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MSI P35 Diamond

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widmod 24th September 2007, 17:17 Quote
you can't use this motherboard without a graphic card?
some special fans in the circuit heatpipes would have been nice
quite much PCI slots are used if you trow everything in which is in the box :(
DivineSin 24th September 2007, 22:23 Quote
Is it just me or are most of the higher class motherboards coming short of expectations, and not worth it when you consider price?
ssj12 25th September 2007, 04:25 Quote
this is supposed to be a high class motherboard? im not impressed.
Woodstock 25th September 2007, 07:39 Quote
wholly crap crossfire 1600*1200 is an incredible boost.
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. I constantly found myself writing "disappointed" here and there, which I still am - it just doesn't live up to what we'd expect from a Diamond-series board - especially since I've seen what the X38 Diamond has in potential. At most it's an expensive Platinum and makes the real P35 Platinum a far better purchase than when we originally reviewed it.

I think they consentrated on the X38 instead
Tim S 25th September 2007, 10:07 Quote
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Is it just me or are most of the higher class motherboards coming short of expectations, and not worth it when you consider price?

A lot of them are, yes... you just can't put a few flashing lights on the board and increase the price by 50 percent.

I think the problem for most high-end boards at the moment is making the choice between DDR2 and DDR3 - if you head into the realms of DDR3, you're going to be classed as expensive because that's exactly what DDR3 is. There's no way to get around that. :)
Woodstock 25th September 2007, 11:16 Quote
correct me if im wrong (i must be) but wouldnt 16 * 4 (total of 20) use more pci express lanes then 8 *8 (total of 16)
Tim S 25th September 2007, 11:29 Quote
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correct me if im wrong (i must be) but wouldnt 16 * 4 (total of 20) use more pci express lanes then 8 *8 (total of 16)

That's right, but P35 has a limitation where you cannot split the first 16 lanes into two eights. You have to run at full x16 bandwidth in the primary slot, unless you use a lane splitter (that's what Asus did on the Blitz). :)
Bindibadgi 25th September 2007, 11:58 Quote
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correct me if im wrong (i must be) but wouldnt 16 * 4 (total of 20) use more pci express lanes then 8 *8 (total of 16)

16 from the northbridge, 6 from southbridge - 4 are used to the second slot, one is for the gigabit ethernet and one is for the marvell ide chipset.

So Crossfire data has to navigate and fill the DMI between NB and SB, unlike X38 which is all connected to the NB so the whole thing should be lower latency.
Woodstock 25th September 2007, 12:14 Quote
edit: ingnore
Woodstock 25th September 2007, 12:15 Quote
edit: ingnore
Woodstock 25th September 2007, 12:16 Quote
i see said the blind man to the deaf monkey
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Originally Posted by Woodstock
correct me if im wrong (i must be) but wouldnt 16 * 4 (total of 20) use more pci express lanes then 8 *8 (total of 16)

That's right, but P35 has a limitation where you cannot split the first 16 lanes into two eights. You have to run at full x16 bandwidth in the primary slot, unless you use a lane splitter (that's what Asus did on the Blitz). :)

which costs money of cause
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