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Asus Sabertooth X79 Review

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K.I.T.T. 30th November 2011, 09:28 Quote
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Conclusion
The Asus Sabertooth X79 is a treasure trove of useful and interesting features. It might cost more than other manufacturers' offerings but it has the best cooling, EFI and overclocking and monitoring software of any LGA2001 board we've seen.

2011?
[USRF]Obiwan 30th November 2011, 11:47 Quote
If you remove all the fancy stuff it has the same performance as any other X79 board out there. I mean a 1 to 3 point difference is not noticed by anyone in real world use. If you remove all static benches and compare motherboards with no tools at all but common sense they would have all the same performances but one looks better then the other and that is just personal taste. Once it is in your PC nobody G.A.F. anymore.

Personally, i really do not care anymore what motherboard or memory is in my PC as long as it is cheap. It will last a few years and do a upgrade. You don't have to do it for the games, most of them are console ports anyway. And even MW3 runs perfectly fine with all 'ultra' on a GT460 on HD res on a Phenom quad core.

For 320 pounds you have a Asrock motherboard, 8GB mem, quadcore and a MSI 460 graphics cad that can play the latest games and is a fine and cheap daily use PC. That is just 65 pound more for the price you pay for this fancy motherboard alone. It is ridiculously expensive and for what?
shaunster1011 30th November 2011, 12:21 Quote
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t is ridiculously expensive and for what?

Not everyone just plays games on there PC, you know?
Hustler 30th November 2011, 12:44 Quote
So for £255, what kind of shelf life will that buy in terms of Intel releasing compatible CPU's, given their lamentable track record for changing sockets?.

I'll be moving over to a SandyBridge setup in the new year, but TBH, i think it makes more sense to buy a mid range £100-£150 Mobo and change it again in 12mths for a similar amount of money, rather than splurge £255 on a CPU socket that might be dumped by Intel in late 2012.

So, 2 mid range boards or 1 top end board now..?
HandMadeAndroid 30th November 2011, 13:05 Quote
Oh look another motherboard with silly gun design elements. Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a man.
Claave 30th November 2011, 13:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Hustler
So for £255, what kind of shelf life will that buy in terms of Intel releasing compatible CPU's, given their lamentable track record for changing sockets?.

I'll be moving over to a SandyBridge setup in the new year, but TBH, i think it makes more sense to buy a mid range £100-£150 Mobo and change it again in 12mths for a similar amount of money, rather than splurge £255 on a CPU socket that might be dumped by Intel in late 2012.

So, 2 mid range boards or 1 top end board now..?

Ivy Bridge E - due out around this time next year - will fit in LGA2011, as far as we know.
K404 30th November 2011, 13:18 Quote
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Oh look another motherboard with silly gun design elements. Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a man.

Where are the gun elements??
Risky 30th November 2011, 13:52 Quote
How noisy is the board with those two fans. I'm not keen of whiney 40mm jobbies, but it's been a while since I had one and perhaps the tech has improved.
Pete J 30th November 2011, 14:06 Quote
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Obiwan]For 320 pounds you have a Asrock motherboard, 8GB mem, quadcore and a MSI 460 graphics cad that can play the latest games and is a fine and cheap daily use PC. That is just 65 pound more for the price you pay for this fancy motherboard alone. It is ridiculously expensive and for what?
Some of us want to play Crysis on ultra high settings at 2560x1600 - with AA.
Combatus 30th November 2011, 14:43 Quote
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How noisy is the board with those two fans. I'm not keen of whiney 40mm jobbies, but it's been a while since I had one and perhaps the tech has improved.

They're about as noisy any other ones but the Thermal Radar fan control software allows you to fine-tune the fan speed profiles to suit you.
Hustler 30th November 2011, 14:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave

Ivy Bridge E - due out around this time next year - will fit in LGA2011, as far as we know.

