Given the absolutely atrocious performance of two of the three sets of SAT ports, I'm surprised it scored so highly.
Yes there may be six fast ports, but then why not just leave it at that? Unwittingly plug something into the wrong port and you're stuffed. It seems an unforgivable cutting of corners on a motherboard that costs the thick-end of £200...
Originally Posted by John_T Given the absolutely atrocious performance of two of the three sets of SAT ports, I'm surprised it scored so highly.
Yes there may be six fast ports, but then why not just leave it at that? Unwittingly plug something into the wrong port and you're stuffed. It seems an unforgivable cutting of corners on a motherboard that costs the thick-end of £200...
Because it's just one part of a much bigger picture, plus, the core SATA performance is excellent and you still get six drives to play with. Just use them for optical drives and you won't know any difference.
You can't easily unwittingly plug it into the wrong port if they look different and are placed completely apart. If you're stupid enough to do that, you're the type of person who won't notice the performance difference.:p
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi You can't easily unwittingly plug it into the wrong port if they look different and are placed completely apart. If you're stupid enough to do that, you're the type of person who won't notice the performance difference.:p
Thanks for that - and there was me stupid old me thinking the Red JMicron ports were at the bottom of the board, clustered close to six fast ones....
It's easy for us to know not to use them now as we've read your review and analysis, though I'm guessing that everyone who buys this board wont have read your review, (shocking and unbelievable as that may seem). :p
I know it's only a small part of the overall picture, but I still think it's a very important part, as it could potentially have such a massive impact - and I personally wouldn't consider someone stupid if they bought this nearly £200 motherboard and had the temerity to plug a SATA drive into a SATA port on it, mistakenly thinking that they were all good. In a modded case they may well be the most convenient set to use.
In fact, if I were to consider anyone stupid, it would probably be Asus for putting them there in the first place....
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi You can't easily unwittingly plug it into the wrong port if they look different and are placed completely apart. If you're stupid enough to do that, you're the type of person who won't notice the performance difference.:p
Thanks for that - and there was me stupid old me thinking the Red JMicron ports were at the bottom of the board, clustered close to six fast ones....
It's easy for us to know not to use them now as we've read your review and analysis, though I'm guessing that everyone who buys this board wont have read your review, (shocking and unbelievable as that may seem). :p
I know it's only a small part of the overall picture, but I still think it's a very important part, as it could potentially have such a massive impact - and I personally wouldn't consider someone stupid if they bought this nearly £200 motherboard and had the temerity to plug a SATA drive into a SATA port on it, mistakenly thinking that they were all good. In a modded case they may well be the most convenient set to use.
In fact, if I were to consider anyone stupid, it would probably be Asus for putting them there in the first place....
TBH I think it's fairly common knowledge that you should never, ever use a JMicron controller for your hard disk. They are almost always much slower than the core SATA ports. As lot of people disable them whilst overclocking too. If you didn't know this before that's fair enough but you do now ;)
Originally Posted by John_T Thanks for that - and there was me stupid old me thinking the Red JMicron ports were at the bottom of the board, clustered close to six fast ones....
It's easy for us to know not to use them now as we've read your review and analysis, though I'm guessing that everyone who buys this board wont have read your review, (shocking and unbelievable as that may seem). :p
I know it's only a small part of the overall picture, but I still think it's a very important part, as it could potentially have such a massive impact - and I personally wouldn't consider someone stupid if they bought this nearly £200 motherboard and had the temerity to plug a SATA drive into a SATA port on it, mistakenly thinking that they were all good. In a modded case they may well be the most convenient set to use.
In fact, if I were to consider anyone stupid, it would probably be Asus for putting them there in the first place....
Apologies, John, I used the wrong phrase.
The RoG boards are really for people who know what they are doing, otherwise we don't recommend they buy a £180 P55 motherboard. It would be a waste because an £80 motherboard does most of the same. Like Clive said above - there's the option to disable everything on the board, including these, and many people overclocking generally do that anyway.
I would advise users research their purchase always, and would like to think most enthusiasts would go for the P55 SATA ports first of all - if not exclusively - as these always offer the best performance.
fantastic board, and seeing the ROG connect working in live demonstration is really amazing.
very nice to see fan control in the BIOS..... when can we expect it in the normal boards, it's not like it's a super advanced innovation, such as ROG connect.
:( i think i am going to cry. I was just about to buy watercooling set for the entire board, plus two single pcb gtx 295 for it, but now i dont know what to do anymore. Dunno if i should go for x58 or if i should invest on the EVGA P55 Classified 200.
So confused now. what do i do? maybe i buy the Western Digital WD-TV v2 which got a golden medal instead, lol!
OK, sorry Bindi, I may have been a little tetchy there earlier. :)
I did my first, very simple, overclock back in 2003 - on an Asus board funnily enough, (got 20%, which made a big difference back then) but I've only really ever been on the very periphery of that side of things, hence my ignorance.
I still think it seems daft adding a pair of crappy SATA ports when apparently all those in the know, the target audience, will either avoid them like the plague or disable them completely - though maybe I'm just being fussy... (Which I guess is a distinct possibility).
Originally Posted by denis6902 are we going to see a review for the EVGA P55 Classified 200, Bindi?
I highly doubt it. I've got stuff coming out of my ears right now. With new Intel parts launching soon - we'll have a whole new range of boards to do. I've been sitting on the Maximus since September too :(
A humble request. Cue music - I remember back in the day, that BT provided a labeled schematic of the motherboard, on the layout page. Would it be possible to get this feature put back into MB reviews? I always found it useful in a geeky way, and I imagine that new system builders found it very informative, I certainly did.
