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Logitech Speaker System Z623 Review

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Eggy 16th January 2011, 11:31 Quote
Z2300 still 2.1 king it seems.
memeroot 16th January 2011, 11:59 Quote
proper systems from 2nd hand land still king
EvilMerc 16th January 2011, 12:29 Quote
Think I'll be sticking with the X-230s I got for a tenner two years ago then...
[PUNK] crompers 16th January 2011, 12:51 Quote
for this money you can pick up the AE Aego M's, which would probably the better purchase. Although i havent heard these in person they seem to adhere to the logitech philosophy of louder is better which suits some but not all
greigaitken 16th January 2011, 13:22 Quote
even for £140, you can just manage to buy some speakers, a sub and an amp and it'll be way better
Gunsmith 16th January 2011, 13:23 Quote
I paid less then that for my Z5500's :/
rickysio 16th January 2011, 13:29 Quote
Get the Omega Super 5 XRS if you need a good one.
Phalanx 16th January 2011, 13:31 Quote
I'm currently running a set of Z4's from Logitech. Even with an old set like that, it sounds brilliant. I'm wondering if there's actually any major changes since then and the new series of speakers that seem to come out every month. Does design in a speaker (ie. Shape, etc) really make that much of a difference?

If someone is enough of an audiophile, wouldn't they be looking at higher spec equipment anyway?
MSHunter 16th January 2011, 15:10 Quote
go the amp and speaker route for sound quality. even this is better:
http://www.richersounds.com/information/hifisystems "System 1"

though to be honest for any real sound difference the first thing you need to do is buy a great sound card.
jrs77 16th January 2011, 15:44 Quote
Call me ignorant, but I still prefer good old stereo.

Surround-sound just doesn't fit together that well with a 2d-image (e.g. watching a movie, playing games etc.) and listening to music is still best in stereo.

With that said, I wouldn't even get a single one of my stereo-speakers for the 150 bucks this kit is selling for...
bulldogjeff 16th January 2011, 15:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ph4lanx
I'm currently running a set of Z4's from Logitech. Even with an old set like that, it sounds brilliant. I'm wondering if there's actually any major changes since then and the new series of speakers that seem to come out every month. Does design in a speaker (ie. Shape, etc) really make that much of a difference?

If someone is enough of an audiophile, wouldn't they be looking at higher spec equipment anyway?

Agreed, I've got the Z4 on the PC, but I've got a separate amp and speaker system set on the media rig.
mrbens 16th January 2011, 16:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
go the amp and speaker route for sound quality. even this is better:
http://www.richersounds.com/information/hifisystems "System 1"

though to be honest for any real sound difference the first thing you need to do is buy a great sound card.

Good point and good shop.

£141.75 is far too much for crappy PC speakers.

Like everyone is saying, go for decent hifi quality gear instead, even if it means paying around £200 for decent kit, it's well worth it. :)

Not sure how much difference a sound card makes when linked to an amp tho as the amp's DAC will probably be better than the sound card anyway and negate the need for the card. But that's just speculation.
rickysio 16th January 2011, 17:20 Quote
Skip the kiddies and go straight for the http://www.omegaloudspeakers.com/products/super8series
bulldogjeff 16th January 2011, 17:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by mrbens
Good point and good shop.

£141.75 is far too much for crappy PC speakers.

Like everyone is saying, go for decent hifi quality gear instead, even if it means paying around £200 for decent kit, it's well worth it. :)

Not sure how much difference a sound card makes when linked to an amp tho as the amp's DAC will probably be better than the sound card anyway and negate the need for the card. But that's just speculation.

A sound card will clean up the signal between the PC and the amp for a better sound, but it still depends how good the amp is for how good the sound is that actually hits your ears. In an ideal world you'd have a dedicated amp amp separate graphic equalizer.
GoodBytes 16th January 2011, 18:22 Quote
I have the Z-4 and I am not convinced with the speakers in the review in term of value.

The Z-4 look nicer, and comes with a wired remote, which I like a lot.
The ones in the reviews, for a higher price, doesn't have one, and they put the power with right speaker channel... They did that with the Z3, and it did not end well. All y Z-3 I know all have the same problem that occurs after a few years:
- If the cables moves power goes to the speakers, and you hear a loud "ZZZZ" from them, even if they are powered off.
- Static in the speakers
- Even wires getting worm

Clearly what happens is that over time, with moving the sub with my foot under my desk (same for my brothers, which had the same speakers), the power wires touches the speaker wires. I guess they used cheap quality wires.
The Z-4 solved the problem by doing like the Z-2300, where each wire is completely separated.

