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OCZ Vertex 120GB SSD

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Bauul 15th May 2009, 10:39 Quote
I think when 100Gb+ SSD drives start hitting the £100 sweet spot many consumers are happy to spend on storage, we'll see the move away from mechanical drives. At the moment, I feel even though the drive is clearly very capable, £300 on storage is an awful lot for your average consumer to swollow.
Bindibadgi 15th May 2009, 10:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
I think when 100Gb+ SSD drives start hitting the £100 sweet spot many consumers are happy to spend on storage, we'll see the move away from mechanical drives. At the moment, I feel even though the drive is clearly very capable, £300 on storage is an awful lot for your average consumer to swollow.

Very true.

But it's finally a damn good product that works, as an SSD and as a replacement for a hard drive. If you're serious above performance - this is the bottleneck for many systems.
oasked 15th May 2009, 11:15 Quote
Sweet. Give it a few more years when all the bugs have been ironed out and (most importantly) the price has come down, then I'll buy one. :)
yakyb 15th May 2009, 11:17 Quote
i have a feeling i will buy one of these early next year
mclintox 15th May 2009, 11:25 Quote
Still too rich for my blood,I'm never in that much of a rush from cold boot.These are the way to go,no doubt about that but,for now mechanical disk drives will suffice.Those of you who must be at the bleeding edge,go for it if you have the cash burning a hole in your pocket.
mclean007 15th May 2009, 11:50 Quote
Nice article - looks like an awesome device.
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Away from Iometer's synthetic tests and back firmly in the real world, the OCZ Vertex is just as fast, and with the latest firmware absolutely slaughters the competition when it comes to booting Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit. With an incredibly impressive time of just 27 seconds from cold boot to fully functioning desktop, using the latest v.1.1 firmware it's a full 6.5 seconds faster than Intel's SLC based X25-E. Awesome.
This doesn't seem to match the graph, which suggests there is effectively nothing to separate them (0.3s). Can you clarify?
[USRF]Obiwan 15th May 2009, 12:25 Quote
a very well done review, must have take ages to process all the bench tests. But rational thinking about the benefit of SSD verses costs;
Is it really that long to wait for a OS to start up or a game to load? No it is not, we doing it for years and those 20 seconds extra wont kill us.
is 120gb SSD cheap compared to the 1TB mechanical drives? No its not. If you are in a store and have to choose between a 327 pounds 120GB or a 100 pounds 1TB drive. We all will choose the 1TB without a doubt.
Baz 15th May 2009, 12:31 Quote
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This doesn't seem to match the graph, which suggests there is effectively nothing to separate them (0.3s). Can you clarify?

Thanks for the spot, that's my mistake. The result commentary was based on results we retested and found to be incorrect. The revised numbers were added into the review, but I missed editing the commentary. fixed!
Baz 15th May 2009, 12:34 Quote
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Obiwan]a very well done review, must have take ages to process all the bench tests. But rational thinking about the benefit of SSD verses costs;
Is it really that long to wait for a OS to start up or a game to load? No it is not, we doing it for years and those 20 seconds extra wont kill us.
is 120gb SSD cheap compared to the 1TB mechanical drives? No its not. If you are in a store and have to choose between a 327 pounds 120GB or a 100 pounds 1TB drive. We all will choose the 1TB without a doubt.

Once you've used a decent SSD like the Vertex for an extended period of time, going back to a sluggish HDD seems like the difference between running and walking. Everything seems more response, especially in the legendarily slugish Vista, applications and programs open noticeably faster, browsing files and folders is quicker, the whole operating system experience is improved.

While it's not really possible to test this increased responsiveness, booting off of the SSD just made the whole system feel faster and more responsive. Is £300 a lot to pay for 120GB? Certainly, but you get a lot more than faster boot and game loads for your money.
tank_rider 15th May 2009, 12:42 Quote
Great review and it's awesome to finally see a company sort out the controller side of things. As others have said, when I can get an OS size (100GB) or larger drive for £100 that'll be the tipping point for me to get one. By then performance should be absolutely eclipsing mechanical drives.
Grimloon 15th May 2009, 13:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]a very well done review, must have take ages to process all the bench tests. But rational thinking about the benefit of SSD verses costs;
Is it really that long to wait for a OS to start up or a game to load? No it is not, we doing it for years and those 20 seconds extra wont kill us.
is 120gb SSD cheap compared to the 1TB mechanical drives? No its not. If you are in a store and have to choose between a 327 pounds 120GB or a 100 pounds 1TB drive. We all will choose the 1TB without a doubt.

Once you've used a decent SSD like the Vertex for an extended period of time, going back to a sluggish HDD seems like the difference between running and walking. Everything seems more response, especially in the legendarily slugish Vista, applications and programs open noticeably faster, browsing files and folders is quicker, the whole operating system experience is improved.

While it's not really possible to test this increased responsiveness, booting off of the SSD just made the whole system feel faster and more responsive. Is £300 a lot to pay for 120GB? Certainly, but you get a lot more than faster boot and game loads for your money.

Imagine switching from a 7,200 RPM SATA2 drive back to a 5,400 RPM PATA drive. The difference is very noticeable, believe you me! Also, while there's little or no difference between the early 10K Raptor drives and the newer 7.2 K SATA 2 drives there really was when they first came out. I haven't tried an SSD yet but it's definitely up there on the list of hardware to buy.
Paradigm Shifter 15th May 2009, 13:14 Quote
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While it's not really possible to test this increased responsiveness, booting off of the SSD just made the whole system feel faster and more responsive. Is £300 a lot to pay for 120GB? Certainly, but you get a lot more than faster boot and game loads for your money.