As an incentive, I have it on good information that Father Christmas looks kindly on people who fulfill this type of request. *
*Legally, I must point out that there is no conclusive evidence of Father Christmas's existence, and the many images of said figure, may well be the machinations of Fat, beardy men, whom enjoy dressing in red suits.:D
Request noted! But unfortunately denied, sorry. It takes too long to do. We're trying to streamline the reviews a bit so we can get more done without losing too much detail.
If you have a specific question about the layout I dont mind answering it though ;)
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi Request noted! But unfortunately denied, sorry. It takes too long to do. We're trying to streamline the reviews a bit so we can get more done without losing too much detail.
If you have a specific question about the layout I dont mind answering it though ;)
I can understand the need to streamline, my scales are displaying some worrying numbers! But please don't loose too much detail, it is the site's USP, we don't need another Which magazine, with their 50 billion reviews per month:)
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi I highly doubt it. I've got stuff coming out of my ears right now. With new Intel parts launching soon - we'll have a whole new range of boards to do. I've been sitting on the Maximus since September too :(
Ok doky,
Is there a thread in bit tech that shows what is coming to be reviewed in the near future? What new intel parts btw?
Is there a thread in bit tech that shows what is coming to be reviewed in the near future? What new intel parts btw?
Regards mate
There's no thread with regards to upcoming reviews. Our calender changes on an almost daily basis. I'm also under NDA about upcoming Intel hardware but you can use your Googling skills to look up January 3rd ;)
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ReplyToo bad it can't perform up to it's price tag :(
Yes there may be six fast ports, but then why not just leave it at that? Unwittingly plug something into the wrong port and you're stuffed. It seems an unforgivable cutting of corners on a motherboard that costs the thick-end of £200...
I've expected something a little bit better for such price, especially from Asus.
Because it's just one part of a much bigger picture, plus, the core SATA performance is excellent and you still get six drives to play with. Just use them for optical drives and you won't know any difference.
You can't easily unwittingly plug it into the wrong port if they look different and are placed completely apart. If you're stupid enough to do that, you're the type of person who won't notice the performance difference.:p
Thanks for that - and there was me stupid old me thinking the Red JMicron ports were at the bottom of the board, clustered close to six fast ones....
It's easy for us to know not to use them now as we've read your review and analysis, though I'm guessing that everyone who buys this board wont have read your review, (shocking and unbelievable as that may seem). :p
I know it's only a small part of the overall picture, but I still think it's a very important part, as it could potentially have such a massive impact - and I personally wouldn't consider someone stupid if they bought this nearly £200 motherboard and had the temerity to plug a SATA drive into a SATA port on it, mistakenly thinking that they were all good. In a modded case they may well be the most convenient set to use.
In fact, if I were to consider anyone stupid, it would probably be Asus for putting them there in the first place....
"...though I'm guessing that not everyone who buys this board will have read your review..."
I'm slow, but I get there in the end. :D
TBH I think it's fairly common knowledge that you should never, ever use a JMicron controller for your hard disk. They are almost always much slower than the core SATA ports. As lot of people disable them whilst overclocking too. If you didn't know this before that's fair enough but you do now ;)
Apologies, John, I used the wrong phrase.
The RoG boards are really for people who know what they are doing, otherwise we don't recommend they buy a £180 P55 motherboard. It would be a waste because an £80 motherboard does most of the same. Like Clive said above - there's the option to disable everything on the board, including these, and many people overclocking generally do that anyway.
I would advise users research their purchase always, and would like to think most enthusiasts would go for the P55 SATA ports first of all - if not exclusively - as these always offer the best performance.
So, not stupid, just misguided. ;)
Bindi Stupid! :D
Sorry I was talking to Clive earlier about it.
very nice to see fan control in the BIOS..... when can we expect it in the normal boards, it's not like it's a super advanced innovation, such as ROG connect.
So confused now. what do i do? maybe i buy the Western Digital WD-TV v2 which got a golden medal instead, lol!
OK, sorry Bindi, I may have been a little tetchy there earlier. :)
I did my first, very simple, overclock back in 2003 - on an Asus board funnily enough, (got 20%, which made a big difference back then) but I've only really ever been on the very periphery of that side of things, hence my ignorance.
I still think it seems daft adding a pair of crappy SATA ports when apparently all those in the know, the target audience, will either avoid them like the plague or disable them completely - though maybe I'm just being fussy... (Which I guess is a distinct possibility).
I highly doubt it. I've got stuff coming out of my ears right now. With new Intel parts launching soon - we'll have a whole new range of boards to do. I've been sitting on the Maximus since September too :(
As an incentive, I have it on good information that Father Christmas looks kindly on people who fulfill this type of request. *
*Legally, I must point out that there is no conclusive evidence of Father Christmas's existence, and the many images of said figure, may well be the machinations of Fat, beardy men, whom enjoy dressing in red suits.:D
E.G. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2009/05/04/msi-790fx-gd70/2
If you have a specific question about the layout I dont mind answering it though ;)
I can understand the need to streamline, my scales are displaying some worrying numbers! But please don't loose too much detail, it is the site's USP, we don't need another Which magazine, with their 50 billion reviews per month:)
Ok doky,
Is there a thread in bit tech that shows what is coming to be reviewed in the near future? What new intel parts btw?
Regards mate
There's no thread with regards to upcoming reviews. Our calender changes on an almost daily basis. I'm also under NDA about upcoming Intel hardware but you can use your Googling skills to look up January 3rd ;)
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