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MSI, AMD 890GX and Core Unlocking

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phuzz 16th April 2010, 11:02 Quote
If this is the sort of reporting we're going to get from Tiwan, then I'm glad you're out there Rich.
um, that sounded nicer in my head...

So why doesn't Intel try selling triple core CPUs? (or other CPUs with failed cores)
Denis_iii 16th April 2010, 11:46 Quote
sweeet :) i'd set my hopes on this board but after your original review i'd started looking elsewhere
I'll def pick one up now, throw it in a lian li v35ib with 2x5770's
do_it_anyway 16th April 2010, 11:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz

So why doesn't Intel try selling triple core CPUs? (or other CPUs with failed cores)

Possibly because they don't need to.
They have such a span of price points, that releasing a quad with a failed core, at a discounted price, would tread on the toes of one of their other CPU's.

On topic, the new bios looks great, and seems to help push AMD back towards a possible alternative to the Intel route
dec 16th April 2010, 12:22 Quote
Um rich

14 * 200 = 2800

14 * 240 = 3360

3360 - 2800 = 560, not 536 like on the 1st page.
perplekks45 16th April 2010, 12:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz
If this is the sort of reporting we're going to get from Tiwan, then I'm glad you're out there Rich.
um, that sounded nicer in my head...
It did but I still agree. ;)
TWeaK 16th April 2010, 12:48 Quote
So, in spite of this being potentially a good board now (assuming performance doesn't degrade when ironing out the last few bugs) this board or even the ASUS one won't actually make it into the buyer's guide. I'm eyeing up an AMD system now, but only because the cost of CPU + motherboard + RAM is small. If motherboard manufacterers can't get a cheap overclocking board with core unlocking out the door I'll only be looking at the last generation of boards.
Denis_iii 16th April 2010, 13:23 Quote
why wouldn't it make it into the buyers guide?

note: how about a SFF section in the buyers guide Bit-tech?
leexgx 16th April 2010, 14:18 Quote
[eurl=http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2010/03/02/asus-m4a89gtd-pro-usb-review/1]Asus M4A89GTD[/url]
last page remove the e from the brackets
TWeaK 16th April 2010, 15:35 Quote
It won't make it into the buyer's guide because AMD only make it into the budget build, and this board isn't budget. It might be an ok buy for someone who already has an AMD setup, or when Bulldozer comes, but right now Intel have them beat on performance for value at the higher price points.
Primoz 16th April 2010, 20:05 Quote
'Radeon 5870 1 GB' My ass, that's a Lightning ^^
Initialised 17th April 2010, 01:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by TWeaK
If motherboard manufacterers can't get a cheap overclocking board with core unlocking out the door I'll only be looking at the last generation of boards.
M4A78LT-M LE: unlocks 550, runs and overclocks 1055T, probably unlock 960T too.
Bindibadgi 17th April 2010, 17:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Primoz
'Radeon 5870 1 GB' My ass, that's a Lightning ^^

That's what I said in the text. It was clocked down to stock speeds.
TWeaK 18th April 2010, 08:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Initialised
M4A78LT-M LE: unlocks 550, runs and overclocks 1055T, probably unlock 960T too.

That board's a 760G, like I said manufacterers need to do something with the new 8xx series to get them up to the same level of funcionality as the 7xx series. Almost all the 7xx series had core unlocking, but now only a handful of 8xx series have it. What's the point of trying to save money with AMD and unlocking cores if you now have to buy one of the top end motherboards to get that feature?

Still, this doesn't really bother me. The only thing the 8xx series brings that I might want is USB3, and I haven't got a USB3 device and don't see myself getting one for a good while yet. I'll be happy getting a 7xx series when I come to upgrade (and spend the cash I save on a beefier GPU ^^)
[USRF]Obiwan 20th April 2010, 16:38 Quote
Is there a review comming of the Asrock 890GX Extreme3? It's cheaper, looks better and has a unlocking chip.

I wonder about the performance compared to the Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H, MSI 890GXM-G65 and Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3.
Cyberpower-UK 21st April 2010, 17:34 Quote
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Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like SLI will be supported at this point but that could very well change depending on NVIDIA’s licensing agreement with ASUS.
ASUS in talks with nvidia for SLI licensing on 890FX?

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/29767-asus-crosshair-iv-formula-am3-890fx-motherboard-sneak-peak-3.html

Hopefully 890FX will bring stability and a performance edge to the 4GHz x6 overclocks happening in secret labs throughout the hardware community as we speak.

Unlocking was 'blocked' on 890 for the same reasons as that bloke left a next gen Apple in a tech journo's lap. To get us talking about it and drum up AMD sales.
Cyberpower-UK 21st April 2010, 17:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by TWeaK
That board's a 760G... What's the point of trying to save money with AMD and unlocking cores if you now have to buy one of the top end motherboards to get that feature?
I think you just answered that!

760G boards are dirt cheap.
TWeaK 22nd April 2010, 08:48 Quote
My whole point is that you can get a cheap 7xx series board with core unlocking, but if you want the latest 8xx series you have to splash out to get that feature. If I do end up getting AMD, I'll definitely be looking at something like the M4A78LT-M LE with the 760G chipset. I'd prefer to get a similar model of an 8xx series though, but there's no point without core unlocking.
Cyberpower-UK 22nd April 2010, 12:52 Quote
Cheap low end 800 series board with unlocking and turbo tweaks will follow the high end stuff that's about to launch.
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 4th May 2010, 21:34 Quote
We all love spending countless hours tweaking, overclocking, and unlocking but AMD should just make a chip that can better compete with Intel without all the gimmicks. At this point Intel is just blowing AMD out the water as the Phenom is a bottleneck whore with or without overclocks and unlocks.
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