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Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Review

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FvD 17th July 2011, 16:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by the_kille4
and that makes the key board less and less mainstream which I don't think Razer wants to do. but then one can also blame the dudes who pushed the membrane based keyboards since they are cheaper.

But, assuming good care, mechanical boards easily outlast their rubber dome (membrane) counterparts.
There is potential to save money in the long run, but that is not compatible with todays mainstream "throwaway society": buy cheap, buy plenty/often. It Keeps investors happy.
Rofl_Waffle 17th July 2011, 19:01 Quote
I have the keyboard and it isn't nearly as bad as what the review makes it out to be. Just a very pessimistic review and half the point doesn't even matter.

The unconventional font for the keys is just personal preference. I don't mind.

The shift symbols being labeled under the main keys is more or less preference as well. I don't care since it is pretty obvious that you must press shift for symbols such as @ and underscore and +.

I guess you can be confused by if you are still learning how to use a keyboard. Hammering away with your index fingers and looking to make sure you hit every single key right. But honestly, a keyboard priced so high, how much of the customer base fits that description.

Now for the coating, I actually prefer it over to simple hard plastic. The slight rubber coating isn't too grippy and isn't too smooth. It is more durable and doesn't get smoothed over into flat unrecognisable keys within several months of use. Personal preference really.

The backlight being only blue..... sim sorry but only someone who knows nothing about mechanical keyboards would complain about that. Due to it being mechanicaly, it doesn't have a membrane to diffuse light into each key so each key must be individually lit. Its not possible to fit multiple LEDs in each key, thats why mechanical keyboards only come in one color backlight or no backlight at all. Its not a feature that was excluded from the keyboard, rather its a feature you really shouldn't expect to have at all.

Same with the sound, you can't go shopping for mechanical keyboards and expect them to be super quiet.

Membrane keyboards don't get really bad reviews because their keys aren't mechanical, so why should a mechanical keyboard loose so much point in the review for not being membrane.

All in all, I find the Black Widow to be a great keyboard if you want a backlit mechanical keyboard. The only thing missing is PS2 but having only 6KRO isn't that much of a downer.
the_kille4 17th July 2011, 19:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Rofl_Waffle

Now for the coating, I actually prefer it over to simple hard plastic. The slight rubber coating isn't too grippy and isn't too smooth. It is more durable and doesn't get smoothed over into flat unrecognisable keys within several months of use. Personal preference really.

The backlight being only blue..... sim sorry but only someone who knows nothing about mechanical keyboards would complain about that. Due to it being mechanicaly, it doesn't have a membrane to diffuse light into each key so each key must be individually lit. Its not possible to fit multiple LEDs in each key, thats why mechanical keyboards only come in one color backlight or no backlight at all. Its not a feature that was excluded from the keyboard, rather its a feature you really shouldn't expect to have at all.

I do love the coating but I just hope it lasts long though since the letters are just laser engraved so once the coating starts to come off the keys become illegible.

If you wanted a "different" color for the keys you can always buy the Dragon Age II edition like I have. I prefer red because visually it is less striking than the blue. But this is also down to preference.
DarkLord7854 17th July 2011, 23:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by the_kille4
I do love the coating but I just hope it lasts long though since the letters are just laser engraved so once the coating starts to come off the keys become illegible.

I've had mine since they released it, the coating is wearing off a bit, but the key symbols are not.



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Originally Posted by the_kille4

here is the geekhack review
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13224
so according to them, NKRO keyboards are less likely to have back-lighting (which for me is important) and more expensive. considering that and since razer did try to make a more "mainstream" gaming keyboard ... it is a great keyboard

Wow, their review makes BT's look like a complete joke.
KiNETiK 18th July 2011, 10:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

Wow, their review makes BT's look like a complete joke.

Agreed
bobwya 18th July 2011, 11:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by the_kille4

here is the geekhack review
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13224
so according to them, NKRO keyboards are less likely to have back-lighting (which for me is important) and more expensive. considering that and since razer did try to make a more "mainstream" gaming keyboard ... it is a great keyboard

Yeh nice site and a very detailed review. Shame the BT ""review"" felt like a bit like a chat down the pub. You'd get away with that for 5.00 GBP PS/2 keyboard - not a >100.00 GBP keyboard. People want detail - not waffle - for that size of outlay!

I've taken apart my Razar Tarantula keyboard. There is just a ZX Spectrum keyboard hiding under there... For anyone typing a lot I can see the appeal of an expensive mechanical keyboard...
Kaiwan 18th July 2011, 12:11 Quote
That's a much more in depth review.

I was really put off by BTs review now I'm undeceided again.
uz1_l0v3r 18th July 2011, 13:50 Quote
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£108 for a keyboard....you have to be utterly brain dead to pay that much for a Keyboard.

Or just be braindead to not understand why mechanical keyboards cost more...

Yes, how stupid someone must be to not understand that...
logan'srun 19th July 2011, 08:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by McSteel
Steelseries 6Gv2.

Everything else is a gimmick for me... Well, I would've liked to be able to purchase Deck keyboards, but I'll settle for what I can have.

+1. I picked up the 6GV2 when it was released and it is the best keyboard I have ever owned. I bottom out the keys slightly, but I have heavy hands and since I don't program or spend all day on forums I don't care if I get a little noise. I quite like it actually as it reminds me of the days of hacking around on the Commodore 64 as a kid and the heavy keyboards of my youth. I would have liked some backlit keys as well, but I detest blue and DECK will never make a scandinavian layout. Filco wasn't available with my layout when the G was introduced, so I picked that up as it was also less expensive.

