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Gigabyte GA-EP45-DQ6

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wuyanxu 18th June 2008, 09:13 Quote
4 LAN ports? i've never even touched the 2nd LAN port on my Abit iP35 Pro.
am i building a router or a computer with this motherboard?

think practical, not useless big numbers, god!

personally, i would not even consider this board. looking forward to (and considering) Abit iP45 Pro or Asus Maximus 2 Formula. (hint, hint for review :) )
Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 09:19 Quote
I know I know

Abit IP45 is available mid-July and we're waiting for the Max 2 Form BIOS to mature first :) (that's my excuse for a ton of other things to do first)
The boy 4rm oz 18th June 2008, 09:19 Quote
Exactly what I was thinking, why would I need 4 lol. I actually use both on my DFI 680ilt board, one for the lan between me and my brothers PC and I leave the other for major LAN party's I go to.
DXR_13KE 18th June 2008, 09:38 Quote
4 lan ports?!?
i would substitute 2 of them for something a little more useful....
[USRF]Obiwan 18th June 2008, 10:15 Quote
Besides the ridiculous 4 lan ports, I have always disliked the 'teletubby' color scheme of Gigabyte motherboards, and why not use 90degree connectors for all Sata buses.
Kúsař 18th June 2008, 11:18 Quote
When will motherboard developers stop including that obsolete floppy connector? It's waste of space & money. I haven't used it for ages(not even for updating BIOS)
Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 11:48 Quote
They DO want to drop it, but people still request it - like they request parallel ports ffs
zero0ne 18th June 2008, 11:52 Quote
4 eth ports are very usable!

get a 24port gig switch, team the 4 ports on the mobo together, and now with the 10 1TB HDs you have, you could have that real-time HD feed being saved to your drive, while also compressing it into a MKV, and also while streaming that mkv back to like 10 computers for the 10 70" 1080P screens in your house...

opps I think i went overboard... :P
Kúsař 18th June 2008, 12:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
They DO want to drop it, but people still request it - like they request parallel ports ffs

But how many people? Anyone can buy USB floppy drive(IMO better solution)
Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 12:29 Quote
Don't ask me - I was just told "people" :s
Bauul 18th June 2008, 12:45 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kúsař
When will motherboard developers stop including that obsolete floppy connector? It's waste of space & money. I haven't used it for ages(not even for updating BIOS)

They include it because how else would you run all your old Lucas Arts games?
Phil Rhodes 18th June 2008, 13:15 Quote
You have to run a whole bunch of extra software to fire USB up - hence its notoriety for eating CPU time. People building embedded systems which don't necessarily run windows can be quite sensitive to that sort of thing, and may well need floppy drives. But even those situations, I think, are now getting very rare and would probably not use this sort of board anyway - I'm surprised they still need floppy ports.

But I must question some of the audio figures. -98dB would be a good noise level on a piece of broadcast television equipment and it beggars belief that it's achievable on a PC motherboard among a million and one sources of RFI. What's the test setup here? How's the grounding worked out? Have you considered doing this as a round-trip reading?

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Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 13:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
What's the test setup here? How's the grounding worked out? Have you considered doing this as a round-trip reading?

P

It's simply a cable loopback test using Rightmark audio analysis, there's nothing special about it.
[USRF]Obiwan 18th June 2008, 13:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
They DO want to drop it, but people still request it - like they request parallel ports ffs

Weird.. They make a enthusiast board and to my knowledge, there is not one enthusiast who uses a floppy nowadays. It would be a great idea if Bit-Tech tries to investigate this and ask 'all' mayor motherboard manufacturers why they still insist to include this obsolete technology. There is absolutely no reason to still integrate this on the motherboard because you can use a external usb fdd.
MrWizard 18th June 2008, 15:24 Quote
Initial impression: That's a whole lotta' heatpipe!

But seriously, they tried to cram too much junk onto this chipset. I'll take the plethora of USB ports, but they can keep a couple of those ethernet jacks.

We should make a petition in favor of removing the floppy connector from existence.
Phil Rhodes 18th June 2008, 15:46 Quote
> It's simply a cable loopback test using Rightmark audio analysis, there's nothing special about it.

A-weighted? Psycho-acoustic function?

I would look again at your test methodology. -98dB on an unbalanced mic input, on a device which costs £150, is - for want of a better word and accepting that Gigabyte may have come up with something genuinely new and amazing - not really feasible.

