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Kingston SSDNow V Series 40GB: Intel X25-X

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stonedsurd 27th October 2009, 09:13 Quote
Why is there no X25-M G2 in there for comparison? :(
icutebluezone 27th October 2009, 09:26 Quote
Lots of chips missing off it. anyone up for modding it and hacking it to get more out of it. :D
Bindibadgi 27th October 2009, 09:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by icutebluezone
Lots of chips missing off it. anyone up for modding it and hacking it to get more out of it. :D

If you can buy 34nm NAND on its own and edit the firmware, sure!

Stone: It's not exactly the same market, however I appreciate you want the comparison and I might dig out the numbers to drop in later this week/weekend.
stonedsurd 27th October 2009, 10:05 Quote
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Stone: It's not exactly the same market, however I appreciate you want the comparison and I might dig out the numbers to drop in later this week/weekend.
Thanks, would be much appreciated I'm sure, and not only by me :)
Radical_Monkey 27th October 2009, 10:07 Quote
Do you think this SSD would give a major performance boost to a netbook, say the samsung NC10 with W7 Pro installed?

Thanks
jim48509 27th October 2009, 10:20 Quote
After reading that review I will leave the card in the wallet.
Xir 27th October 2009, 10:28 Quote
So...the Kingston SSD NOW V+Series 64GB SSD was seen (in it Article) as too small...but this one isn't?
Bindibadgi 27th October 2009, 10:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir
So...the Kingston SSD NOW V+Series 64GB SSD was seen (in it Article) as too small...but this one isn't?

No, 40GB is certainly too small (we said in the first page), but two in RAID 0 is not bad at nearly 80GB.
yakyb 27th October 2009, 11:12 Quote
hmm i like the look of this would make a great cheap drive for a database that requires lots of reads im half tempted

are there any others out there that have similar if not better read performance and cost about the same
cosmic 27th October 2009, 11:22 Quote
Looks like its wait a bit longer for a 'cheap' SSD boot drive. Will have to see how the competition responds to this, its certainly a step in the right direction - just not there yet.
Xir 27th October 2009, 11:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
No, 40GB is certainly too small (we said in the first page), but two in RAID 0 is not bad at nearly 80GB.


True...in Raid0 it is slower as solo though.
Wouldn't a Samsung F3 also in Raid0 come close? (and have 2terabyte and cost less?)
DeathAwaitsU 27th October 2009, 11:31 Quote
No Win7 results? Im sure alot of us are running it, i know i have for over a year :)
Baz 27th October 2009, 11:56 Quote
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No Win7 results? Im sure alot of us are running it, i know i have for over a year :)

WIndows 7 SSD and HDD testing article is in the works, but understand it means retesting a hell of a lot of drives, as well as working around Windows 7's caching system.
Dave_M 27th October 2009, 14:32 Quote
You don't like it based on its sequential write speeds? This would make a great system drive. Show me a better SSD for £80.

As for a performace drive, I would take it over a WD velociraptor in a hart beat ;)
Bindibadgi 27th October 2009, 15:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xir
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
No, 40GB is certainly too small (we said in the first page), but two in RAID 0 is not bad at nearly 80GB.

True...in Raid0 it is slower as solo though.
Wouldn't a Samsung F3 also in Raid0 come close? (and have 2terabyte and cost less?)

Yes but two HDDs do truly double the chance of failure in a bad way. SSDs, so far, have proved a lot more reliable so that's why we're even marginally considering it. This doesnt solve issues like a bad mobo, driver corruption, etc
John_T 27th October 2009, 17:36 Quote
As you say, 40GB is really too small with modern OS's - and why would someone want to spend £160 'raiding' two of these instead of just buying a bigger, better SSD to begin with?

Still, it's definitely moving in the right direction.

If manufacturers keep up their current pace of improvement and price reduction, I can see myself swapping to an SSD as my core drive at some point in Q1 2010.
John_T 27th October 2009, 17:45 Quote
Thinking about it, I'm currently toying with the idea of buying a net-top as a Christmas pressie to myself.