What I found strange, is I feel Logitech is dropping in quality lately. Even their new earphones have abysmal wire quality used, based on reviews. And that the Z-2300 was never updated since 2004.
docodine 16th January 2011, 18:24 Quote
Would you say these are better or worse than the Klipsch Promedia 2.1s?
Jipa 16th January 2011, 19:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
go the amp and speaker route for sound quality. even this is better:
http://www.richersounds.com/information/hifisystems "System 1"

though to be honest for any real sound difference the first thing you need to do is buy a great sound card.

Closet-sized Eltax speakers for £80? Yeah... NOT. Those sound like absolute crap and quite frankly it shouldn't come as a surprise that for the money you just aren't going to get decent floor standing speakers. Materials for the damn huge housing is going to cost half that, and you must divide the rest for three speaker cones and a 3-way x-over. Get the amp from the kit and something like the Tannoy F1 Customs from the same shop and you're already getting better quality for your money. (or look for second hand deals)

Yes, I might be a bit harsh here, but seriously I'm just trying to help people not waste their money by buying rubbish for which is likely going to be their first stereo set.

Oh and about the review.. For this cost I'd expect the set to come with a digital input. That would help people with truly hopeless analog outputs..
memeroot 16th January 2011, 20:14 Quote
my mate picked up some kef iq3 floorstanders for 50 quid....
Jipa 16th January 2011, 20:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by memeroot
my mate picked up some kef iq3 floorstanders for 50 quid....

Can't find floor standing iq3's anywhere. Also did he buy them new?

EDIT: with luck and second hand you can of course get all sorts of deals, but the Eltax speakers just aren't worth it.
Nature 16th January 2011, 20:45 Quote
I am surprised you (the author) did not include the basic specifications such as wattage, cord length, xbox 360 testing, and so much more... Things that are very important to someone looking to buy new speakers... It is weird to see a one page review (on something that is not a game) here at bit-tech too. You could of put more thought into this.
MSHunter 16th January 2011, 21:59 Quote
I really would like a new sound card review now that Asus have updated their drives it has made the Xonar cards much better then at launch. ASUS Xonar Essence STX
MSHunter 16th January 2011, 22:03 Quote
The entire point of that one was to says you can get much better for the same price at the logitech set. Not that the set is "Audiophile" quality.
Yes the F1's are much better and I use them.
They do of course cost around 100£ on their own.
Lockon Stratos 16th January 2011, 22:22 Quote
I personally would prefer if Logitech came up with a Z-5500 beater instead of 2.1 setups. Z5500's are so old and Logitech's #1 5.1 speaker set could do with some serious refreshing. - But like they said. if it aint broke dont fix it
mrbens 17th January 2011, 00:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
I really would like a new sound card review now that Asus have updated their drives it has made the Xonar cards much better then at launch. ASUS Xonar Essence STX

You need to check out audio expert websites if you want a proper review of something like the ASUS Xonar Essence STX. Not knocking bit-tech, they do a good job at testing hardware they can benchmark and compare, but for audio it's best to read a review from people that test audio devices as a living.

I have the Essence STX card and if you listen to a lot of music (even mp3, but lossless is better with high quality audio cards) through decent headphones on your PC then it is a noticeable improvement over onboard sound. Haven't tested it with speakers as I use 5.1 surround speakers through onboard connections for watching downloaded HD films and TV with HDMI to my plasma.

The Essence outputs analogue stereo, or surround out through SPDIF but my speakers use 3x 3.5mm inputs. My next upgrade will be decent AV amp Sony STRDH810 + surround speakers such as Jamo A102 or if I can stretch to it Boston Acoustics XS.
Phalanx 18th January 2011, 10:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lockon Stratos
I personally would prefer if Logitech came up with a Z-5500 beater instead of 2.1 setups. Z5500's are so old and Logitech's #1 5.1 speaker set could do with some serious refreshing. - But like they said. if it aint broke dont fix it

Maybe they've got data showing 2.1 setups are more popular? I don't know. Personally I would never buy a 5.1 or 7.1 setup as I just wouldn't know how to bloody position them without causing trip hazards and the like! 2.1 is fine for me. Sub under the desk, speakers on the desk or near it. Sorted.
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