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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Review

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mrb_no1 7th October 2009, 14:37 Quote
lololol +1 for bindi
B1GBUD 7th October 2009, 18:28 Quote
I installed my F3 last night and I can honestly say it's the dogs bollards. I copied 36gb of mp3's from my ageing 160gb Maxtor and it only took 15 minutes!
Bindibadgi 7th October 2009, 18:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by B1GBUD
I installed my F3 last night and I can honestly say it's the dogs bollards. I copied 36gb of mp3's from my ageing 160gb Maxtor and it only took 15 minutes!

That copy would have probably been limited by your 160GB's read speed as well..
B1GBUD 7th October 2009, 22:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by B1GBUD
I installed my F3 last night and I can honestly say it's the dogs bollards. I copied 36gb of mp3's from my ageing 160gb Maxtor and it only took 15 minutes!

That copy would have probably been limited by your 160GB's read speed as well..

Well I've removed the Maxtor so all is well.

I have a question though, is it worth ditching my OS drives, 2 x 74GB Raptors (Striped) and replace them with another F3 or maybe 2!
Baz 7th October 2009, 22:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by B1GBUD
I installed my F3 last night and I can honestly say it's the dogs bollards. I copied 36gb of mp3's from my ageing 160gb Maxtor and it only took 15 minutes!

That copy would have probably been limited by your 160GB's read speed as well..

Well I've removed the Maxtor so all is well.

I have a question though, is it worth ditching my OS drives, 2 x 74GB Raptors (Striped) and replace them with another F3 or maybe 2!

Yep - RAID does bugger all for real world (game loads, boot times) and in those regards the F3 will dump all over an aging 74GB raptor.
B1GBUD 8th October 2009, 09:08 Quote
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What? no Temperature comparison? no wattage? this review blows.

Strangely, Speedfan doesn't show any temperature readings either....
badders 8th October 2009, 09:58 Quote
Anyone running linux will find that hddtemp works, also.
talladega 8th October 2009, 23:20 Quote
how about this short stroking?! no bindi, not the kind you are into, but the kind we are asking about. ;)
cybergenics 9th October 2009, 10:40 Quote
I have one of these (as of yesterday) and a Seagate 500GB single platter 7200.12. Both are subject to duff info in both Speedfan and HDTune. HD Tune says the Seagate is 11 degrees and it's been used for 8000 odd hours and the Samsung info is just hyphens. Might just be a case of the developers of these programs, updating them.

The write result I am getting is about the same as the Seagate 500GB (which is quicker than the 1TB Seagate 7200.12 for some reason) with the burst speed being more and the access being quicker and the read being slower but not by much. However both are 500GB per platter.
cybergenics 9th October 2009, 10:41 Quote
Got that the wrong way round, the read is about the same, slightly slower and the write is slightly faster on the Seagate.
chris_w 10th October 2009, 09:33 Quote
Why do you not review Hitachi Drives? I'd like to see a review of their new 2TB drive
pimonserry 10th October 2009, 20:01 Quote
I just bought one of these :o Thanks for the review ;)
Baz 12th October 2009, 12:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ult1mat3
What? no Temperature comparison? no wattage? this review blows.

We've already discussed wattage and the pointless nature of measuring it with consumer HDDs earlier in the thread the differences between drives are within the margin of error of PSUs, even between 5,200 and 7,200 models.

In regards to temperature, there's little to no way of reliably measuring it to generate any meaningful comparison between drives - differences in design mean internal sensors will be different components etc. These drives are rated up to 70°C+ anyhow, and needless to say a 2 platter drive isn't going to throw a huge amount of heat out.

In regards to this review"blowing" - consider this your first warning. That's not an acceptable attitude or way to express your opinion on these forums.
Bindibadgi 13th October 2009, 06:05 Quote
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Why do you not review Hitachi Drives? I'd like to see a review of their new 2TB drive
It's not out of choice, it's simply having someone at Hitachi to get us products to test!
Bongoman 14th October 2009, 14:20 Quote
This great review has made picking the HD for my new build later this month sooooo easy :D

THANKS bit tech, you rule!
SlashCom 24th October 2009, 14:42 Quote
Ordered mine yesterday, should arrive Monday :)
Afy 27th October 2009, 13:23 Quote
Thanks for the thorough review, sounds like a great drive.
I find myself reading the review after finding a bad sector in my Samsung F1 using HD Tune.
I'm now in a dilemma as to risk getting another samsung seeing as i've only had this one for a year, maybe im unlucky?
Does the existance of 1 bad sector mean my F1 is close to total failure?
Olias_of_Sunhilo 10th November 2009, 01:26 Quote
Just bought two of these beasts, set them in Raid 0, ghosted over my operating system and bingo- the best upgrade a hundred quid will buy you.
Serious performance under Windows 7 boots to log on screen in 23 Seconds, tested with HD Tach 3.04 gives 245Mb average read speed, and on one occassion I have no idea why 1895mb burst speed although retesting reveals its a shade under 400mb - Savage stuff compared to what I used to.
Buy This people SSD's aren't in this class for value and speed!
Baz 1st December 2009, 15:36 Quote
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Buy This people SSD's aren't in this class for value and speed!

