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Corsair Vengeance 2000 Wireless Headset Review

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Anakha 21st June 2012, 07:51 Quote
If you want your existing soundcard's output to go wireless, you could always grab a Miccus BluBridge TX, which'll convert any audio source into an AD2P audio stream over bluetooth (with an internal li-ion battery too, though you can also use it with it's included mini USB charging cord while it's active). And if you want to use your own headphones with it, even wired ones, grab a Miccus BluBridge RX too. The RX (at least) works wonders, and has little in the way of quality loss, excellent range, and long internal battery life.
[PUNK] crompers 21st June 2012, 07:57 Quote
And if you want decent headphones get a desktop mic and a pair of sennheisers
feathers 21st June 2012, 08:44 Quote
And if you want real positional audio get surround speakers. I can't count the times a review site have stated they could accurately determine footsteps using a "surround" headset. Every pair I have tested failed to deliver positional audio. It's a gimmick and people misinterpret wide spacial image with accurate positional audio.
Elton 21st June 2012, 09:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by feathers
And if you want real positional audio get surround speakers. I can't count the times a review site have stated they could accurately determine footsteps using a "surround" headset. Every pair I have tested failed to deliver positional audio. It's a gimmick and people misinterpret wide spacial image with accurate positional audio.

To be fair a good surround set (not that logitech crap) can run up to some serious cash. Unless you're good at used speaker hunting and own a decent DAC Reciever, sound cards are woeful for driving a true surround set.

Truth be told I prefer having a good set of stereo speakers simply because it sounds better, positional audio or not. These are just merely good set "surround" headsets.

But for me, I'll settle very happily for a good pair of stereo headphones with 2-channel positional audio. To hell with emulated 5.1.
Baz 21st June 2012, 10:38 Quote
Guys, we appreciate your comments, but we review for consumers, not audiophiles. Most people are not audiophiles. Most don't want to spend £100s on DACs, amps, studio monitors, bluetooth bridges and the like. At least personally, I want something that comes out of the box, plugs in, and sounds great. If we started testing the gear you all suggest, I'd end up recommending braided platinum speaker cables and telling our readers they need to spend £1000s on separate tweeters and sub-woofers. This isn't the readership bit's audio reviews target; there's a big market for people that want dedicated headsets and we provide advice for them. In this instance, dedicated wireless ones. Picking holes (for example, the desktop mic and headphone combo) somewhat misses the point of a dedicated wireless headset doesn't it?

I'm not saying don't provide your opinions, but try and be reasonable.
Thedarkrage 21st June 2012, 11:04 Quote
I just want one that connects to my sound card. It cant be that hard can it?
Diosjenin 21st June 2012, 11:06 Quote
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we’ve yet to see a wireless headset that lets you use an existing sound card

Astro has several options: http://www.astrogaming.com/
Baz 21st June 2012, 11:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Diosjenin
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we’ve yet to see a wireless headset that lets you use an existing sound card

Astro has several options: http://www.astrogaming.com/

Was all interested there, then say price; $280 + extras. Owch.
sub routine 21st June 2012, 11:23 Quote
Ive got a surround sound headset and its pretty average.

My favourite setup I use is my XFI music and a set of grado SR80 headphones. The pseudo surround sound placement with the quality of the heaphones is EXCELLENT. Its just the headphones are open back so negate the whole reason for using headphones and can get uncomfy after a decent spell. You will be hard pushed to get better headphones for the money though
[PUNK] crompers 21st June 2012, 12:39 Quote
I'm by no means an audiophile but I do appreciate a bit of common sense. To me £120 seems a hell of a lot for this product and imo would be better spent on a decent (but not top end) pair of sennies and desktop mic, you can even get good sounding wireless sets for around that price. I don't feel like I was being particularly obstructive or off topic with my comment.
feathers 21st June 2012, 14:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Elton
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Originally Posted by feathers
And if you want real positional audio get surround speakers. I can't count the times a review site have stated they could accurately determine footsteps using a "surround" headset. Every pair I have tested failed to deliver positional audio. It's a gimmick and people misinterpret wide spacial image with accurate positional audio.

To be fair a good surround set (not that logitech crap) can run up to some serious cash. Unless you're good at used speaker hunting and own a decent DAC Reciever, sound cards are woeful for driving a true surround set.

Truth be told I prefer having a good set of stereo speakers simply because it sounds better, positional audio or not. These are just merely good set "surround" headsets.

