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Asus ROG Claymore Review

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SMIFFYDUDE 14th February 2017, 19:32 Quote
Yeah, nope.

No keyboard can justify a £200 price tag. I fail to see how adding keys that go 'click' make it more expensive than many of their higher end motherboards.

The name made me roll my eyes as well.
bawjaws 14th February 2017, 19:48 Quote
Whilst I like the idea of a 60% board with a separate number pad, I don't like it enough to drop £200 on it :D I wonder if they'd have done better to sell this as a 60% board and make the numpad available to buy separately? I'd think that the market for mechanical keyboard users who want a detachable numpad and are willing to spend £200 to get it must be fairly small...
ChaosDefinesOrder 14th February 2017, 20:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by SMIFFYDUDE
I fail to see how adding keys that go 'click' make it more expensive than many of their higher end motherboards.

Have you tried typing for any length of time on one? They do genuinely make a difference to typing!

I've also been a skeptic of this in the past but one of the older computers at work has an original IBM model M (sadly splattered in solvents and inks over the years otherwise I'd totally "borrow" it) and it constantly surprises me with how much easier and faster it is to type on it!

The noise is a side-effect; the key movement action is the selling point...
Paradigm Shifter 14th February 2017, 21:08 Quote
Finally, someone has made a mechanical version of the Microsoft Sidewinder X6. Best non-mech keyboard I ever used. Loved the swappable numpad.

But £200? You're have a laugh.
Vault-Tec 14th February 2017, 22:34 Quote
The want is strong on this one. But if I paid £200 for a keyboard I would have to kick my own ass.

Love the numpad idea. More keyboards should have that.
RedFlames 14th February 2017, 23:20 Quote
So £150 without the number pad, £200 with...

... aww hell no.
ajfsound 15th February 2017, 07:26 Quote
£200 whaaaaaaaat?
Sentinel-R1 15th February 2017, 09:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Finally, someone has made a mechanical version of the Microsoft Sidewinder X6. Best non-mech keyboard I ever used. Loved the swappable numpad.

But £200? You're have a laugh.

I still have my Sidewinder X6 in my spares cupboard and will never get rid of it. I absolutely love that keyboard.
Paradigm Shifter 15th February 2017, 13:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sentinel-R1
I still have my Sidewinder X6 in my spares cupboard and will never get rid of it. I absolutely love that keyboard.

I still use mine (albeit on a system that doesn't get used as much any more...)
Blademrk 15th February 2017, 13:07 Quote
Does it interact with games?

I bought a Corsair RGB mech keyboard just before Christmas and having just got back into Diablo 3 was surprised that it interacted with the keyboard. The keys for active skills lit up when available (when used the keys backlight would disable and would then light back up once the skills cooldown had expired), the colours on keyboard would cycle when you leveled up, etc...
Anfield 15th February 2017, 23:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by ajfsound
£200 whaaaaaaaat?

There are people who spend that much on a PC Case which just sits there and provides no benefit over a £50 case beyond looking good.

The keyboard and mouse however are parts you touch for hours each day, so it really makes sense to invest in a keyboard and mouse you are really happy with even if that means paying a high premium.

That doesn't mean you should necessarily fork out £200 for this particular keyboard, but there is certainly a purpose to premium peripherals.
wardogz 15th February 2017, 23:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Finally, someone has made a mechanical version of the Microsoft Sidewinder X6. Best non-mech keyboard I ever used. Loved the swappable numpad.

But £200? You're have a laugh.

Yeah, bought my X6 when they first came out and i'm STILL using it :)
meandmymouth 16th February 2017, 11:24 Quote
This is the keyboard I've wanted for a while. I switch mouse between right and left hand frequently so always wanted to do the same with a number pad and it's now possible!

However, £200... nope.
Wwhat 16th February 2017, 20:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Blademrk
Does it interact with games?

I bought a Corsair RGB mech keyboard just before Christmas and having just got back into Diablo 3 was surprised that it interacted with the keyboard. The keys for active skills lit up when available (when used the keys backlight would disable and would then light back up once the skills cooldown had expired), the colours on keyboard would cycle when you leveled up, etc...

I was just thinking how they should add that to RGB keyboards, some interaction with applications/games. But there too you want a universal standard and there is none so far.
Wwhat 16th February 2017, 20:10 Quote
I can see how professional authors and such might want mechanical, but I am still wondering if it's worth it for gamers. And that's even without the huge (or even humongous) prize difference.
Taua 17th February 2017, 07:54 Quote
I've always wondered why quality scissor switches were never the switch of choice for gamers, they respond faster, are much quieter/kinder for teamspeak use, and are much cheaper...easier to clean too!