I haven't looked back and won't go back to membranes again.
SolidShot 19th July 2011, 09:34 Quote
i have a £3.95 keyboard, and it works just fine. Anyone who pays over £25 for a keyboard clearly isnt getting laid enough...
DarkLord7854 19th July 2011, 10:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by logan'srun
+since I don't program or spend all day on forums I don't care if I get a little noise.

I program all day, I love the noise/feel
[USRF]Obiwan 19th July 2011, 15:00 Quote
What a fail keyboard... Removing the pipe/slash key between Enter and Backspace what where they thinking? Laptop like keyboards is also fail. Especialy for 'lefties' like me, i really can't get used to wasd, it is totaly confusing for me. Not to mention the spacing between keys is to small for my fingers.
Grimloon 19th July 2011, 15:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
What a fail keyboard... Removing the pipe/slash key between Enter and Backspace what where they thinking? Laptop like keyboards is also fail. Especialy for 'lefties' like me, i really can't get used to wasd, it is totaly confusing for me. Not to mention the spacing between keys is to small for my fingers.

The reviewed one is the UK layout mate. We put the \, @ and # in the right places :p The regular US edition has the layout you're more familiar with.

Owing to the number of keyboards I've been through in the last few years I've been considering a mechanical one for a while now. Looks like this one isn't it though, much as I rather like Razer kit generally it just looks wrong to me (font, shape, everything really) and I want something smaller rather than larger for my desktop. Oh well, guess I keep looking then!
L2wis 20th July 2011, 08:34 Quote
3 please! £100+ for a keyboard what a joke.
Fizzban 20th July 2011, 15:04 Quote
What bothered me was the ONE tiny picture in the mag review. One picture and a small one a that. Guys if ya gonna take the time to review something please give us decent shots of the damn thing. I already feel like I've read half the mag by the time it arrives. I'm feeling more and more that I should just read the reviews here rather than buying the mag. Would save me £40 a year that's for sure!
leslie 21st July 2011, 00:27 Quote
Sorry, Bit-Tech, but you really failed on this review.
You started with a dislike, then tore it down from there without ever really explaining why or what the keyboard really was meant for. It wasn't a review, it was an assassination. The reviewer seemed to have their mind made up before they even opened the box and was just looking for ways to tear it down. The Geekhack review was pretty much spot on.

I'm not saying the keyboard is perfect. I HATE the blue illumination, it's hard on my eyes (I may swap the LEDS, for now I leave them off) and I hate the font. The key texture is irrelevant, the reviewer made way more over it than should have been made, I never even noticed it.

It's a mechanical keyboard with gaming features and backlights, of course it's not cheap, but go price an old IBM Model M or other mechanical, or better yet, some of the crappy "gaming" keyboards out there. $130 for a solid mechanical with these features really isn't that bad. The Expert model is actually quite a deal and there are rubber grommets you can get that will quiet the keys (just ordered some). Had I not gotten lucky and got an open box Ultimate for Expert price, I would have just got an Expert.


One thing Razer flubbed was the pass through.
The right side is a bad place, I agree, but it's a perfect spot for a Logitech Unified Receiver. You won't get much closer to your mouse. Overall though, it's a great keyboard.
the_kille4 28th July 2011, 07:53 Quote
If people really wanted multi-color back lighting Razer could have asked Cherry to implement tri-color leds (somehow). But unlike membrane based keyboards that only utilise only a couple of leds and let it spread out over a large area. However, due to the construction of the switches they can only allow one led per key. Now there are approx 100 switches that need leds, and if all of these were tri-color the wiring would be so complex, it would be a nightmare for the Razer guys to make the keyboard affordable.
Wwhat 30th July 2011, 03:23 Quote
I am getting a bit tired of the 'color' black for keyboards.
Pot Of Jam 6th February 2013, 12:27 Quote
I Agree with alot of what was said in this review, but as a touch typist I dont care what the keys look like, I think they were just looking for things to hate by that point, but the keyboard is a good board.

Only a few keyboards allow you to turn lights on and off of individual keys, these are tenkeyless models at a cost of £70 - £130 and are made by Ducky.

considering the Logitech version of a mechanical keyboard cost a stagering £150 and most other gaming keyboards (that are illuminated) cost around the same or more I think the blackwiddow is no more or less then the others in the market (Qpad is £130 and has the same features as the BW).

As for key clickyness, now this is a personal opinion, if the reviewer doesnt like it then it shouldnt reflect on the overall conclusion of the review. I personaly love the clickyness of the board, so I KNOW when a key has been struck during game play with a headset on, if other people don't like it then I'm afraid thats not an issue with the keyboard.

To those that think that £100 is exspensive for a keybord then you are right, but, compairing a membrain keyboard to a mechanical keyboard is like compairing chalk and cheese, there compleatly different feeling and response, I personaly use both and at home I will never go back from a mechanical keyboard.

Would I buy another razor one... well thats not certain at the moment.
Shirty 6th February 2013, 13:11 Quote
The biggest issue I had with the BlackWidow, which I didn't realise until I had replaced it with something more robust, is the flimsy build quality. It just isn't built to a standard you'd expect a £120 product to be made to. The keycaps wobble, have moulding marks on them and there have been numerous reports of faults with the backlighting, keycaps colliding with one another and software issues.

The other big issue I had with mine - admittedly the non-backlit version - was that the lettering in the WASD cluster started to discolour after only a few months of light usage, indicating that there is no protective coating on the caps.

I'd also question whether Cherry MX blue switches were ever the right idea for an ostensibly gaming keyboard, but I agree with you that it's entirely subjective, as are the looks of the board and the font.

I would argue that if you moved from the BlackWidow to a Ducky (or any other leading mechanical keyboard if backlighting isn't important) you would never choose go back to the Razer. It's not a bad product, but it's quite far down the food chain in the £120 range and bafflingly not available with linear switches..
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