Just read that review and I'm really surprised at the out come, especially as my UD3 will spin my chip to 4.3Ghz more at a push. Maybe you've just got a dodgy chip that doesn't like to be overclocked.
That said I've got the cooling to take the high overclocks. Also my bench mark scores are higher than yours and I haven't finished tweaking yet.
Or is it that the AM3+ borads are totally geared towards Bulldozer and that where they'll really start to shine...
All these rumours buzzing about the place about the second 4 CPUs being released after Christmas including top of range fx-8170p and they can't even get the first 4 CPUs out.
@ Bit-tech staff, what did you think of the hardocp.com review of this board? Did you encounter the issues they did? I ask because they said it was one of the worst motherboards they ever worked with (!!!), what with numerous silly issues and memory and overclocking issues. In effect they said it was awful and not ready to be released onto the buying public :S
P.S. The review was 'done' but not released some 4 weeks ago on an old BIOS version. F3 I think. What version did you test with?
I know the new Bulldozer "APUs" are in the latest issue of CPC, but are they on bit-tech? I've yet to pick up my copy but find it suprising that there's a motherboard review before the actual CPUs :?.
so wait are you guys working on a review for the MSI 990FXA-GD80? I did a search for it but couldnt find it, if its already out can some linky to it for me?
Originally Posted by vdbswong I know the new Bulldozer "APUs" are in the latest issue of CPC, but are they on bit-tech? I've yet to pick up my copy but find it suprising that there's a motherboard review before the actual CPUs :?.
Maybe i've missed it somewhere.
They are llano not bulldozer, there are no bulldozer APUs. APUs use older phenom K10 architecture.
Originally Posted by vdbswong I know the new Bulldozer "APUs" are in the latest issue of CPC, but are they on bit-tech? I've yet to pick up my copy but find it suprising that there's a motherboard review before the actual CPUs :?
Wha?!?! Where did you get this information from? AMD's Bulldozer chips don't even have an official release date yet, let alone any reviews out.
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn so wait are you guys working on a review for the MSI 990FXA-GD80? I did a search for it but couldnt find it, if its already out can some linky to it for me?
There is a review of the GD80 in the current issue of Custom PC. It may make it onto bit-tech but we have some other boards from the same group test that we want to put up first.
Originally Posted by Material Wha?!?! Where did you get this information from? AMD's Bulldozer chips don't even have an official release date yet, let alone any reviews out.
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Pretty sure he's confusing Llano (APU, GPU+CPU on die) and Bulldozer (high end CPU only).
Originally Posted by Lenderz Pretty sure he's confusing Llano (APU, GPU+CPU on die) and Bulldozer (high end CPU only).
Yes.. unfortunately i am -.-'.
God, i've never been confused by Hardware... i must be getting old (at 21)... or it's just confusing.
I was mistaking something James said in the last issue about a new era of CPUs (APUs and Integrated Graphics), the "Next-gen" AMD CPU reviews promised in the next issue (this issue) and didn't realise that we were on about a whole other level of architecture.
Let's just get this clear, is Bulldozer the FM1 socket?
Originally Posted by vdbswong God, i've never been confused by Hardware... i must be getting old (at 21)... or it's just confusing.
I was mistaking something James said in the last issue about a new era of CPUs (APUs and Integrated Graphics), the "Next-gen" AMD CPU reviews promised in the next issue (this issue) and didn't realise that we were on about a whole other level of architecture.
Let's just get this clear, is Bulldozer the FM1 socket?
No, Bulldozer is the family name for a new series of desktop and workstation/server CPUs that AMD hasn't launched yet. However, you can already buy motherboards for the desktop version, if it is Socket AM3+.
Llano on the other hand is an APU, and uses Socket FM1.
Originally Posted by Lizard No, Bulldozer is the family name for a new series of desktop and workstation/server CPUs that AMD hasn't launched yet. However, you can already buy motherboards for the desktop version, if it is Socket AM3+.
Llano on the other hand is an APU, and uses Socket FM1.
So pretty much a no no because it fails in so many levels for its range. I might give it a second chance when bulldozer comes out because it may shine with them but until then it's a kind of a fail
Kind of disapointing for that price range... I just picked up a UD3 and really saw no reason to pay more for the UD7's extra little features like onboard buttons and heatpipes, especially since both the UD3 and UD5 both have all the important core features of the UD7 but for alot less money.
Also, I think the OC review results might not be exactly representative because my UD3 pushed 4GHz and hit a higher HTT...