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Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 16:25 Quote
Try it yourself - install RMAA 6.06, find a good quality male to male loopback cable and plug it into speaker out and microphone input. Disable all audio enhancements and adjust the levels so the speaker is about 75 percent and microphone reaches a level that leaves RMAA "in the green". It's not the best test in the world, but its consistent and a number comparison without having to buying serious equipment.
Cupboard 18th June 2008, 17:41 Quote
Sorry, I am really confused about the PCIe configurations. I presume you can't have all of them at full speed (i.e. x16(V2), x16, x4, x4) so is it
16(2) 16 0 0
8(2) 8 4 4
or something like that? Wikipedia is useless and Intel seems to say that you can have one x16 (v2) slot and then a maximum of 16 PCIe (v1) lanes configured however you like. Is that right?
ComputerKing 18th June 2008, 17:46 Quote
LAME mother board. I hate gigabyte. Asus rocks the hell out. I got my asus rampage over the X48 DQ6 and I'm happy that I did that.

all motherboards I owned it the past years was gigabyte but each one had a problem, like my older one 965-DQ6, It was bad OCing and Have damaged sensors etc.....

Gigabyte motherboards looks like kids toys. Colors are mixed and no cool look at all.

Thanks BT for the review. ;)
Phil Rhodes 18th June 2008, 18:19 Quote
Well for a start you're plugging a line output into a mic input, which is... wrong?

The usual way to determine noise would be to have the device process (that is, record or loop through) test tone from an external device. That clears up any common grounding issues and gives you a better idea.

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Bindibadgi 18th June 2008, 18:55 Quote
True, I could use the Xonar as an external playback and recording devise since it'll always be higher quality but this is how RMAA describes the simple test to be run: http://audio.rightmark.org/downloads/RMAA%206.0%20User's%20Guide.pdf
xtremeownage 18th June 2008, 20:11 Quote
Here is how things stand. You buy a motherboard and you get no performance improvement or features you would ever use. Why do they do it.keep refining there products with no actual technological improvements is because they want people to keep buying. Same old same old. Frankly what i have now is pretty much what i need in todays digital world. I can play all the latest games, do work, make movies, edit photos etc. Motherboards the the most overated piece of junk in all PC components.

Heres to all of you who read the whole article.:

Will crysis improve by a larger percentage as a result of buying this.?Will any game?
Will your computer be any more powerful? Will you use the add-on features as essentials in your everyday life?
Is it worth the price in todays age where GPU,CPU, and Motherboard are the same price?
Why bother make it big news on Bit-tech?

There indulge your selfs in these questions. Have fun
Cupboard 18th June 2008, 22:49 Quote
@xtremeownage
The answer to your questions is very possibly, yes. Now, if I had a decent last gen board (which I do) and only run one graphics card (which I do) and don't need 4 network holes (ditto) then there would be little point in an upgrade. However, if I was trying to squeeze every last MHz out of a processor, it might be worth a change (hence why the overclocking results are included) and if I were using an old board then this review would be very helpful.

As it is, I am left thinking "Good, no need for an upgrade then" but If I was trying to run Crossfire on a P35 motherboard, or had an AMD setup and wanted to change to an Intel setup or any one of thousands of possibilities then this review would have been extremely helpful.

As it was, I still enjoyed the read!

Oh, and the answers to your questions:
1)Crysis? Possibly, depending on what you are upgrading from/choosing between
2)Extra feature. As it says in the article, they are there for those that need them. You can buy a cheaper board if you don't need them
3)Possibly, yes. If I was running a nice new quad core processor with a 9800GX2 on an old NF4 motherboard (very possible) then it probably would be worth the upgrade.
4) It is a hardware site. A top of the line motherboard for a major manufacturer has been released. It wouldn't make sense for them not to review it and it would probably cost them financially too.
edit2: and yes I did have fun writing that. A very good way to put off chemistry revision
koajoe 19th June 2008, 00:48 Quote
Nice review.

What is the deal with two different sata chipsets? 4 on one and 6 on the other . Does one have hot-swap capability for e-sata (and yes I know you need a bracket)? My Nf4 680i does not allow hot-swap :-( or I could not get it to work.
Woodstock 19th June 2008, 02:58 Quote
looks like the p5q pro, will be the way to go for me still
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