But for me, I'll settle very happily for a good pair of stereo headphones with 2-channel positional audio. To hell with emulated 5.1.

Logitech X-540 5.1 cost me about £50 and has a very good sound for gaming, movies and even music listening. It's quite balanced (not deficient of high or mids). Headphones = HD595. The headphones on review here would be good if they have the sonic clarity described. I just don't like headphones being mis-sold on the basis of providing 'accurate positional audio'. It's a lie but it happens across countless review sites.
billysielu 21st June 2012, 15:58 Quote
Sennheiser RS180
Logitech USB Desktop Mic
Ratchet219 21st June 2012, 16:32 Quote
Why do I get sconstant quiet sss sound in my 7.2 surround? Is that normal? I'm using ONKYO receiver.
silky 21st June 2012, 17:20 Quote
Why do people prefer it to go via their sound card? Is the quality straight in to headphones not very good?
Elton 21st June 2012, 18:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ratchet219
Why do I get sconstant quiet sss sound in my 7.2 surround? Is that normal? I'm using ONKYO receiver.

It's probably your sound output playing your mic. Turn off the listen to your mic or your input volume on your output controls (Sounds weird eh?)
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Originally Posted by silky
Why do people prefer it to go via their sound card? Is the quality straight in to headphones not very good?

Usually running your headphones through a sound card means better analog playback. A good sound card has a good DAC (not amp!). And therefore better sound. It's not that regular DAC( digital to audio converter) on onboards are bad, just that a sound card more often than not sounds better.
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Guys, we appreciate your comments, but we review for consumers, not audiophiles. Most people are not audiophiles. Most don't want to spend £100s on DACs, amps, studio monitors, bluetooth bridges and the like. At least personally, I want something that comes out of the box, plugs in, and sounds great. If we started testing the gear you all suggest, I'd end up recommending braided platinum speaker cables and telling our readers they need to spend £1000s on separate tweeters and sub-woofers. This isn't the readership bit's audio reviews target; there's a big market for people that want dedicated headsets and we provide advice for them. In this instance, dedicated wireless ones. Picking holes (for example, the desktop mic and headphone combo) somewhat misses the point of a dedicated wireless headset doesn't it?

I'm not saying don't provide your opinions, but try and be reasonable.

Understandable, it isn't a bad solution at all. I would be inclined to buy it but outside of the wireless functions I personally don't find this all that compelling.

Mind you it wasn't a bad review at all. Perhaps just not my taste. ;)
SolidShot 21st June 2012, 20:55 Quote
mine arrived yesterday. It hasnt left my head. Its an awesome awesome experience and i could NEVER go back to not having a headset.

For the average gamer, brilliant. Not only that, but sons of anarchy sounded pretty epic though it too. A seriously nice bit of kit.
feathers 22nd June 2012, 10:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by SolidShot
mine arrived yesterday. It hasnt left my head. Its an awesome awesome experience and i could NEVER go back to not having a headset.

For the average gamer, brilliant. Not only that, but sons of anarchy sounded pretty epic though it too. A seriously nice bit of kit.

Well that's the most important thing. If it's good enough for music then that is good. Wireless is a big plus and of course the mic for gaming.
MSHunter 24th June 2012, 15:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
This isn't the readership bit's audio reviews target; there's a big market for people that want dedicated headsets and we provide advice for them. In this instance, dedicated wireless ones. Picking holes (for example, the desktop mic and headphone combo) somewhat misses the point of a dedicated wireless headset doesn't it?

I'm not saying don't provide your opinions, but try and be reasonable.

Oh really? Funny how there are absolutely no figures or numbers or anything quantifiable in this so called review. Not to mention the fact that it reviews one and only one headset and doesn't even place it with other headsets that have been reviewed. SHAME ON YOU!

What you mean is this is a recommendation as it does not fulfill any requirements to be an actual review.
silky 24th June 2012, 15:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Elton

Usually running your headphones through a sound card means better analog playback. A good sound card has a good DAC (not amp!). And therefore better sound. It's not that regular DAC( digital to audio converter) on onboards are bad, just that a sound card more often than not sounds better.

Thanks :)
Deders 24th June 2012, 15:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by sub routine
Ive got a surround sound headset and its pretty average.