Originally Posted by vdbswong Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I shall look forward to that then =].
The issue currently on sale doesn't include any Llano coverage, that's going into the issue we're producing now (Issue 97) as it wasn't out in time for 96.
What you're getting confused by is the 'coming next month in Custom PC' section in the back of the mag as in Issue 95 we said we'd be looking at next gen AMD processors in the next mag (96). Unfortunately one of the articles in this section is fake, it always is, as is explained at the bottom of the section.
The fact we said that the AMD processors we'd be looking at would be 12 core APUs and that we'd be clocking them to 17GHz using liquid helium should be a pretty strong hint that that that is the fake story.
Originally Posted by Material The issue currently on sale doesn't include any Llano coverage, that's going into the issue we're producing now (Issue 97) as it wasn't out in time for 96.
What you're getting confused by is the 'coming next month in Custom PC' section in the back of the mag as in Issue 95 we said we'd be looking at next gen AMD processors in the next mag (96). Unfortunately one of the articles in this section is fake, it always is, as is explained at the bottom of the section.
The fact we said that the AMD processors we'd be looking at would be 12 core APUs and that we'd be clocking them to 17GHz using liquid helium should be a pretty strong hint that that that is the fake story.
Oh ffs.
Thanks for making me feel like more of a moron :P.
Swore i'd saw some other story at the back which i thought was fake.
Something's just not right with me at the moment apparently.
at least you didn't buy a Biostar TA790GX 128M - which can't even run the latest Phenom cpu's, uses DDR2 (which seemed a good idea at the time), and runs it's main PCI-E slot at 16x in the middle of of the board, rather than at the processor end. Last time I buy a Biostar board - it'll end up in the HTPC
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ReplyThat said I've got the cooling to take the high overclocks. Also my bench mark scores are higher than yours and I haven't finished tweaking yet.
Or is it that the AM3+ borads are totally geared towards Bulldozer and that where they'll really start to shine...
Take ocuk for example. Its £189.98 inc there...
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Similar board, (obviously lower spec) and basically half the price of this board!
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=397500 NZ$427
Ps: Wtf is bulldozer?!
AMD's new architecture (after K10)
All these rumours buzzing about the place about the second 4 CPUs being released after Christmas including top of range fx-8170p and they can't even get the first 4 CPUs out.
P.S. The review was 'done' but not released some 4 weeks ago on an old BIOS version. F3 I think. What version did you test with?
Thanks.
http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/1311591145.jpeg
Maybe i've missed it somewhere.
They are llano not bulldozer, there are no bulldozer APUs. APUs use older phenom K10 architecture.
Wha?!?! Where did you get this information from? AMD's Bulldozer chips don't even have an official release date yet, let alone any reviews out.
There is a review of the GD80 in the current issue of Custom PC. It may make it onto bit-tech but we have some other boards from the same group test that we want to put up first.
Pretty sure he's confusing Llano (APU, GPU+CPU on die) and Bulldozer (high end CPU only).
Yes.. unfortunately i am -.-'.
God, i've never been confused by Hardware... i must be getting old (at 21)... or it's just confusing.
I was mistaking something James said in the last issue about a new era of CPUs (APUs and Integrated Graphics), the "Next-gen" AMD CPU reviews promised in the next issue (this issue) and didn't realise that we were on about a whole other level of architecture.
Let's just get this clear, is Bulldozer the FM1 socket?
No, Bulldozer is the family name for a new series of desktop and workstation/server CPUs that AMD hasn't launched yet. However, you can already buy motherboards for the desktop version, if it is Socket AM3+.
Llano on the other hand is an APU, and uses Socket FM1.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
I shall look forward to that then =].
Also, I think the OC review results might not be exactly representative because my UD3 pushed 4GHz and hit a higher HTT...
The issue currently on sale doesn't include any Llano coverage, that's going into the issue we're producing now (Issue 97) as it wasn't out in time for 96.
What you're getting confused by is the 'coming next month in Custom PC' section in the back of the mag as in Issue 95 we said we'd be looking at next gen AMD processors in the next mag (96). Unfortunately one of the articles in this section is fake, it always is, as is explained at the bottom of the section.
The fact we said that the AMD processors we'd be looking at would be 12 core APUs and that we'd be clocking them to 17GHz using liquid helium should be a pretty strong hint that that that is the fake story.
Oh ffs.
Thanks for making me feel like more of a moron :P.
Swore i'd saw some other story at the back which i thought was fake.
Something's just not right with me at the moment apparently.
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