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!

Was expecting to see SSDs as the drives, not 7.200 RPMers...

There's no such thing as a SATA 6Gbps SSD until next year, otherwise I would have used one also.
wuyanxu 16th November 2009, 11:53 Quote
nice to see Asus kept their useless plastic on top of the south bridge.

so basic conclusion is SATA 6Gbps is not needed until ultra-fast SSD's come around.
impar 16th November 2009, 12:05 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
There's no such thing as a SATA 6Gbps SSD until next year, otherwise I would have used one also.
Dont SATA 3Gbps SSDs benefit anything from SATA 6Gbps?
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 12:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!

Dont SATA 3Gbps SSDs benefit anything from SATA 6Gbps?

I tested with an Intel G2 160GB, and no, there's no difference at all. I just didn't include the results because they didn't say much and the graphs are already very data-heavy.
impar 16th November 2009, 12:18 Quote
Greetings!
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
I tested with an Intel G2 160GB, and no, there's no difference at all. I just didn't include the results because they didn't say much and the graphs are already very data-heavy.
Ok, thanks.
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 12:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!

Ok, thanks.

No problem! :) Thanks for the question (I had already anticipated the answer to for a change) :)
mrbens 16th November 2009, 12:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
For a professional e-publication, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors that appear frequently throughout articles on bit-tech is quite frankly shocking. Please either hire a copy editor or purchase/code some software which does a better job than a second pair of eyes skim-reading it before it's published. Harsh, perhaps, but it requires bringing to task imo.

If we did that, where would the fun be for YOU picking out the slight grammatical errors? :):)

Althought it is unprofessional, I do agree it's fun pointing out the mistakes. I'd rather have someone with a passion for what they are talking about make a few mistakes than a grammar expert write a load of rubbish!

This sentence is best with a Mario accent, "...although as a premium, performance disk drive you'll pay a through the nose..." ;)

And this is a bit muddled: If the BIOS is has the setting of "Turbo SATA 3.0"

No need for the 'of': and we still have the same eight of SATA ports as the Gigabyte board
BohleyK 16th November 2009, 13:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
For a professional e-publication, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors that appear frequently throughout articles on bit-tech is quite frankly shocking. Please either hire a copy editor or purchase/code some software which does a better job than a second pair of eyes skim-reading it before it's published. Harsh, perhaps, but it requires bringing to task imo.

For a professional e-publication, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors that appear frequently throughout articles on bit-tech is shocking. Please either hire a copy editor or purchase/code some software which does a better job than a second pair of eyes skim-reading the review before it is published. Trolling, but it requires bringing to task.

I fixed your grammatical fail!
tseax 16th November 2009, 13:56 Quote
Useful article - thanks a bunch Richard!
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 13:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by mrbens
And this is a bit muddled: If the BIOS is has the setting of "Turbo SATA 3.0"
Fixed that completely. It was two sentences I merged without re-reading.

tseax - no problem ;)
shigllgetcha 16th November 2009, 14:06 Quote
wont somebody think of the children!!!
B3CK 16th November 2009, 14:16 Quote
The grammer did not detract from the article in my op.
On page one where the hardware is listed at the top; I was wondering if that was placed there to show what was tested with, or if it is part of the [reviewers must state they have been provided with free hardware] that the U.S. recently sent around. I would like to think it's both, but for some reason that new legislation is kinda stuck in my head.
I also started to wonder at how small the graphs were, until thinking about how much time it takes to test hard drives, and that there really isn't any 6Gb drives on the market yet.
Overall a very informative review,
shigllgetcha 16th November 2009, 14:22 Quote
sorry read your post wrong thought you said it had detracted from the article, was gonna be snarkey about a grammer mistake in your post.
Bindibadgi 16th November 2009, 14:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by B3CK
The grammer did not detract from the article in my op.
On page one where the hardware is listed at the top; I was wondering if that was placed there to show what was tested with, or if it is part of the [reviewers must state they have been provided with free hardware] that the U.S. recently sent around. I would like to think it's both, but for some reason that new legislation is kinda stuck in my head.
I also started to wonder at how small the graphs were, until thinking about how much time it takes to test hard drives, and that there really isn't any 6Gb drives on the market yet.
Overall a very informative review,

Everyone provides us with hardware. It makes no difference to what we do and don't get - if someone doesn't want to send us something we don't care because there's plenty more to do, or, if we still want to cover it then we'll buy our own or seek out another partner. Thankfully we've exceeded critical mass where companies cannot ignore our traffic and readership, so it's less beneficial for them to ignore us.

We're not a US publication, we don't suffer pathetic litigation hehehe ;) the long standing quality and impartiality of bit-tech and now Dennis Publishing should ring loud enough :):) and yea, there are some people in our industry we know of that.. well, "do their own thing" on this front, and all I can say is that you should read many reviews for many thoughts! Not just for bias, but for multiple review styles, benchmarks, opinions, etc

I stated it up front because I wanted to let people know from the outset it's not a review of one particular product: there are several products we are covering. Sometimes people cannot differentiate between "feature" and "review".

Appreciate the positive feedback though ;)
Toka 16th November 2009, 15:25 Quote
Thanks for the article Bindi - good to know I can continue with my upgrade plan with nary a worry.
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