I guess people want to spend lots of money on things as a statement, to reinforce their image, a conspicuous consumption type of thing? £200 for a keyboard with a movable numpad...it's not like you can't scoop a mech numpad for peanuts on certain websites. Oh well, not my money.
FaIIen 17th February 2017, 16:17 Quote
seriously ...200 quid for a keyboard ?

i'll just leave this here:
motospeed ck104 RGB mechanical keyboard with red switches 40$ ..check the reviews, then please let me know if 200 pound prize for a keyboard is justified -.-
Wwhat 17th February 2017, 18:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by FaIIen
seriously ...200 quid for a keyboard ?

i'll just leave this here:
motospeed ck104 RGB mechanical keyboard with red switches 40$ ..check the reviews, then please let me know if 200 pound prize for a keyboard is justified -.-

Those keyboards use 'fake' cherry switches, that is to say a Chinese variety. Now normally that's fine but I heard a reviewer tell that unfortunately Chinese cherry types don't have a constant behavior across keys and individual keys might feel/respond slightly different. but that might not have been the same manufacturer though, although I believe it is.

Point is that you get 100+ cherry switches for another amount than you get Chinese copies for, and it's up to your sensitivity and trust and adeptness at ten finger typing (I assume any differences are mostly noticeable to those) as well as finances what you go for.

I for me expect I'd be fine with the motospeed, and would not pay 200 quid for a keyboard (which I invariably will hit in anger at some point too..).

Which brings us to the point where we ask bit-tech to do a comparison maybe and report their findings.
Anfield 17th February 2017, 19:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by FaIIen

i'll just leave this here:
motospeed ck104 RGB mechanical keyboard with red switches 40$ ..check the reviews, then please let me know if 200 pound prize for a keyboard is justified -.-

No choice of layout, wrong enter key shape (which makes finding fitting keycap set with UK layout even harder) not using Cherry switches, fixed Numpad, no dedicated media control buttons, less control over backlight, effectively zero warranty as not from a reliable brand.

No surprise the price is different, it is a completely different product.

Maybe try the Asus Strix Tactic Pro instead where you only lose the movable numpad and RGB but save half the price of the Claymore.
FaIIen 18th February 2017, 07:31 Quote
Let me remind you we're talking about switches, plastic thingies with springs inside. This product is way overpriced. You are going to be typing, your life does not rely on it . Usually extreme sports gear is overpriced and you can say ok if my life depends on it, but a keyboard? In reality Its a novelty item and it shouldn't go for that price.

Yes the asus has more features? Do you really need the detachable numpad and change of layout or dedicated media controlls??? Duno i would rather spend 200 quid extra on a cpu , gpu or extra pizza. It also sounds a bit ridiculous that you spent so much money on something so basic as akeyboard. Whats next ? Overpriced Led mousepads...oh wait.
davido_labido 18th February 2017, 09:31 Quote
The keyboard isn't for people who are looking for an expensive CPU or a keyboard, this is for those who want more from a keyboard and usually will have a good enough system to warrant it.

I have a few £250+ keyboards, even a £400+ that I have bought. I love them, do they do a huge deal more than a standard board, not really. Do I prefer them over a normal keyboard? Hell yeah! Are they worth the money? Well, yes, to me they are, I spend a lot of my time writing and using my keyboard physically, it gets used more than anything else on my computer.

I am not defending the price of the Claymore, £200 is a lot of money. A lot of people won't want to pay £200 for a keyboard and those people are not the targeted audience. There are plenty of cheaper boards on the market that will suit you fine. I personally wouldn't buy a Claymore due to me having to mod it so much to tweak it to how I like it and that would cost me another £130. I would rather buy a custom board to start with :D

It IS an extreme board, but it is very nice to use and certainly has its merits, for those who want to benefit from it and will use it a lot, price isn't generally an issue, people will pay if it is worth it to them :)
Anfield 18th February 2017, 09:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by FaIIen
It also sounds a bit ridiculous that you spent so much money on something so basic as akeyboard. Whats next ? Overpriced Led mousepads...oh wait.

I spend hours each day looking at the monitor, so I'm fine with spending a lot on it.
I spend hours each day touching the keyboard and mouse, so I'm fine with spending a lot on those.
Led mousepad? Wouldn't even use one if I got it for free.
azrael- 21st February 2017, 08:54 Quote
I couldn't quite glean it from the review, but is the software aware of the position of the numpad? Would be cool if you could define presets, and the software selects them based on the position.
JAMF 21st February 2017, 12:09 Quote
So it is kinda like Gigabyte's Aorus Thunder K7... except the numpad unit of the K7 can be used detached from the keyboard, which IMHO is a BIG plus.

http://www.aorus.com/Product/Features/THUNDER%20K7

Now if only they moved the cursor and HOME/DEL/etc. cluster onto the numpad unit, that would be well nice.
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