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ATI's RD580: ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe

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DanaG 3rd March 2006, 06:01 Quote
The Xpress 200 gave 20 PCIe lanes, right? Therefore, they should call this one (that has 40 lanes, if I remember correctly) Xpress 400, not 3200.
BTRY B 529th FA BN 3rd March 2006, 08:29 Quote
So both the A8R32 and A8N32 have 4pin 12v connectors. How do i get my Enermax Liberty to work with either of them. I think it has the 8pin 12v

529th
hitman012 3rd March 2006, 08:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by BTRY B 529th FA BN
So both the A8R32 and A8N32 have 4pin 12v connectors. How do i get my Enermax Liberty to work with either of them. I think it has the 8pin 12v
It'll probably be splittable you should be able to take half of it off. If that's not the case, then you could probably connect it with the extra 4 pins overhanging the connector.
Bindibadgi 3rd March 2006, 09:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by bigz
It implies fast. ;)

But it means nothing. The fact that "RD580" means more to people than "Xpress 3200" (of course, it's GOT to be with an X) is a failing on the part of ATI. I mean, I know a fair bit but until you told me about "Xpress Routes" even I was non the wiser, so wtf is joe public gonna know!?
BTRY B 529th FA BN 3rd March 2006, 09:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by hitman012
It'll probably be splittable you should be able to take half of it off. If that's not the case, then you could probably connect it with the extra 4 pins overhanging the connector.

man that 8pin connector really looked like it was one piece, whew!

Liberty Enermax 620 has seperate 12v CPU/MB rails (2x4pin)
Tim S 3rd March 2006, 10:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by DanaG
The Xpress 200 gave 20 PCIe lanes, right? Therefore, they should call this one (that has 40 lanes, if I remember correctly) Xpress 400, not 3200.
They're working on the whole 32 lanes of graphics marketing scheme. ;)
Harlequin 4th March 2006, 16:57 Quote
i have a question for the person who tested this:

if you`ve still got it can you try something for me?

there is a rumour on teh internet that this board can use crossfire without the need for a master card - when using x1000 series cards.


so could it be tested with 2 X1800XL`s or XT`s - normal vanilla cards and not a master one?


if it does work with 2 X1800XL`s then that combo will be very good value for money AND very fast
JaredC01 4th March 2006, 18:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
i have a question for the person who tested this:

if you`ve still got it can you try something for me?

there is a rumour on teh internet that this board can use crossfire without the need for a master card - when using x1000 series cards.


so could it be tested with 2 X1800XL`s or XT`s - normal vanilla cards and not a master one?


if it does work with 2 X1800XL`s then that combo will be very good value for money AND very fast
That is true, but only for the x1300 and x1600, and it's not just true for this board, it's simply the way ATI designed them. The higher level cards must have a master card, along with a regular card.
Tim S 4th March 2006, 18:49 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlequin
i have a question for the person who tested this:

if you`ve still got it can you try something for me?

there is a rumour on teh internet that this board can use crossfire without the need for a master card - when using x1000 series cards.


so could it be tested with 2 X1800XL`s or XT`s - normal vanilla cards and not a master one?


if it does work with 2 X1800XL`s then that combo will be very good value for money AND very fast
That won't work because you need a master card with X1800 and above at the moment. You can use X1600 and X1300 without the need for a master card, but then it's a bit of a waste spending so much on a motherboard when you're spending less than the price of the motherboard on each graphics card. That's why we didn't test connector-less CrossFire in this board. ;)
Harlequin 4th March 2006, 21:53 Quote
could you give it a try? try 2 different x1800`s in crossfire but not the master card? itt was supposed to be a feature of the board you see - that all x1000 series cards can work without a master
Tim S 4th March 2006, 21:55 Quote
Trust me, it doesn't work... That's based on what I've been told by ATI.
Bindibadgi 4th March 2006, 22:30 Quote
The X1600 and below are not powerful enough to saturate the x16/x8 buses so dont need the dongle, and hence, master card. But everything above wouldnt have enough manwidth I assume.
Harlequin 4th March 2006, 22:47 Quote
well , i`ve seen 2 asus X1900XT cards , both are the non crossfire version (white fan not the black fan on the crossfire version) running in crossfire mode. review on another website.


bigz - please try it -i think that it WILL work , and ati hust don`t want people knowing it will work and will buy the *expensive* master cards.
unrealhippie 4th March 2006, 23:04 Quote
we all wanna know, do as harle says!

ATI really need to clarify this!

P.s. Looks promising!
teamtd11 5th March 2006, 01:42 Quote
most of the first x1900 masters where white. thats where you could be getting this problem from. at least no i know why i never see any x1600 master cards
Tim S 5th March 2006, 15:35 Quote
I don't know where you've heard about this weird rumour that two slave X1800's will work in CrossFire. I don't have a pair of X1800's, but I do have two X1900XTX's at the moment. I've installed them in the ASUS A8R32-MVP and literally nothing happens - it doesn't recognise the second card at all.

Both X1800 and X1900 use exactly the same compositing engine so that myth is not true.
ozstrike 5th March 2006, 15:47 Quote
It doesn't recognise the second card at all? Meaning that if you wanted to have two cards for 4 monitors, then you would have to get the Crossfire master card anyway, regardless of whether you need the compositing features or not?
Tim S 5th March 2006, 18:13 Quote
I forgot to update my post... :o

I tried again and you can see the card, but can't enable CrossFire.
BTRY B 529th FA BN 7th March 2006, 07:17 Quote
I've been reading a few reviews off the New Egg sigth on this MB and 5 out of 6 say the thing has serious bios issues. I hope this is not some epidemic with these boards.
Tim S 7th March 2006, 08:36 Quote
AFAIK, there's a new BIOS out which is said to fix any of the problems there were.
BTRY B 529th FA BN 7th March 2006, 16:02 Quote
So, then its not just a few boards having trouble, its most of the batch/bunch?

Thanks,

529th
Sathy 7th March 2006, 23:52 Quote
Another interesting read, damn I'm alot behind in reading the newest articles =]

One thing I thought about when you pointed to the extreme overclocking capabilities was that it would have been interesting to know how far it actually is possible to push the FSB? It's a pretty important factor in overclocking anyway.

This does give an idea of it's possibilities though. In three out of the top-4 they've used the same board as reviewed here (and the fourth is based on RD580 but not named yet) way to go ATI I'd say! =]
Tim S 8th March 2006, 11:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by BTRY B 529th FA BN
So, then its not just a few boards having trouble, its most of the batch/bunch?

Thanks,

529th
As far as I know, yes. The early batch has some issues, but I've been assured that the newer boards are alright - I should have a new one in the labs when I get back from CEBIT.
Bindibadgi 8th March 2006, 11:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by BTRY B 529th FA BN
So, then its not just a few boards having trouble, its most of the batch/bunch?

Thanks,

529th

That's not irregular with EVERY early board. Early BIOS' are notorious for being crap. It takes about 2 months before they iron out most of the bugs on nearly every single board released from every manufacturer.
Sherk 8th March 2006, 22:39 Quote
Too bad Newegg's jacked up their prices, and never have the board... I guess I'll have to go somewhere else. I really want to try out one of these boards, I have a spanky Opty 165 that does 2.7 on air. :)

Update: This weekend Newegg had a sale for $195, so for a little over $200 I picked one of these up! Woohoo!
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