One of these could be perfect in a net-top, (something like an Acer Aspire Revo R3600) as it would give a totally silent system - with the only sound being the click of the on/off button.

Does anyone know if those things come apart easily - or are they moulded shut?

Actually, an article on net-tops would be pretty cool if you guys aren't too busy - I bet they'd make great media centres with SSD's in them...
ano 27th October 2009, 19:01 Quote
Yes SSDs are perfect for netbooks, hence the Asus Eee PC came with one 2 years ago (although it was 4Gb heh).
perplekks45 27th October 2009, 19:27 Quote
Moving in the right direction? Please come again?
All they did was making it smaller and slower while selling it for basically the same £/GB price. It's smaller, that's why it's cheaper.

I'm disappointed. Give me an SSD drive with 1xx MB/s read AND write for 1 - 1.5 £/GB and we're talking.
John_T 27th October 2009, 20:55 Quote
A fair reminder there ano - though as you say, 4GB really does nothing for me! (For a start, I want windows, not a stripped down, bare-basics version of Linux). All the modern net-tops I see now seem to come with an HDD as standard.

perplekks45, I understand that - I was really talking about where SSD's have come in general in the last 6 months or so, as opposed to just this specific drive - I probably should have made that a bit clearer...
Dave_M 28th October 2009, 14:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by John_T
One of these could be perfect in a net-top, (something like an Acer Aspire Revo R3600) as it would give a totally silent system - with the only sound being the click of the on/off button.

You are out of luck. That system has a fan.


40GB is easily big enough for a modern OS. Windows 7 will fit on a 16GB drive with still bags of room for other apps.

I would take a guess that all these people that are on the fence about SSD (including myself), will be buying a SSD when we get 22nm storage. £1/GB with a 32GB drive is what I'm hoping to get.
00se7en 28th October 2009, 16:06 Quote
John T - I got myself an Eee Box (the original one) to use as an iTunes server. There's a hard-drive caddy on that system, similar to an old laptop so piece of cake. There is a small fan in the Eee box, but it's near-silent. I dropped a 500Gb 2.5inch hitachi drive and can't hear that either though - depends where it is and how sensitive your hearing is.
Baz 28th October 2009, 17:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by John_T
One of these could be perfect in a net-top, (something like an Acer Aspire Revo R3600) as it would give a totally silent system - with the only sound being the click of the on/off button.

You are out of luck. That system has a fan.


40GB is easily big enough for a modern OS. Windows 7 will fit on a 16GB drive with still bags of room for other apps.

I would take a guess that all these people that are on the fence about SSD (including myself), will be buying a SSD when we get 22nm storage. £1/GB with a 32GB drive is what I'm hoping to get.

Frustratingly this drive is just $85 in the USA - roughly £55 UK price. If it'd shipped at that price we'd be liking it a whole lot more.

£1/GB is the way magic number - when drives hit that we'll see the market really take off.
rollo 28th October 2009, 22:11 Quote
think its a dream in space tbh

£1/gb compared to the £2.50 it currently is

its a big drop thats required to happen
John_T 28th October 2009, 23:35 Quote
Thanks for the replies there gents - nice one.

Dave, cheers for the fan info, I didn't realise that. You're probably right about the size & I'm just being overly fussy - it's not as if I'm planning to load games on it or use it for mass storage or anything.

00se7en, you've got a similar idea to me - though I really want to use it as a BBC iPlayer server. I pretty much never get to watch live TV any more - I've left my PC on overnight occasionally to grab a programme or two, but it's not exactly quiet or efficient & I reckon this would be the more elegant solution. Thinking about it, 40GB is more than enough for what I need.

BAZ, you're right about the price: £1 per 1GB would see these things fly off the shelf. The old $/£ technology software/hardware exchange rate rip-off really gets my goat! (Our monopolies & mergers commission doesn't see it as detrimental to consumer interest however - bunch of spineless, toothless wasters).

I am pretty sensitive to PC noise & have gone through an array of PSU's, HSF's & case fans in search of peace - the day they make a decently powerful machine totally silent I will positively mime shouting with joy!
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