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Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Review

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jakobfrimmel 16th July 2011, 11:49 Quote
i usually like Razer products ..... but from the sound of this review this isnt what i would buy....
XXAOSICXX 16th July 2011, 12:12 Quote
A keyboard so good, I bought two....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/RAPTOR-GAMING-K1-Keyboard-USB-retail/dp/B000AYB02S

Razer for mice.

Raptor for keyboards.
McSteel 16th July 2011, 12:20 Quote
Steelseries 6Gv2.

Everything else is a gimmick for me... Well, I would've liked to be able to purchase Deck keyboards, but I'll settle for what I can have.
SpAceman 16th July 2011, 13:49 Quote
Sure for some people the clicking noise can be annoying but if you aren't bothered by it then this keyboard is really nice to use. I have a friend who has one and he loves it.

This is something you will either love or wont be able to stand. Personally I hate the clickyness.
improprietary 16th July 2011, 15:13 Quote
oh please razer and steelseries, make a wireless backlit ergonomic keyboard!
Arghnews 16th July 2011, 15:36 Quote
The review seems to really make this £110 keyboard sound like a waste of money. And I completely agree, anyone who spends £110 on a KEYBOARD, to them money is obviously of no concern. Therefore why the hell, if this keyboard is alienating and not worth it's premium price tag, does it get a 12/25 for value. That seems pretty damn high to me, considering most people are happy with keyboards (far) less than half that price that have similiar useful functionality.
sear 16th July 2011, 16:14 Quote
Wait, mechanical keyboards can be loud? Who would have thought! Damn, what's next? Will high-power CPUs require better cooling than low-power ones? What a strange world we live in.
MSHunter 16th July 2011, 17:06 Quote
Well I have one and its amazing. I think if you can not manage to adapt to the key printing then you shouldn't buy one as the major reasons Razer keyboards are great is (all) keys are programmable and this one is mechanical. Hence if you need to look at your keyboard you will probably not be some one who would use macro's and there fore would be better off with a cheaper membrane keyboard anyway. (yes it takes a while to get used to), but when u need the light any way you cant really see the shift keys...........

Who looks at the keys?
I mean are we not supposed to learn touch typing anyway.......


The actual annoying thing is not the shift keys but the font. It is not standard but (I think its called) Digital.
Either way refer to above statement.
sstteevveenn 16th July 2011, 18:15 Quote
Cherry blues aren't really that loud. It's only a tiny click. I think I'm quieter with them than when I'm smashing my fingers into the desk all the time on other keyboards, although I guess it's possible you hear the click more if someone else is typing. Still, you can get a g80-3000 for £60 so why you would want this monstrosity is beyond me.
Goty 16th July 2011, 20:45 Quote
I was in the market for a mechanical keyboard not too long ago and chose the XArmor U9BL-S over this Razer because the Razer is made almost entirely out of cheap, shiny plastic. That and the silly font on the keys were a major turnoff, even given the Razer's better price and greater functionality (if you really want to use the programmable keys, that is).
DarkLord7854 17th July 2011, 01:50 Quote
Have one, love it. You don't run into problems with the key material unless you drag your fingers on the keys, which last I checked isn't exactly the way you're supposed to type..
ssj12 17th July 2011, 03:19 Quote
I disagree 1000% with this review. I've owned 4 different Razer Keyboards and owned the Blackwidow Ultimate since it launched. It is way better than this review makes it out to be. It is one of the best keyboards they make.
rogerrabbits 17th July 2011, 09:29 Quote
107.99 (inc VAT)

^ I lolled
KiNETiK 17th July 2011, 09:29 Quote
Filco Majestouch FTW
FvD 17th July 2011, 09:44 Quote
Snide sounding review lacking in important points.

*Key rollover?
It connects via USB so a maximum of 6 keys pressed, but would have been nice to know if theres a lower bound, since there's no info on the Razer page.

*Ghosting?
Razer states "minimized ghosting".... so what about it?

*Switch type?
50cN actuation force and "loud" could mean MX Blues.
Most people uncommon to mechanical keyboards tend to bottom out the keys and hit the mounting plate, thus producing audible noise.(bad habit from rubber keyboards)
Pulling a cap would have taken 2 minutes and a fork.

You successfully ignored key aspects of a keyboard review and focused solely on "shiny and gimmicky" stuff.
the_kille4 17th July 2011, 10:58 Quote
You missed the main point of buying a mechanical keyboard. You don't buy one if you are so insistent on sound... then you either buy a cheaper membrane keyboard or a mechanical one which has switches which are quieter.

