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Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Review

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trig 6th October 2009, 14:29 Quote
thats just an awesome price. wont use them in builds, but may pick one up for myself...
j4ck3l 6th October 2009, 16:10 Quote
thanks for the review b-tech (y)
Zooter 6th October 2009, 16:13 Quote
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It’s been close to a year since the F1 originally hit store shelves though
753LJ is the 750GB version of the F1 right? That's been out for at least 1.5 years.
MiNiMaL_FuSS 6th October 2009, 17:53 Quote
EBUYER it's currently £56.88 with free supersaver delivery

Which is cheapest when you take in delivery.
Star*Dagger 6th October 2009, 17:53 Quote
We want to know does it WHOOOP? Or was that "feature" removed for flu season?
Jozo 6th October 2009, 18:32 Quote
Thanks for the review ;)
I wanted to buy 2 of these just the other day and now I'm sure I'll buy them.
Bindibadgi 6th October 2009, 19:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
We want to know does it WHOOOP? Or was that "feature" removed for flu season?

It does indeed Whoop.
pullmyfoot 6th October 2009, 19:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by mrb_no1
i am impressed with that, i might even try it to see if its better than my 150g raptor, but i wont change out my other 5 drives for it, for a start its only 1tb, i want bigger and most importantly, whilst seagate drives have failed over the years, my pc is running constantly for the most part so i dont see that to be a problem as the mighty samsungs would surely fail too.

still a very well done to samsung

I really don't understand you on this comment... Seagate drives have failed on you in the past and you take that to mean that Samsung drives will too... Why?
My PC is always on and only gets a restart (never shut down) once every week or two and my Samsung drive is still ticking away after 2 years. Now I understand that there will always be some point of failure, but why think Samsung drives will fail just because you know of another company's drives that have?

You also raise another issue though that I forget to mention... is there any word on the grapevine of either F3 or F2 2TB Drives from Samsung?


My WD external drive has been running almost 24/7 for 2 years. Its just a regular 320gb drive inside.
Queelis 6th October 2009, 19:43 Quote
I am SO getting a 500GB F3! Single platter ftw :)
Furymouse 6th October 2009, 20:24 Quote
I just realized I accidentally bought two of these when I thought I was buying F1's....GO ME!!!
Veles 6th October 2009, 20:50 Quote
Would love a pair of these in RAID1
bobwya 6th October 2009, 20:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
We've been talking in the office and are wondering if Samsung has some software that's similar to Seagate where you can limit the amount of drive space so the head only reads the outside of the drive. Say, 200GB of space but 4ms response? :D

Yeh +1 for a short stroking feature on this drive. At that price point and outer platter performance... :-)

I am glad you guys mentioned this suggestion and not some stupid "lets put 20x Samsung F3's in RAID 0" idea!!
wiak 6th October 2009, 21:17 Quote
Get One. <- i got two last week :p
Cupboard 6th October 2009, 23:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by leexgx
partition the disk 200gb sorted your short stroked your hdd (that all the segate/WD tool does nothing special, start of the disk is fast)

Would this actually work? My mental image is of filling a hard drive from the middle outwards (like a CD) so if you were to "short stroke" it using partitions you would have to put the partition at the back of the disk which may cause issues with operating systems?
talladega 6th October 2009, 23:20 Quote
Can one tell me how this 'short stroking' works and how to do it and when you should do it? Sounds interesting. Always looking for best performance.

I've got a 1TB Caviar Black, and two Seagate 250GB's I can use.
tin can 7th October 2009, 00:13 Quote
:D My gamble of getting three of these pre-review for my new Core i7 machine paid off!
salesman 7th October 2009, 01:24 Quote
I just ordered an F3 today, hopefully I get it before the weekend.
John_T 7th October 2009, 01:42 Quote
Thanks for the review guys - nice.

I'm with talladega, in that all this talk of 'short-stroking' is news to me - does it really make that much difference? (ie, 'real world' difference, not just shaving a few milliseconds off a benchmark result.)

If it does make a significant and tangible impact, then for around the £55+ these cost I could quite happily lose 700(ish)GB on one of these for a much faster boot/master drive.

That's assuming of course Samsung have/release the software.

As with Cupboard, I remain sceptical that just formatting 200GB would do it automatically, (how would you 'know' it's on the outer-rim?). I don't like making assumptions, especially if I were to risk ending up with a smaller AND slower drive...
Xir 7th October 2009, 08:40 Quote
...it's been possible to assign a small partition to the "outside" and use it as OS partition or even better "cachefile".
though it does take some tinkering (which I just can't be ar*sed to to anymore)
Any tools that to this automatically?
[USRF]Obiwan 7th October 2009, 10:17 Quote
hmmz instead of sacrificing 700GB of data I rather buy a fast small SSD for OS boot. Store cachefile on F3...
Bindibadgi 7th October 2009, 10:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
hmmz instead of sacrificing 700GB of data I rather buy a fast small SSD for OS boot. Store cachefile on F3...

But look at this logically: at 6p/GB, losing 700GB "loses" you £42, but you can't spend £42 on an SSD.

Even 300GB at £55 costs just 18.3p per GB, which is over 10x less than an SSD.
John_T 7th October 2009, 13:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
hmmz instead of sacrificing 700GB of data I rather buy a fast small SSD for OS boot. Store cachefile on F3...

But look at this logically: at 6p/GB, losing 700GB "loses" you £42, but you can't spend £42 on an SSD.

Even 300GB at £55 costs just 18.3p per GB, which is over 10x less than an SSD.

Exactly what I was thinking - as the cheapest halfway decent SSD is still a fair way over the £250+ mark for 128GB. (Or roughly 5x the price for 1/2 the capacity, which is 10x more expensive as you say).

I appreciate a short-stroked F3 still won't be approaching SSD performance in certain instances, but am intrigued to know what kind of improvement it would make.

Like overclocking a CPU for faster performance, but at the expensive of a probably shortened lifespan - I really quite like the idea of 'overclocking' my HDD for faster performance, but at the expense of losing some of its capacity...
John_T 7th October 2009, 13:35 Quote
(When I say 1/2 the capacity, I mean 1/2 the capacity of a short-stroked HDD - in case I wasn't being clear...)
mrbens 7th October 2009, 14:10 Quote
This is interesting.

Would bit-tech be prepared to run a test feature on stroking please? ;)
Bindibadgi 7th October 2009, 14:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by mrbens
This is interesting.

Would bit-tech be prepared to run a test feature on stroking please? ;)

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