I was really thinking about what comes after Ivy Bridge, because i assume Ivy Bridge E will follow the same price structure (complete rip off) as the Sandy Bridge E's that have just been released...there is no way I'm paying £500+ for a CPU.
GuilleAcoustic 30th November 2011, 15:09 Quote
Those CPU are oriented toward professionnal, not end-user. I look at them more as XEON substitute rather than Pentium. IMHO, the actual XEON lines doesn't differ to much from the core iX series (except some monitoring features and 2-way support for the higher ones). Real professionnal CPU is what Intel was lacking.
trig 30th November 2011, 15:32 Quote
definitely a little homer-ism in that review...i get the added value of the fan software...but not that much...defo doesn't deserve a 21 of 25 for that price...bit's reviews in the past focus on general usage, with an addendum of some sort that "IF you are a heavy multi-threaded app user who needs the extra ram and software features, this is a decent deal for you but for the majority of users this just isn't the best value." this review felt more like "it doesn't matter what kind of a user you are, buy this board i wantz to make babies"...
HandMadeAndroid 30th November 2011, 17:08 Quote
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Oh look another motherboard with silly gun design elements. Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a man.

Where are the gun elements??

The 'magazine' heat-sink
Combatus 30th November 2011, 17:10 Quote
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definitely a little homer-ism in that review...i get the added value of the fan software...but not that much...defo doesn't deserve a 21 of 25 for that price...bit's reviews in the past focus on general usage, with an addendum of some sort that "IF you are a heavy multi-threaded app user who needs the extra ram and software features, this is a decent deal for you but for the majority of users this just isn't the best value." this review felt more like "it doesn't matter what kind of a user you are, buy this board i wantz to make babies"...

Errm you might want to re-read the final paragraph...

if you're not dealing with professional multi-threaded applications all the time, an LGA1155 system remains the better option
trig 30th November 2011, 17:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by trig
definitely a little homer-ism in that review...i get the added value of the fan software...but not that much...defo doesn't deserve a 21 of 25 for that price...bit's reviews in the past focus on general usage, with an addendum of some sort that "IF you are a heavy multi-threaded app user who needs the extra ram and software features, this is a decent deal for you but for the majority of users this just isn't the best value." this review felt more like "it doesn't matter what kind of a user you are, buy this board i wantz to make babies"...

Errm you might want to re-read the final paragraph...

if you're not dealing with professional multi-threaded applications all the time, an LGA1155 system remains the better option

errm...i did...you should re-read the post...i wasn't referring to platform recommendations...i was referring to the mobo recommendations...you don't have to be a professional multi-threaded app user to want an x79 system
debs3759 30th November 2011, 19:30 Quote
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Ivy Bridge E - due out around this time next year - will fit in LGA2011, as far as we know.

IB-E is definitely compatible with SB-E motherboards.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2011/2011112101_Ivy_Bridge-E_to_be_compatible_with_Sandy_Bridge-E_socket.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-ivy-bridge-e-slated-for-q4-2012-compatible-with-sandy-bridge-e/14006.html
rollo 30th November 2011, 19:31 Quote
90% of the people speaking in this thread are not the target market.

If you want an x79 system for any other reason than multi threaded apps then you have more money than sence as the 2500k overclocked is still faster in 90% of all games tested.

£500 for a 6 core cpu still beats the £780 than intel want for a 980x or 990x for that matter.

if you need a 6 core cpu then £500 is pretty dam cheap compare it to the xeon systems out there which start from £4k Onwards on just cpus if you go high end. or you could go Amd they have an 8core for £230 ( but its out performed alot )

Thermal radar sounds awesome can we have a review of just that.
debs3759 30th November 2011, 19:36 Quote
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trig 30th November 2011, 20:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by rollo
90% of the people speaking in this thread are not the target market.

If you want an x79 system for any other reason than multi threaded apps then you have more money than sence as the 2500k overclocked is still faster in 90% of all games tested.

no doubt, but dont forget, this is an enthusiast site...we don't need tri-gtx 580 sli and 16+ gb ram...or 6-core 12 thread cpu's...but we want it...i can get 40 + fps with a core 2 duo e8400 and a gtx 275 on most games out there...but by god if i get an extra $100 in my pocket i'm sellin that gtx 275 for a gtx 560ti...

if i had $2000 to drop on a new rig and i wasn't so psyched about the power savings benefits of IB, i would be on this bus...and all i do is surf, do some work from home, and occasionally bust out a night of r6 vegas 2 or l4d2 or something...
Pookeyhead 30th November 2011, 20:55 Quote
"Intel Core i7-3960X (32nm, 12MB Level 3 Cache"

You mean 15MB surely?
Combatus 30th November 2011, 22:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by trig
definitely a little homer-ism in that review...i get the added value of the fan software...but not that much...defo doesn't deserve a 21 of 25 for that price...bit's reviews in the past focus on general usage, with an addendum of some sort that "IF you are a heavy multi-threaded app user who needs the extra ram and software features, this is a decent deal for you but for the majority of users this just isn't the best value." this review felt more like "it doesn't matter what kind of a user you are, buy this board i wantz to make babies"...