I play FPS games on my keyboard and I find the texture on the keyboard to be just fine. I do not find it different to other keyboards that I've used. I agree with the reviewer that yes it is loud and the sound gets picked up by my mike. But still the typing experience and the fact that it is backlit far outweighs the cons. If you actually look at the schematics of the switches cherry does manufacture them with an LED, and I assume that it would be much better implemented than if you use one from a membrane keyboard.

Oh and FvD, yes the switches used in the blackwidow keyboards are blue. I agree that if I still tend to bottom out keys so it has the click clack sound but that is still part of the learning curve in using new gadgets. It also has been a long time since I used a mechanical keyboard since the last time I used it was in kindergarten.

But all in all, it is a great keyboard. I love using it and I think it deserves a better score
Hustler 17th July 2011, 12:00 Quote
£108 for a keyboard....you have to be utterly brain dead to pay that much for a Keyboard.
Phalanx 17th July 2011, 12:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hustler
£108 for a keyboard....you have to be utterly brain dead to pay that much for a Keyboard.

Or just be braindead to not understand why mechanical keyboards cost more...

Oh, and for those that care, yes, the Blackwidow uses MX Cherry Blues.
rickysio 17th July 2011, 13:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by FvD
Snide sounding review lacking in important points.

*Key rollover?
It connects via USB so a maximum of 6 keys pressed, but would have been nice to know if theres a lower bound, since there's no info on the Razer page.

*Ghosting?
Razer states "minimized ghosting".... so what about it?

*Switch type?
50cN actuation force and "loud" could mean MX Blues.
Most people uncommon to mechanical keyboards tend to bottom out the keys and hit the mounting plate, thus producing audible noise.(bad habit from rubber keyboards)
Pulling a cap would have taken 2 minutes and a fork.

You successfully ignored key aspects of a keyboard review and focused solely on "shiny and gimmicky" stuff.

Razer's is a 2KRO, Blue switch mechanical keyboard.

Which is a failure, since most mechanical keyboards out there support 6KRO over USB (some even NKRO), and NKRO over PS/2.

Blue switches aren't even suited for gaming, brown/black/red are better.
IT Troll 17th July 2011, 14:04 Quote
For some reason bit-tech / Custom PC do not like mechanical keyboards. Last time they reviewed one, the Filco Majestouch, they gave it 50% marking it down for being noisey and not have any features. I guess some people appreciate quality whilst others go for gimmicks. For people who really know their keyboards take a visit to geekhack.
IT Troll 17th July 2011, 14:21 Quote
Although the Razer is mostly 2KRO it has a gaming optimised matrix on the WASD and ESDF clusters. This means you can press any four keys from these clusters plus two other keys from elsewhere.
the_kille4 17th July 2011, 14:58 Quote
well when I went to the store my options were limited since the only mechanical they had with back light was blackwidow.

Well the 2KRO part depends on how you use your keyboard and I don't really have hitches with using it currently.

here is the geekhack review
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:13224
so according to them, NKRO keyboards are less likely to have back-lighting (which for me is important) and more expensive. considering that and since razer did try to make a more "mainstream" gaming keyboard ... it is a great keyboard
FvD 17th July 2011, 14:58 Quote
rickysio & IT Troll

Thank you for clearing that up.
2-KRO is pretty bad...
And I have no problems gaming on MXBlues, and I like the tactile click while typing.
Browns would be nice on a "gimmicky" keyboard designed for gaming though, but I assume companies would push the "clicky" MXBlues to distinguish the board as mechanical. (as done with this one?)

But it seems like no manufacturer wants to produce a nice & _quality_ mechanical keyboard with some gimmicks like macro keys...
Remember the DAS version, where the FN key replaced the left win key? (crippled key combos)
But when they do... I'm betting on at least 150 bucks a piece. (assuming no ghosting & 6-KRO)
djdode 17th July 2011, 15:04 Quote
I don't fully agree with the review too. I think BT just try to cover all the details around it. Got the same opinion when I got it but I'm loving after using it. I'm pretty satisfied with everything. If you simply din't like blue, you can disable it and it'll be always black. Noisy keys? really? Do you claim about the noise of a Ferrari engine? This is an enthusiast piece of gadget. Don't expect it to be exactly as an old-school Logitech.
the_kille4 17th July 2011, 15:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by FvD
But when they do... I'm betting on at least 150 bucks a piece. (assuming no ghosting & 6-KRO)

and that makes the key board less and less mainstream which I don't think Razer wants to do. but then one can also blame the dudes who pushed the membrane based keyboards since they are cheaper.
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