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Scan 3XS Scorpion-X PC Review

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Tasslehoff 24th March 2011, 15:47 Quote
Oh I so want one of these :)
knuck 24th March 2011, 15:50 Quote
The inside looks very nice but the outside....... OH GAWD ! QUICK , SOMEBODY STAB ME IN THE EYES !
damien c 24th March 2011, 15:52 Quote
The only part about this pc I like is the case, but the rest of it seem's very low spec for the price and would prefer 2 or 3 GTX 580's in it instead of the GTX 590 given the new review.
NuTech 24th March 2011, 16:03 Quote
Doesn't Bit-tech have (or had?) a business relationship with Scan? If so, doesn't reviewing one of their products pose a slight conflict?

Wouldn't bring it up usually, but I cannot remember the last time I saw a pre-built PC reviewed by Bit...
Ph4ZeD 24th March 2011, 16:13 Quote
It only has a relationship in the same way that Crysis 2 and other games are advertised on the site, as are lots of hardware manufacturers do too, like OCZ, Gigabyte, G.Skill, etc etc.
phuzz 24th March 2011, 16:22 Quote
"we saw the CPU temperature reach 95°C"
Watercooling - You're doing it wrong.
I'm not sure what they're doing wrong, but the CPU temp really shouldn't be that high, especially as the GPU is at a lower temperature. Did you check the waterblock was properly fitted?
NuTech 24th March 2011, 16:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ph4ZeD
It only has a relationship in the same way that Crysis 2 and other games are advertised on the site, as are lots of hardware manufacturers do too, like OCZ, Gigabyte, G.Skill, etc etc.
The partnership could be over, but this was posted only last year:
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Today sees the launch of a partnership between bit-tech and Scan Computers. We've worked with Scan for years on both the bit-tech and Custom PC side of things, with Scan supplying us early access to kit, and components for labs and features. Let's not forget their Dream PC either. Most of the team have ordered kit from Scan at one time or another, too.
Link.

I think the relationship is slightly deeper than the simple advertising campaigns you listed above.

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with it (I've been reading Bit for more years than I care to count and value their extensive reviews), I just think maybe a disclaimer or two wouldn't hurt. Even low-quality blogs like Kotaku mention at the end of their reviews how they obtained the software/hardware and if any business relationships exist.
rollo 24th March 2011, 16:26 Quote
£3700 The words must be joking ring a bell

And 95c CPU temp on water wow my x58 980x on water at 5ghz with 1.45 vcore doesn't reach that insane temp, something is wrong with the water cooling I think.

Nice looking pc though
tonyd223 24th March 2011, 16:34 Quote
look - I'm old and silly - how does cool air get into the case is all the fans are exhaust?
Baz 24th March 2011, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by tonyd223
look - I'm old and silly - how does cool air get into the case is all the fans are exhaust?

Through the meshed side panel cut-outs.
Tech NoOb 24th March 2011, 16:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by tonyd223
look - I'm old and silly - how does cool air get into the case is all the fans are exhaust?

From the top, see third picture. The top fan (formerly the rear fan as components have been rotated 90 degrees) sucks air in and you also have gaps in the top of the case.
soviet_ 24th March 2011, 16:43 Quote
Why would anyone spend an obscene amount of money on a PC housed in a case with those horrific decals plastered on it? Money can't buy taste apparently
Tech NoOb 24th March 2011, 16:47 Quote
Actually the top fan maybe drawing air out. Weird fan logistics. Too pricey as well. You could probably build the system for half the price.
knuck 24th March 2011, 17:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by soviet_
Why would anyone spend an obscene amount of money on a PC housed in a case with those horrific decals plastered on it? Money can't buy taste apparently

as much as I agree and hate the looks of it, I'll give it something; those aren't decals, the panels are laser cut (it's said in the article :D)
soviet_ 24th March 2011, 17:14 Quote
Whoops, I read that @knuck but I didn't think it meant the scorpion was laser cut, looking again I see the mesh underneath. Still, even more pointless! All that effort for that result :)
Claave 24th March 2011, 17:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by soviet_
Why would anyone spend an obscene amount of money on a PC housed in a case with those horrific decals plastered on it? Money can't buy taste apparently

They're laser-cut holes, not stickers - please read our articles before posting.
koaschten 24th March 2011, 17:26 Quote
Well the obvious fail in this box is definitly trying to cool an overclocked i7-2600k and a GTX590 with a single radiator that is either 360 or a 420... nonetheless, too little surface area.
Picarro 24th March 2011, 17:27 Quote
Yeah.. erm.. so who's to blame for this turd?


