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Mad Catz Tritton Pro+ 5.1 Headset review

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Guinevere 12th October 2012, 09:29 Quote
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Apart from the attractive-looking, glossy-white headset

That's strange, I didn't see pictures of that in the review.

I only saw the ugly glossy white set with the red logo. You know the one that has "trying to not look like a knock-off transforms toy while still looking like a knock off transformers toy" look about it. And what's with that logo? Is it a t-shirt someone cut down the middle?

While the spec looks good, to my eyes it's another GAMER headset with GAMER style for GAMERS into GAMING with their GAMER gear produced by a company that knows all about GAMING and what GAMERS want.
wafflesomd 12th October 2012, 11:29 Quote
Design should really be 0/30. Seriously that is one of the worst, and most unnecessarily complex setups I've seen.

I feel like these gaming peripheral companies making headsets, completely forget that there is a market out there with headphones that are actually good, and much cheaper than what they're offering. $200 USD will net you a great set of cans. If you really need a mic, get a separate one. Even having them separate is an easier solution than the Tritton.
ChaosDefinesOrder 12th October 2012, 11:29 Quote
isn't that a DisplayPort connector?
edzieba 12th October 2012, 11:30 Quote
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Some might consider that the sign of a high-end piece of equipment
However they would be quickly disbused of that notion:
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We did notice some very slight electronic noise, but this was nothing compared to that when we used the headset alone with the PC adaptor.
Once they realise that line noise with an optical input, let alone unfiltered USB power, is a sign of terribly shoddy quality. Add to that the USB input having to volume control: my ancient XMOD happily controls volume via talking to windows and provides on-board audio processing and surround expansion (both turned off in my case) over USB with no drivers needed. And that was for £30, not £130 (admittedly you have to provide your won headphones, but there are plenty of good choices for £100).

Also, the review mentions a toggleable "Pro Logic II" option, which implies that the optical input does not accept 5.1 (i.e. 6 discrete audio channels), but rather upmixes stereo. All the Mad Catz website mentions is Pro Logic II and the nebulous "Dolby Digital" (which could mean any number of channels from 1 to 6). Is this a 5.1 headset that can't actually decode 5.1?!
TheDodoKiller 12th October 2012, 11:38 Quote
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providing the full range of sound affects using the decoder.

In that context, isn't it 'sound effects'?
true_gamer 12th October 2012, 12:25 Quote
I have this The AX Pro headset, and they sound mighty impressive connected to my laptop via the 3.5mm jacks without the decoder box.

Films/Games/Music sound awesome and crystal clear with ample of bass for any bass junkie!

I also find them very comfy to wear, and I think the design of them look cool, especially at night when the Orange logo glows. :)

I do find the 5.1 surround works very well, and BF3 sounds truly awesome.

I would recommend them to any gamer! :)
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Originally Posted by ChaosDefinesOrder
isn't that a DisplayPort connector?

Yes it is DP. :)
wafflesomd 12th October 2012, 12:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by edzieba
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We did notice some very slight electronic noise, but this was nothing compared to that when we used the headset alone with the PC adaptor.
Once they realise that line noise with an optical input, let alone unfiltered USB power, is a sign of terribly shoddy quality.

I think that might have more to do with a crappy amplifier than the optical input.
Zurechial 12th October 2012, 13:01 Quote
Just to be unreasonably pedantic..
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Very few that we've tried have come close to mimicking a 5.1 speakers (it's physically impossible to do this as our ears need cues from much larger surroundings than the confines of a standard headset ear pieces)

While this is vaguely true, saying that it's physically impossible isn't really correct; it's just that the solution would be to use decent HRTF processing rather than multiple speakers in the headphones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function

http://www.csounds.com/journal/issue16/multibin.html

It would be nice to see that kind of thing implemented in hardware processing in a set of so-called 5.1 headphones on the market sometime.
mi1ez 12th October 2012, 14:17 Quote
I don't see the point in a detachable microphone if it has a proprietary connector. You're never going to seen in public with these, just make the mic fold up to the headband.
Yslen 12th October 2012, 15:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zurechial
Just to be unreasonably pedantic..
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Originally Posted by article
Very few that we've tried have come close to mimicking a 5.1 speakers (it's physically impossible to do this as our ears need cues from much larger surroundings than the confines of a standard headset ear pieces)

While this is vaguely true, saying that it's physically impossible isn't really correct; it's just that the solution would be to use decent HRTF processing rather than multiple speakers in the headphones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-related_transfer_function

http://www.csounds.com/journal/issue16/multibin.html

It would be nice to see that kind of thing implemented in hardware processing in a set of so-called 5.1 headphones on the market sometime.

Am I the only person who plays games with a pair of headphones and a non-gaming sound card and finds positional audio is already perfectly fine? It's not like it's CPU intensive to build it right into the game engine.
edzieba 12th October 2012, 18:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd
I think that might have more to do with a crappy amplifier than the optical input.
Exactly: if you're getting noise over something with no electrical connection, you've got some exceptionally badly designed circuitry in there somewhere.
Star*Dagger 13th October 2012, 18:32 Quote
I have used the predecessor to this unit, and it has outlasted 2 back up headphone sets. Buy Tritton, you will not be sorry.
bagman 13th October 2012, 18:47 Quote
I had the AX pro headset, biggest piece of crap I have ever bought, and I would advise everyone to avoid this as well. Gaming wise Razer Chararis...? thingy is a lot better, but even that I wouldn't recommend as mine keeps on braking all the time. You don't need all this 5.1 surround rubbish. You need a good pair of stereo headphones which have a large sound stage. Some excellent headphones for this are the Audio Technica AD700. But you should also get a decent sound card. At least the Asus xonar DX, the sound quality is superb and the software really helps this card outperform any other sound card in its price bracket.

I feel I should do my own thread on gaming headphones.
aedwards 13th October 2012, 19:23 Quote
Is this a production unit? If so, how did it get that far without someone spotting that they'd spelled 'output' wrong on the back?

Makes you wonder about the quality control on the rest of it...
Gradius 13th October 2012, 22:41 Quote
Ugly thing!
sandys 13th October 2012, 23:40 Quote
USB connection is seperate soundcard for comms not game audio, when set up correctly you can independently set the level for sound and comms via inline remote, it is also the source for noise if you don't have it wired right or in use with the volume set to max, turn it down, no issue.

I use similar on PC/PS3 and 360 and just switch opticals into the decoder with optical switch and usb in my 4way usb switch, jobs a good 'un :D
BLC 15th October 2012, 12:11 Quote
I wanted some decent headphones a little while ago, so I went for a pair of Grados. I started recording voiceovers for YouTube videos earlier this year, and I used the microphone in my webcam. I'm looking to upgrade that to a proper microphone now, so that I can use a pop filter, a proper mount, have better quality etc..

Moral of the story? Buy a peripheral that's designed to do one job and do it well. I don't need a poor quality microphone on my headphones, I don't need an extra box or complicated wiring just to use my headphones (especially not when I already have an external audio interface) and I don't need 5.1 sound packed into such a small space when I already have a perfectly good 5.1 speaker system.

Please please stop making "Gamer" peripherals, stop trying to pack more and more features into everything and just design a device that does it's job well.
MidnightKhaos 24th October 2012, 03:49 Quote
k i was wondering if i could get some help....the headset isnt recieving any power from the main box ....no lights on the headset.....can i get some help please i've only had these for 2 days
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