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Quote Mankz 19th October 2009, 11:28
I spy a Little Devil phase unit under a different name...


I aprrove. ;)
Quote stonedsurd 19th October 2009, 11:31
Doesn't quite do it for me. Seems odd because the PR-talk makes it sound so awesome but it really doesn't pull any of the right strings.
Quote Naberius 19th October 2009, 11:33
Thats not a dream pc, its a mess!
Quote azrael- 19th October 2009, 11:36
Designwise it's just fugly...
Quote frontline 19th October 2009, 11:41
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Despite ATI’s resurgence, the fastest single GPU is still the Nvidia design and architecture

Surely 'GPU' is incorrect? Card, maybe.
Quote Abdul Hadi 19th October 2009, 11:43
The system is just the selection of the most expensive bits in the market. Not the best. So it may be quite quite good but in my opinion not great.
Quote Abdul Hadi 19th October 2009, 11:46
Most modders in bit-tech can easily achieve 4.5 from a 975. Just 200MHz more for what, I think 2000 quid. Mmmmm.... may not be acceptable.
Quote Claave 19th October 2009, 12:04
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Originally Posted by frontline
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Despite ATI’s resurgence, the fastest single GPU is still the Nvidia design and architecture

Surely 'GPU' is incorrect? Card, maybe.

It's worth remembering that these machines were specced up a few months ago in order to be tuned, tweaked and stress-tested for reliability, so none of them use HD 5000-series graphics cards. But then, the competition is more about design and innovation than just bunging the most expensive stuff you can find into a case.
Quote Tim S 19th October 2009, 12:05
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Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi
Most modders in bit-tech can easily achieve 4.5 from a 975. Just 200MHz more for what, I think 2000 quid. Mmmmm.... may not be acceptable.

Yeah, but will they provide a full warranty, including telephone and on-site support? :)
Quote The boy 4rm oz 19th October 2009, 12:19
Looks ok but Meh to the phase. Seriously needs some internal cable work and could have at least used a blue sleeve on the phase pipe to tie it all in. Not to mention the actual case doesn't sit properly on top of the unit and the CF vinyl they used on the case was done very poorly, a ton of wrinkles and bubbles. If that was given to me I would give it back and make them do it again, then again I wouldn't be stupid enough to drop the cash on it in the first place. The second rig is still the best IMO.
Quote oatey4519 19th October 2009, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi
Most modders in bit-tech can easily achieve 4.5 from a 975. Just 200MHz more for what, I think 2000 quid. Mmmmm.... may not be acceptable.

Yeah, but will they provide a full warranty, including telephone and on-site support? :)

Lol..

It is a bit messy as said as well...
Nice products inside though..
Quote rickysio 19th October 2009, 12:46
Pfft, RAID 0 Intel X25-E would be better, if they wanted to shove the best and the most expensive inside.
Quote Abhorsen 19th October 2009, 13:21
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi
Most modders in bit-tech can easily achieve 4.5 from a 975. Just 200MHz more for what, I think 2000 quid. Mmmmm.... may not be acceptable.

Yeah, but will they provide a full warranty, including telephone and on-site support? :)

5. Minimise the cost and need for professional technical maintenance or intervention.

Tim, so.... they minimised cost, yet it's still £7,495. Also they minimised the need for Technical support so a Bit-Techer built machine at £2,000 with albeit slightly lower specs leaves £5,495 worth of Warranty which "Shouldn't be needed" by there own statement... :P
Quote SlowMotionSuicide 19th October 2009, 13:33
Sure as hell ain't pretty.
Quote Baz 19th October 2009, 13:42
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Originally Posted by rickysio
Pfft, RAID 0 Intel X25-E would be better, if they wanted to shove the best and the most expensive inside.

While the dream PCs are supposed to be awesome, they do still have to at least partly affordable - £2k on 2 SSDs (that are slower than 2x indilinx when reading) just isn't worth it. It's a balancing act between being awesome and keeping things at least partially affordable.
Quote smc8788 19th October 2009, 13:43
Just got my copy of CPC in the post, and judging by the front cover alone it looks like you are saving the best for last. It's just a shame that not all manufacturers were quite up to the task in the design department.

Looking forward to the next two :)
Quote logan'srun 19th October 2009, 13:51
well if that's the case (read above comment) then I'm looking forward to them too as these cases haven't really inspired me in the least. Sorry.

have you ever thought of asking the modders here to create a 'Dream PC' or is that outside the bounds of what is deemed a 'Builder's boutique' with tech support and warranty's and such?
Quote M7ck 19th October 2009, 14:01
I think this is the worst of all five entries. The phase change unit is cool but its a friggin ugly machine. I have just read the full review in the mag and im not that impressed.
Quote Lizard 19th October 2009, 14:04
logan'srun - we do have 'Mod of the Month' and 'Readers Drives' modding competitions every month in bit-tech/CPC, in which any reader can enter their modded system.

For Dream PCs, we specifically only ask PC manufacturers, so that the systems that are covered can be bought if you like the look of any of them. And while I'm sure some readers might be up for selling one of their modded systems, they wouldn't be able to offer the same tech support/warranty/assurance a PC manufacturer should be able to do.
Quote Naberius 19th October 2009, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Lizard
For Dream PCs, we specifically only ask PC manufacturers, so that the systems that are covered can be bought if you like the look of any of them. And while I'm sure some readers might be up for selling one of their modded systems, they wouldn't be able to offer the same tech support/warranty/assurance a PC manufacturer should be able to do.

You say that as if what we have here today is a 'complete package', far from it I would say. If a company can't even be bothered to tidy up the cables inside the system what does it say for the rest of the work. That's before you even get to the tacky carbon fibre film which has air bubbles underneath it.

Very poor imo
Quote Lizard 19th October 2009, 15:40
I'm not saying that to, use your terminology, this is a 'complete package', what I'm saying is that we invite companies to take part, and then report on what they send in. This article is just a sneak peak of the system, not the full review article.
Quote Horizon 19th October 2009, 16:11
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Originally Posted by Naberius
Thats not a dream pc, its a mess!

Agreed, you can air bubbles and the vinyl peeling in various places, they should have painted imo. And took some time for cable management. I'll still award them points for being unexpected.
Quote TSR2 19th October 2009, 16:45
Are the SSD's really only 256MB each?
Quote Claave 19th October 2009, 16:55
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Originally Posted by TSR2
Are the SSD's really only 256MB each?

One Brownie Point for actually reading all that text - I've fixed it now, cheers! :D
Quote Dreaming 19th October 2009, 17:47
This is not my or I guess anyone else's Dream PC. That might sound harsh, and I'm sure it will be nice for some but still none of the three so far have 'dared to be different'. Some of the things the modders have come up with on here have been *far* more unique. Just look at the iMac, as much as I wouldn't personally have one, it is really unique compared to every other PC (with the caveat that other makers have produced similar all-in-ones now).

Here I think we are just going to get variations of the same "massive tower case with lots of water cooling, SSDs and multi GPU configurations, and of course an overclocked i7 CPU".
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