I'll agree that boot times on an SSD are impressive and while a decrease of 7 seconds to load a level in Crysis is nothing to sneeze at... the decrease in boot times is far more impressive than the load times of Crysis. 30 seconds? 37 seconds? Honestly, I'm not too bothered about seven seconds in game loads... although cutting OS boot times down by 50% would be very nice indeed.

When SSDs reach the 'sweet spot' of £1/GB, then I'll bite for a boot drive. Hell, if a drive of performance like this reaches £1.50-2/GB I might bite.

Also, while it's not really feasible, it would be good to have a '12 months later' review on these SSDs, to show that after 'normal' usage for 12 months, performance degrades... or not.

I think I'd be crying if I was booting from that Seagate 7200.10, though. :)
badders 15th May 2009, 13:18 Quote
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I think I'd be crying if I was booting from that Seagate 7200.10, though. :)

Don't worry - I am!
pizan 15th May 2009, 13:49 Quote
Update the US price, now $369.99 on ZZF... so tempting
Bindibadgi 15th May 2009, 14:14 Quote
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Update the US price, now $369.99 on ZZF... so tempting

It's listed as price as reviewed.
TomH 15th May 2009, 14:49 Quote
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Wow! Out of the box the Vertex is ludicrously fast when it comes to sequential read speed across the drive, with a scorching 153.5 MB/s!
I think you mean sequential write speed? The graph indicates that you're testing write speeds.

Otherwise, very nice article. If only I could justify one.. :)
Cupboard 15th May 2009, 14:49 Quote
Can you actually use these 2.5" desktop SSDs in laptops, or are they slightly too big or power hungry?

This/these do seem rather good though. Interesting that the speed decreases with the new firmware in the Random Read Response Time (Maximum) graph, I really wouldn't have expected that as the newer one is faster in seemingly everything else.

Also, silly bit-tech with your screw drivers mishaps, I would have expected better from you!
leexgx 15th May 2009, 14:57 Quote
random access times page 4 remove the hard disks from the chart or put the numbers out side the bars as your software that makes them is not very smart (back to reading now page 5)
Htr-Labs 15th May 2009, 15:10 Quote
Excellent review Harry! Thank you for this....I will now be purchasing the 60GB Mac version on Newegg.
leexgx 15th May 2009, 15:14 Quote
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Can you actually use these 2.5" desktop SSDs in laptops, or are they slightly too big or power hungry?

This/these do seem rather good though. Interesting that the speed decreases with the new firmware in the Random Read Response Time (Maximum) graph, I really wouldn't have expected that as the newer one is faster in seemingly everything else.

Also, silly bit-tech with your screw drivers mishaps, I would have expected better from you!

lol with the screws

all SSDs will fit in laptops as SSDs are all laptop 2.5 standared format

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other note is 1.1 newer then 1275 (i asume thay just called it 1.1 to make it less confuseing) the Jumper is allso redundant in 1275 does not need to be used unless its below 1275

@Htr-Labs
make sure you update it as well once you got it
Htr-Labs 15th May 2009, 15:24 Quote
@leexgx - You bet...thanks for the tip about the jumper too. :D
Skiddywinks 15th May 2009, 15:41 Quote
Wow, the first SSD review that has actually made me seriously consider buying the drive in question. The only thing stopping me is still the damn price. That is a rediculous amount of money for 120GB, no matter how fast it is.

After reading this review, I am seriously wanting one. Everything that stopped me from buying an SSD (other than having no money!) seems to have been fixed, the performance is excellent, and even X25 toppling, and there seems to be no degradation.

Maybe over summer we will see some SSD prices drop even faster, especially if an apparently identical drive is soon to come out. Same performance at a cheaper price is great for competition. I guess we will have to wait and see, eh?

BTW, very well done on the review. Very in depth, and very interesting. It is always good seeing such an all encompassing review, covering absolutely everything the people will be looking to know.
Turbotab 15th May 2009, 15:46 Quote
Samsung is working on Phase Change RAM (PRAM), that could boost SSD's performance 30 times over current products, woot. Can you utilise SSDs in RAID, using conventional RAID controllers?
Cupboard 15th May 2009, 16:31 Quote
I don't see why not, they just "look" like standard hard drives don't they?
leexgx 15th May 2009, 17:32 Quote
no point in RAID with the vertex as its so fast it be better it just buy 1 (120gb for £330 or 240gb for an nice price of £630) use them as independant drive you get no perfomance useing 2 of them as on board RAID is limited to around 300MB/s any way and 1TB disk for cloneing SSD and big files

if your useing the JMicron SSD jobs its recommended to use RAID as it hide's the latency problems http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?gsk-ssd128 for 230 each (£460 for 2) use 2 of them and should be as good as the vertex but £100 cheaper but the vertex is more likey to be realable and when windows 7 comes if you use raid its unlikey windows 7 will know that its useing SSD

i seen these that seem intresting http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?CSR-SSD128 120GB for £180 (£360 as you want 2 so you get 240GB of space) and its SSD uses the samsung chip
it comes with 128mb of cache but speeds bit low 90MB read and 70MB write (same as an norm hard disk) but as its flash should be very fast on random access as thats what makes computers slow norm, id still recommend putting them both as indepandent drives stick games on second drive)

cant seem to find reviews on it (not any one who does good reviews)
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