F'ugly, expensive and hotter than hell. Do. Not. Want.
soviet_ 24th March 2011, 17:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave
They're laser-cut holes, not stickers - please read our articles before posting.

I was so disgusted by what I was seeing I must've misread. You should have a warning on that review, "stroke inducing content ahead" or a pop-up box asking your DOB and if you are over 15 you get kicked to the front page
CardJoe 24th March 2011, 17:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by NuTech
Doesn't Bit-tech have (or had?) a business relationship with Scan? If so, doesn't reviewing one of their products pose a slight conflict?

Wouldn't bring it up usually, but I cannot remember the last time I saw a pre-built PC reviewed by Bit...

We have a business relationship in the sense that they advertise with us and in the magazine, yes. However, those sides of the business (advertising and editorial) are kept separate purely to avoid the conflicts of interest. The editorial team is autonomous and trained to ensure that advertising doesn't affect the standing of the reviews they write.

We have reviewed pre-built PC before (though, as you say, not in a long time), but that's no reason not to do when the content is relevant and the samples available. You may well see more PCs like this reviewed in the future across the magazine and website.
rickysio 24th March 2011, 17:41 Quote
That's a crazy high CPU temperature.
chrismarkham1982 24th March 2011, 18:06 Quote
that
looks
sexy
high price but high performance....still too much for me though
coolmiester 24th March 2011, 18:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
We have a business relationship in the sense that they advertise with us and in the magazine, yes. However, those sides of the business (advertising and editorial) are kept separate purely to avoid the conflicts of interest. The editorial team is autonomous and trained to ensure that advertising doesn't affect the standing of the reviews they write.

We have reviewed pre-built PC before (though, as you say, not in a long time), but that's no reason not to do when the content is relevant and the samples available. You may well see more PCs like this reviewed in the future across the magazine and website.



You're welcome to play with my SR-2 anytime you like once i get a couple of 580's in it ;)
tonyd223 24th March 2011, 18:10 Quote
top fan is exhaust (says so in the review), bottom 5 are exhaust, psu is exhaust - only intake I can see are the side panel mesh gashes - so of course the temps are high - there's no cold air getting into the case!
Baz 24th March 2011, 18:23 Quote
Plenty suffering from didn't-read-the-review-itis in this thread. Here goes...
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Originally Posted by koaschten
Well the obvious fail in this box is definitly trying to cool an overclocked i7-2600k and a GTX590 with a single radiator that is either 360 or a 420... nonetheless, too little surface area.

The triple rad is more than up to cooling the hardware. The GPU's Delta T was fine, and the coolant temp never went above 50°C. You do not need more than a 360 to cool a single GPU and CPU, even overclocked turbo nutter ones.
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Originally Posted by soviet_
Why would anyone spend an obscene amount of money on a PC housed in a case with those horrific decals plastered on it? Money can't buy taste apparently

They're laser cut holes. As is said in the article.

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Originally Posted by tonyd223
top fan is exhaust (says so in the review), bottom 5 are exhaust, psu is exhaust - only intake I can see are the side panel mesh gashes - so of course the temps are high - there's no cold air getting into the case!

Air is exhausted out of the base of the case, and passively drawn into the case via the meshed laser cuts. The heat is getting out the case (the desk around it gets warm pretty quickly once you load it up), and as I've said, the coolant isn;t too hot, at around 50°C. It's just that the CPU voltage is set so high that's caused the super high CPU temps.
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Originally Posted by Tech NoOb
Actually the top fan maybe drawing air out. Weird fan logistics. Too pricey as well. You could probably build the system for half the price.

We priced the hardware inside at around £2600 if you bought it yourself from Scan, and then built the PC. That wouldn't include the paint job, the laser cutting or the two year warranty though. Considering the man hours that have to go into building a PC like this, the price is reasonable, as said in the article.
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