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Golden Arrow Killer Xeno Pro Gaming Network Card Review

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qupada 1st May 2010, 09:19 Quote
Any chance of getting your hands on the (similarly priced) Intel Pro/1000 PT (http://www.intel.com/products/server/adapters/pro1000pt/pro1000pt-overview.htm) for a comparison piece?

I suspect the result will be similar, since all the Intel card's performance tuning seems to be geared toward large-packet TCP (checksum offloading, etc), but performance results for the more server-oriented Intel card would be interesting nevertheless.
GravitySmacked 1st May 2010, 09:46 Quote
I used to own a Killer K1 and whilst it was good at first the terrible driver support rendered it nigh on useless.

I wouldn't touch another product related to Bigfoot in a million years. They support their new products only adequately and as soon as they do something new they leave their old customers high and dry.
perplekks45 1st May 2010, 11:34 Quote
I don't see how a 2ms lower ping might be worth anything. But I guess there's a market somewhere for everything.
Orionche 1st May 2010, 13:16 Quote
Regarding the name... are you KIDDING me? :o
salesman 1st May 2010, 14:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Orionche
Regarding the name... are you KIDDING me? :o

I read the whole article just because the name of the product.

Does Bit-tech still run a CS:S sever?
Sifter3000 1st May 2010, 15:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by salesman
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Originally Posted by Orionche
Regarding the name... are you KIDDING me? :o

I read the whole article just because the name of the product.

Does Bit-tech still run a CS:S sever?

We have gamerservers, yup - have a look in the Games Forum for the specifics.
TomH 1st May 2010, 17:08 Quote
Even less point than the original card then.

What I did think when I saw it, however, that with a USB port on it. Will someone work out a way to hack it into something better? An OS-agnostic, TCP Offload Engine with full open-source driver support, kthnxplz.

If only I had the skill for such things. I'd be willing to go halves (or thirds?) on one if a willing developer (with creditable experience in such things) would be interested.
Psy-UK 1st May 2010, 17:23 Quote
I feel sorry for the poor saps that get sucked in by the marketing bollocks and buy this card.
flibblesan 1st May 2010, 17:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Psy-UK
I feel sorry for the poor saps that get sucked in by the marketing bollocks and buy this card.

Most likely WoW freaks. They'll buy this card for the extra 4fps.
dire_wolf 1st May 2010, 18:29 Quote
Haha what a piece of crap
Tulatin 1st May 2010, 18:36 Quote
Indeed, crap. Killer networks really should just be put out, so that the few of these cards that are sold don't end up shoveled off onto ignorant gamers by overly pushy clerks in big box stores.

Besides, if you want throttling and proper QoS, download a little (Non Free) piece of software called cFosSpeed. It dynamically re-orders packets in order to make sure that things you want (HTTP, Skype, WoW) get out first, around your downloaded data. It's good enough that I can max out my download speeds and still keep respectable pings. Yup.
The_Jonas 1st May 2010, 18:41 Quote
Awesome, I really enjoyed this review, when thinking about what PCI-slots to use in Alienware rigs bought online I always wondered if there were worth it, thanks Bit-tech :)
HourBeforeDawn 1st May 2010, 19:26 Quote
I did a blind test, took two identical systems, one had this card and one didnt, I had 10 people each day for three days try out both systems for 30mins each and you know what the results were, over half choose the system without the card as to what they though was faster lol, my point being is that this does not make a noticeable significant difference UNLESS your on an internet connection that is wireless or under 1.5mb, anything higher and well your not going to really need this card at all.
dylawesome 2nd May 2010, 03:05 Quote
I'm curious: if you're playing a game and the server were using hardware like this, would you receive better performance? Could such hardware be used to improve the quality of the connection to the laggiest players in a game?

It's something I've wondered about since bigfoot networks came out.
outlawaol 2nd May 2010, 04:45 Quote
Yay, more useless crap to throw money at!
borandi 2nd May 2010, 17:33 Quote
The biggest buyers of the original were system builders, who were able to market it to ignorant chumps.

Heck, there's more difference between Coke and Pepsi than this and onboard NIC.

Though the Intel NIC performs better than the Realtek NIC. If this sort of thing interests you, then you should rather buy boards with the Intel NIC.
lietu 2nd May 2010, 18:23 Quote
Yeah, I'd also love to see a comparison with a similarly priced NIC from some other manufacturer, such as Intel or HP.
Invectus 3rd May 2010, 09:33 Quote
hahaha what a funny product.. but it will certainly sell it self, everything with a "gaming" tag appear to do so.
ssj12 4th May 2010, 05:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Orionche
Regarding the name... are you KIDDING me? :o

ya, EVGA sounds better then Golden Arrow.
BLC 6th May 2010, 06:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by dylawesome
I'm curious: if you're playing a game and the server were using hardware like this, would you receive better performance? Could such hardware be used to improve the quality of the connection to the laggiest players in a game?

It's something I've wondered about since bigfoot networks came out.

Well, I'm guessing that the idea of this card is that it moves the processing of the TCP/IP stack away from the rest of your computer and to the hardware on the card; i.e. freeing up the CPU to perform other tasks. It's a sound theory, but unfortunately it looks like it falls short in practical use. If you had a particularly slow PC, maybe you might see an improvement. But if you've got a particularly slow PC, you're probably not going to be gaming online.

I would agree with other posters; with modern hardware and CPU speeds, this product simply isn't needed. Only a fool would be dropping £80 on this.... Or OEMs who slap it in a "gaming" PC to screw a little bit more money out of you.
ssj12 8th May 2010, 03:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by BLC
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Originally Posted by dylawesome
I'm curious: if you're playing a game and the server were using hardware like this, would you receive better performance? Could such hardware be used to improve the quality of the connection to the laggiest players in a game?

It's something I've wondered about since bigfoot networks came out.

Well, I'm guessing that the idea of this card is that it moves the processing of the TCP/IP stack away from the rest of your computer and to the hardware on the card; i.e. freeing up the CPU to perform other tasks. It's a sound theory, but unfortunately it looks like it falls short in practical use. If you had a particularly slow PC, maybe you might see an improvement. But if you've got a particularly slow PC, you're probably not going to be gaming online.

I would agree with other posters; with modern hardware and CPU speeds, this product simply isn't needed. Only a fool would be dropping £80 on this.... Or OEMs who slap it in a "gaming" PC to screw a little bit more money out of you.

EVGA demoed some benches of their version of this card and showed improvement though. I think its matter of what your connecting to and how you configure it. Since this card is only a year old they couldn't have benched it using old hardware for its time.
hurrakan 13th May 2010, 14:51 Quote
The rest of the Internet are NOT talking about the Xeno Pro. Everyone seems excited about the Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100.

I hope bit-tech.net will also review the Bigfoot Networks Killer 2100 and let us know how it compares to the Xeno Pro.

Thanks!
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