Errm you might want to re-read the final paragraph...

if you're not dealing with professional multi-threaded applications all the time, an LGA1155 system remains the better option

errm...i did...you should re-read the post...i wasn't referring to platform recommendations...i was referring to the mobo recommendations...you don't have to be a professional multi-threaded app user to want an x79 system

No you don't have to be, but all our LGA2011 coverage points to the fact that LGA2011 is aimed at/best suited to professional users that regularly make use of n-threaded applications. Otherwise it's just not worth it over a high-end LGA1155 system. If, based on this fact you are in the market for an LGA2011 system, the Sabertooth X79 is good value compared to other X79 boards we've looked at recently, including some that are significantly cheaper, which we'll cover in the near future. If you're in the market just to have the latest hardware, well, we doubt most people in this situation take much notice of scores anyway!
Sloth 30th November 2011, 22:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
If you remove all the fancy stuff it has the same performance as any other X79 board out there. I mean a 1 to 3 point difference is not noticed by anyone in real world use. If you remove all static benches and compare motherboards with no tools at all but common sense they would have all the same performances but one looks better then the other and that is just personal taste. Once it is in your PC nobody G.A.F. anymore.

Personally, i really do not care anymore what motherboard or memory is in my PC as long as it is cheap. It will last a few years and do a upgrade. You don't have to do it for the games, most of them are console ports anyway. And even MW3 runs perfectly fine with all 'ultra' on a GT460 on HD res on a Phenom quad core.

For 320 pounds you have a Asrock motherboard, 8GB mem, quadcore and a MSI 460 graphics cad that can play the latest games and is a fine and cheap daily use PC. That is just 65 pound more for the price you pay for this fancy motherboard alone. It is ridiculously expensive and for what?
The purpose of this board isn't to toss together a MW3 gaming rig. It's for exactly what the review says: professional multithreaded applications. LGA2011 and corresponding X79 systems are not meant to be poking around playing console ports just as cheapo AM3 systems are not meant to be tackling heavy video editing/photoshop/3D modelling/et cetera.
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Oh look another motherboard with silly gun design elements. Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be a man.
Where are the gun designs? The VRM heatsink/shroud is just a black plastic box and the southbridge shroud is just black plastic with some lines in it.

You must be thinking of this. Now there's a ridiculous board. Even more expensive than the Sabertooth X79 and purposefully aimed at gaming.
BlackMage23 30th November 2011, 23:43 Quote
Can someone please tell me why high end boards still have a PS2 port on them?

I know I have not used PS2 in years, and I don't think anyone buying this board will be.
trig 30th November 2011, 23:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Combatus
No you don't have to be, but all our LGA2011 coverage points to the fact that LGA2011 is aimed at/best suited to professional users that regularly make use of n-threaded applications. Otherwise it's just not worth it over a high-end LGA1155 system. If, based on this fact you are in the market for an LGA2011 system, the Sabertooth X79 is good value compared to other X79 boards we've looked at recently, including some that are significantly cheaper, which we'll cover in the near future. If you're in the market just to have the latest hardware, well, we doubt most people in this situation take much notice of scores anyway!

true...

and if i am completely off, then i'm off...but reviews in the past have been fairly middle of the road in regards to usage (again, meaning the products were scored for general usage) with added commentary that if you are this user or that, then this might be etc etc...and maybe that's what it comes down to, that this platform cost is so over the top that the general usage is professional multi-threaded app user...in which case, i somewhat get it, but you still don't really justify the price of the board over, say, the as-rock...at least not in my opinion or at least not in this particular review...50% more money on a $200+ mobo, for middle of the road performance vs other x79 boards, because you can control fan speeds better?
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