My favourite setup I use is my XFI music and a set of grado SR80 headphones. The pseudo surround sound placement with the quality of the heaphones is EXCELLENT. Its just the headphones are open back so negate the whole reason for using headphones and can get uncomfy after a decent spell. You will be hard pushed to get better headphones for the money though

I'm used to a full 5.1 setup but whilst I'm staying at a m8's I'm using (quality) earphones, been experimenting with Cmss3D on my Xtreme Gamer whilst playing Arkham City and Max Payne 3 but I don't really get any positional sounds. The helicopter test works ok in the cpl, but in game i think it sounds better with it turned off

Would have thought that with Cmss3d, it would fool the game into thinking there were more speakers than just 2, then translate those audio streams into a pseudo stereo surround mix, but the only options I get in Max Payne is headphones or speakers.

I don't understand how stereo surround technology can accurately interoperate where sounds are coming from and accurately represent them from a stereo mix. Am I doing it wrong?
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
Oh really? Funny how there are absolutely no figures or numbers or anything quantifiable in this so called review. Not to mention the fact that it reviews one and only one headset and doesn't even place it with other headsets that have been reviewed. SHAME ON YOU!

What you mean is this is a recommendation as it does not fulfill any requirements to be an actual review.

The problem here is that Figures don't translate in to audio experience. A lot of it is down to personal preference, but as an extreme example, a £5 set of earbuds that advertise a 20hz-20KHz frequency range won't be able to reproduce those frequencies as accurately or with anything like as much definition as a set of £150 earbuds that might have the same range printed on the box.

There are so many subjective factors figures would be meaningless.
MSHunter 24th June 2012, 17:52 Quote
Yes those are the wrong figures to look at, Mr. obvious!
How about signal to noise ratio?

Or comparing to other headsets at the very least in relation to other ones that have been "reviewed" here. Like:
Asus Vulcan ANC Review

Razer Carcharias Review

Sharkoon X-Tatic SX Review

Corsair HS1A Review

Corsair Vengeance 1300 Review



It should not be to hard to at least place it in relation to your own other reviews and link them. I know Audio is not your expertise on a PC review site, but this just seems, well, lazy to be honest.

Have a look here:
http://gaming-headsets-review.toptenreviews.com/

Not audiophile, but at least they make a good attempt at comparing a range of headsets.
Deders 24th June 2012, 18:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
How about signal to noise ratio?

Signal to noise ration is only one aspect but it can be a helpful guideline. Still wouldn't judge any equipment purely on SNR which is why...
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Originally Posted by MSHunter


Or comparing to other headsets at the very least in relation to other ones that have been "reviewed" here. Like:
Asus Vulcan ANC Review

Razer Carcharias Review

Sharkoon X-Tatic SX Review

Corsair HS1A Review

Corsair Vengeance 1300 Review

Would be helpful.
BLC 25th June 2012, 14:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by Baz
Guys, we appreciate your comments, but we review for consumers, not audiophiles. Most people are not audiophiles. Most don't want to spend £100s on DACs, amps, studio monitors, bluetooth bridges and the like. At least personally, I want something that comes out of the box, plugs in, and sounds great. If we started testing the gear you all suggest, I'd end up recommending braided platinum speaker cables and telling our readers they need to spend £1000s on separate tweeters and sub-woofers. This isn't the readership bit's audio reviews target; there's a big market for people that want dedicated headsets and we provide advice for them. In this instance, dedicated wireless ones. Picking holes (for example, the desktop mic and headphone combo) somewhat misses the point of a dedicated wireless headset doesn't it?

I'm not saying don't provide your opinions, but try and be reasonable.

I really hope you wouldn't start recommending "platinum" cables or any such nonsense for any digital signal cable, because they are a complete and utter scam (as is much of the "audiophile" world if you ask me, but let's not go there).

There's certainly an argument to be made for paying for quality, but you don't have to spend £500 (or even £50) on a digital cable.
MagR 28th June 2012, 13:09 Quote
I use an external usb headphone amp and dac from Fiio with Sennheiser HD 280's and it sounds good. No mic though as I don't play multiplayer games.
SpAceman 1st July 2013, 09:00 Quote
Right I know this review is a bit old but I need to put my experience out there.
I have just returned my third Vengeance 2000. All three broke in the same way after a few months.

The headband often cracks just above the cups as seen in this image.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1682/img0602uo.jpg

The Corsair forums are filled of posts from people with the same issue. I will give credit where due. Corsair have been very good at accepting all returned headsets with this fault. If you post in their forum with your RMA number they will accept it asap.

I swapped my third broken headset with a Logitech G930 at my local retailer so I wont have to keep getting new V2000s every few months.

The audio quality of this headset is amazing. The build quality is shocking.
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