Value yes, speed no. Just because HD tach says it delivers 245MB/s average read doesnt mean that's what you'll get. In my experience RAID only gives you performance boosts when dealing with consecutive files (such as writing/copying batches of MP3s, ISO files etc) but in circumstances where response speed is more important (booting windows, loading games) SSDs can't be touched.

Don't get me wrong - the F3 is the best hard disk drive out there but for performance it's still no substitute for a decent SSD - if only they were more affordable :(
Sleepy Ben 19th December 2009, 14:54 Quote
I've been using Western Digital drives mostly for the past few years (very reliable) and the odd Seagate (not quite so reliable with the firmware issues last year).

I wanted a new fast main drive and decided to try the Samsung F3.

I firmly believe the manufacturer should provide a utility for setting up a new drive including copying the contents across to make it the boot drive - I don't see why people should have to go through the hassle of a complete reinstall. With WD and Seagate their software has worked well for me and 90% of data gets copied properly. MS Office always needed a reinstall for some reason but that was a small inconvenience.

So I hooked up the F3 and already had Ontrack Diskeeper installed (from Samsungs website). Diskeeper took nearly 2 hours to install and copy the 200gb from my WD2500AAKS main drive. Booting up the Samsung led to a 'disk error' - I did the whole process again and again it wouldnt boot. I downloaded Acronis True Image and that did the process in half the time and now the Samsung booted up cleanly and all programs Ive tried so far including MS Office work fine.

I benched my drives with HDTach after a thorough defrag and ....
Seagate 500GB 7200.11 32mb cache - 12.2ms seek - 94.3 MB/s average read - 247.4 MB/s burst
Samsung F3 1TB 32mb cache - 13.5ms seek - 118.9 MB/s average read - 254.6 MB/s burst

As for noise - the WD was very quiet - the Seagate is audible but still quiet - the Samsung F3 is very audible. I wouldnt call it noisy like a Raptor but its certainly noisier than the others and you probably wouldnt want it in a Home Theatre PC. As for reliability - only time will tell.

So IMHO - it IS fast - its noisy and the provided software is crap - if I had the option to return it I'd probably go with a WD or Seagate.
jake9891 21st December 2009, 00:26 Quote
Received and installed F3 today, ran out of space on rest of my hdds (2x 500gb samsungs and 640 gb WD) :P I love that F3, might buy another one after xmas :)
Booga 28th December 2009, 21:11 Quote
I haven't heard my F3 whoop, but you can definitely hear it when it is writing to the disc.
My only concern was that when I am playing LOTRO I get very small lag spikes every time it writes to the drive.
I also just had some weird porblem where it could not detect the disc. I had to restart it several times before it started to boot and then ran disc check.
Pookeyhead 28th December 2009, 22:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sleepy Ben

I firmly believe the manufacturer should provide a utility for setting up a new drive including copying the contents across to make it the boot drive - I don't see why people should have to go through the hassle of a complete reinstall. With WD and Seagate their software has worked well for me and 90% of data gets copied properly. MS Office always needed a reinstall for some reason but that was a small inconvenience.


If you regularly back up with Ghost or something... you could just restore your image to the new drive with that... then you wouldn't have to put up with 90% of data being copied properly!! What's THAT about? I could fit a new drive in my rig now, restore using Ghost and 100% of everything would be there as if nothing had happened.
Invectus 15th February 2010, 16:39 Quote
this is the most obvious choice for storage atm, cheap performance!

I bought 4!
-x-hellfire 15th February 2010, 19:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pookeyhead
If you regularly back up with Ghost or something... you could just restore your image to the new drive with that... then you wouldn't have to put up with 90% of data being copied properly!! What's THAT about? I could fit a new drive in my rig now, restore using Ghost and 100% of everything would be there as if nothing had happened.

I did a Ghost with my single 1TB Samsung F1 and bought 3 x 1TB Samsung F3 and created a RAID 1 with two of them and restored with ghost but then it BSODs with 7B.... as the previous windows had not installed the RAID drivers.


Now I have installed Intel Matrix Storage Manager 8.9 and RAID support on the F1 it boots up from the Gigabyte Jmicron SATA2/RAID controller on the Gigabyte P35-DQ6 motherboard and then I can access the F3 on the Intel ICH9R controller but of what I understand it very difficult to change the registry afterwards on it, which need just a couple of lines changed.



I want to do a simple raid 1 upgrade.
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