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Zyxel PLA4211 500mbps Powerline Adaptor review

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jimmyjj 16th January 2013, 21:09 Quote
I want to go away from wireless to see if I can improve my online gaming.

As I live in a bachelor flat I am just going to traipse Cat 5 straight through the hall :)
Saivert 16th January 2013, 21:40 Quote
so they reach gigabit speeds on the latest wireless tech and yet powerline networking can't exceed 500Mbps? I call conspiracy.

I just wired my home with Cat5e. I want gigabit conn. to my home server.
Gradius 17th January 2013, 01:50 Quote
Is really sad to see products labeled as 500Mbps while they will NEVER EVER reach such speed, not even 50% of it!
ZeDestructor 17th January 2013, 02:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Saivert
so they reach gigabit speeds on the latest wireless tech and yet powerline networking can't exceed 500Mbps? I call conspiracy.

I just wired my home with Cat5e. I want gigabit conn. to my home server.

Ever looked at current/voltage characteristics of your gear through an oscilloscope? I have (I'm an Elec Eng student) and the noise levels are astounding compared to wifi since nobody put a noise limit.
barrkel 17th January 2013, 03:13 Quote
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You're far better off investing in a roll of cat5e

What about people that rent their homes?
What about people that haven’t got the tools for DIY cable installation?
What about the people that haven’t got the skills for DIY cable installation?
What about people who want a cheap, reliable, and easy to install solution?
What about the people for whom powerline is enough – even on my 200mpbs powerline kit, I can stream 1080p flawlessly.

Cat5e is cable, everyone understands cable, it's no different than routing an extension cord. Tools? I listed the tools - you can use a heavy rock if necessary to hammer in the cable clips. Rented home? That's my case, my cables mostly go in the gap between the wall and the carpet gripper strips.

Don't forget that powerline networking is shared bus networking. Total available bandwidth is split across all users; if you have four machines, A talking to B will reduce the bandwidth for C talking to D.

OK: probable best case for powerline networking is extending a wifi network, putting in an extra base station to fill in gaps in coverage. Connecting to it, you'd never go faster than the wifi allows, so not saturate the powerline connection, and you'd typically just be using the internet, so wouldn't even saturate the wifi. But if you have machines that you want to wire into physically, you're far better off with the cable if you can manage it at all.
DriftCarl 17th January 2013, 08:24 Quote
My whole house has just been completly rewired, with new electic box and everything. Would this give my house a better chance of having a stable powerline setup?
I hate gaming on wifi, its a bit laggy at times. Currently have a long network cable going to my PC, and I really dont want to have to route it through skirting and make holes in the ceilings. I like to move my kit around the room quite a lot every 6 months or so. for £55 I might just invest, can I then buy another set at a later date to install into other rooms and they will all just sync up nicely?
Blackshark 17th January 2013, 08:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Saivert
so they reach gigabit speeds on the latest wireless tech and yet powerline networking can't exceed 500Mbps? I call conspiracy.

Erm - no they have not! Not even close. Not even when the next generation of 802.11ac comes out using up to 8 antennas (compared to the 3 that is the max. most manufacturers use for N) and 160MHz banding. At the moment the top end is 180Mbps (mega BITS per second). So that works out at about 20MB per second. Thats your lot.

Maybe with the additional aerials, wider channel, we can add 50 - 75% to that. Maybe.

All these technologies need the EU to come up with a standard real world test. If I can buy a gigabit router and get gigabit speeds, I dont see why it should be that I buy a gigabit wireless router and get 100-200Mbit speed. As I have always said, if we put marketing departments up against the wall (HHGTTG style) and got the teks to write the info on the box, then at least we would get some honesty.
Parge 17th January 2013, 09:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by DriftCarl
My whole house has just been completly rewired, with new electic box and everything. Would this give my house a better chance of having a stable powerline setup?
I hate gaming on wifi, its a bit laggy at times. Currently have a long network cable going to my PC, and I really dont want to have to route it through skirting and make holes in the ceilings. I like to move my kit around the room quite a lot every 6 months or so. for £55 I might just invest, can I then buy another set at a later date to install into other rooms and they will all just sync up nicely?

Do it, just buy the cheap £22 pair I linked to earlier. I am 99% sure that would solve any issues you have with gaming (unless they are caused by your outside line, rather than internal wifi connection)
ZeDestructor 17th January 2013, 14:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by DriftCarl
My whole house has just been completly rewired, with new electic box and everything. Would this give my house a better chance of having a stable powerline setup?
I hate gaming on wifi, its a bit laggy at times. Currently have a long network cable going to my PC, and I really dont want to have to route it through skirting and make holes in the ceilings. I like to move my kit around the room quite a lot every 6 months or so. for £55 I might just invest, can I then buy another set at a later date to install into other rooms and they will all just sync up nicely?

You had the house rewired but no CAT5e/6 put in? How disappointing. That aside, you should have a cleaner circuit and that should help give you better speeds in theory, but I suspect the sheer amount of noice from tansformers, feedback loops, random fluctuations etc will still lower the speed considerably.
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Erm - no they have not! Not even close. Not even when the next generation of 802.11ac comes out using up to 8 antennas (compared to the 3 that is the max. most manufacturers use for N) and 160MHz banding. At the moment the top end is 180Mbps (mega BITS per second). So that works out at about 20MB per second. Thats your lot.

Maybe with the additional aerials, wider channel, we can add 50 - 75% to that. Maybe.

All these technologies need the EU to come up with a standard real world test. If I can buy a gigabit router and get gigabit speeds, I dont see why it should be that I buy a gigabit wireless router and get 100-200Mbit speed. As I have always said, if we put marketing departments up against the wall (HHGTTG style) and got the teks to write the info on the box, then at least we would get some honesty.

My 802.11n setup disagrees with it 450Mbps link speed. Unfortunately, that works out to around 100-150mbits/s in practice.

What you describe as bad marketing is actually incorrect: The tech is capable of producing the numbers under the most perfect conditions (sealed lab, no neighbours, perfect antennas, etc.).

As for wired routing speed being slow, well, it claims a 1Gbit link speed (which it delivers nicely), but thanks to the CPU/RAM/Firmware/Switch combo, it may end up being slower than the link speed. For eaxmple, a high-powered Cisco ISP-grade router lives in a 2U rackmount box - it needs room for the powerful CPU, RAM, Power supply, heatsinks, switches, ethernet controllers etc.

Finally, a LOT of client devices have shitty implementations of networking gear (1500USD laptops with only 2.4GHz N150 wifi and 100Mbit wired LAN anyone?).

Meanwhile, the Intel controllers (4965AGN, 5300, Centrino 6300 for WLAN and 82576, 82567LM for wired LAN) on my machines reliably push out high-speeds (I've pushed steady 125MBytes/s raw bandwidth from my desktop to my laptop through a Netgear GS108E switch).

In fact, I'm in a situation where I've essentially convinced essentially all of my friends to move up to intel 6300 wifi cards just to get away from the cheapest realtek/broadcom/atheros chips OEMs seem so intent on putting in their machines... Its shameful that I get a steady 10ms ping with 10+MBytes/s download speeds at ubni while they chug along with miserable 200KBytes/s downloads and 50ms of jitter on the already terrible 200+ms pings...
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