1T is not twice as fast in practise, the gains from it are there, but not huge, its desirable to run with 1T, but dont think its the end of the earth if you cant. :)
Originally Posted by specofdust 1T is not twice as fast in practise, the gains from it are there, but not huge, its desirable to run with 1T, but dont think its the end of the earth if you cant. :)
But it just seems a little silly to buy super fast memory like the OCZ PC4800, and then to run it in 2T....
Originally Posted by bigz But it just seems a little silly to buy super fast memory like the OCZ PC4800, and then to run it in 2T....
I would agree, I was just saying, in case he chose to buy stuff that could only manage 2T, or in case other people who read the topic thought that the difference between 1T and 2T was this huge deal :)
It's not possible on all but one board (which I wouldn't recommend using because, from my experience with it, it sucks).
Until AMD change the way their memory controller works, you're going to be limited to 2T with 4 modules. I'm not sure how DFI managed it with the RDX200, but I would imagine that something was 'hacked'.
Originally Posted by bigz It's not possible on all but one board (which I wouldn't recommend using because, from my experience with it, it sucks).
Until AMD change the way their memory controller works, you're going to be limited to 2T with 4 modules. I'm not sure how DFI managed it with the RDX200, but I would imagine that something was 'hacked'.
I'm soooooo sick and tired having a noisy NB-cooler on my K8N Diamond.. This could be my next mobo. BUT as I don't overclock, has this any REAL pros compared to A8N premium? My point is to have heatpipe-NB-cooler...
I don't have no PCI-cards so it's no problem... Neither do I have SLi - atleast not yet. AC97 could be a problem, but then again... I'm not a hi-fi-geek, just a normal hometheater-owner.
External SATA is probably the only "pro" out of the points you mentioned. The AC'97 sound solution isn't bad, but it is disappointing that there isn't something better - especially when competitors have better solutions. :)
Originally Posted by Jipa AC97 could be a problem, but then again... I'm not a hi-fi-geek, just a normal hometheater-owner.
If you enjoys suround sound. Then you better get a soundcard with DD decoder. The ac79 onboard does not decode DD suround from games or audio sources. It sends out the signal in stereo on the spdif optical/digital outs. The same goes for the DVD, its decoded bij the ac3 decoder of your dvd software player. Raking cpu time to decode the DD streams...
It's for keeping the PWM area cool if you're using water cooling, mosfets and caps tend to get very hot, and that leads to instability, its ok in a well ventilated case, but many watercooled cases have bad ventilation.
Originally Posted by specofdust It's for keeping the PWM area cool if you're using water cooling, mosfets and caps tend to get very hot, and that leads to instability, its ok in a well ventilated case, but many watercooled cases have bad ventilation.
oh i see, ill be testing a watercooled PC soon, ill have to check for that problem.
Instead of fiddling so much with the ill-placed jumper, would it not be easier just to disconect the rig from mains and then pop the battery out for a few seconds?
The guys and gals at ASUS has done a impressive job on this board, atleast from a technical point of view, but i'm a little bit disapointed of all the things that could have been designed just a little bit better to make it perfect. Ofcource 'perfect' is a highly subjective opinion, but as the review points out, there is room for improvement. For example, is it really neccessary to have three (!) seperate power cables down from the PSU to feed it? Atleast group them together so one could zip-tie the cables together for a cleaner look.
While I'm no motherboard designer by any means, I'm puzzled over why they don't allow space around the CPU socket for an enthusiast cooler, on an enthusiast board?
Nowadays, when 'everybody' got a windowed case, I think the vendor that comes up with a decent board in one or atleast a few colors (like black/gold), would sell alot. And i'm not just talking about the PCB. I mean, enthusiasts knows what a SATA port looks like, or manage to identify USB headers with a little help from the manual. It does not need to be flashy red or whatever. All the white printing identifying every single component (both on the chips themselves and the PCB) is also uneccesary and messy in my opinion. Just call the board 'stealth' and it would probably sell itself.
Am I the only one with a can of spray paint in my hands, voiding my warranty?
Originally Posted by StreaM Instead of fiddling so much with the ill-placed jumper, would it not be easier just to disconect the rig from mains and then pop the battery out for a few seconds?
That's what I ended up doing because I got fed up with fiddling with the CMOS reset jumper. It's no excuse for a poorly placed CMOS jumper though - it could have been in an number of places other than right under the bottom PCI-Express x16 slot. ;)
If anything, it's a sign of a good board when you're picking on little things like the placement of a CMOS jumper.
While I agree with some of your points StreaM, the little white writing on all the motherboards I've ever had has been extremely usefull to me, especially in times when I don't have a motherboard available.
Please heed my warning....
i have been incontact with asus reps for last couple weeks without a valid solution being presented... now asus refuses to reply to my email because they cannot figure out their problems.
I have two machines side by side
both amd 4k's one using a8nsli premium board other is using a8n32-sli deluxe
the a8n-sli premium board runs perfectly, beautiful design... cootos'
the a8n32-sli deluxe ..... this motherboard DOES NOT support memory divider or a ratio option.... the option this board does come with is a simple fsb limiter.... this DOES NOT set the mhz on the ram itself, its designed to cut the ENTIRE fsb down to the selected speeds (will drop ur fsb from 800 to the selected speed *200 or 216 or 233 w/e u were attempting to set the ram speeds to* I have proven this to asus level 2 tech support in which i am now being ignored and i have tried all the latest bios releases....
furious with asus i doubt i will be purchasing another asus board for quite some time even tho i am a fan of the a8n sli premium board soley because of their attitude and ignorance regarding their problems. If ss's are needed to back up my statements please feel free to msg/reply/email w/e ill put them up when needed, both boards side by side, with and without limiter being set.
AVOID THIS BOARD
do yourself a favor and boycott this board
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I would agree, I was just saying, in case he chose to buy stuff that could only manage 2T, or in case other people who read the topic thought that the difference between 1T and 2T was this huge deal :)
Until AMD change the way their memory controller works, you're going to be limited to 2T with 4 modules. I'm not sure how DFI managed it with the RDX200, but I would imagine that something was 'hacked'.
I don't have no PCI-cards so it's no problem... Neither do I have SLi - atleast not yet. AC97 could be a problem, but then again... I'm not a hi-fi-geek, just a normal hometheater-owner.
I think I must search a A8N Premium-review and read it through also.
and oh, one thing for sure: I will NOT buy MSI!
If you enjoys suround sound. Then you better get a soundcard with DD decoder. The ac79 onboard does not decode DD suround from games or audio sources. It sends out the signal in stereo on the spdif optical/digital outs. The same goes for the DVD, its decoded bij the ac3 decoder of your dvd software player. Raking cpu time to decode the DD streams...
While I'm no motherboard designer by any means, I'm puzzled over why they don't allow space around the CPU socket for an enthusiast cooler, on an enthusiast board?
Nowadays, when 'everybody' got a windowed case, I think the vendor that comes up with a decent board in one or atleast a few colors (like black/gold), would sell alot. And i'm not just talking about the PCB. I mean, enthusiasts knows what a SATA port looks like, or manage to identify USB headers with a little help from the manual. It does not need to be flashy red or whatever. All the white printing identifying every single component (both on the chips themselves and the PCB) is also uneccesary and messy in my opinion. Just call the board 'stealth' and it would probably sell itself.
Am I the only one with a can of spray paint in my hands, voiding my warranty?
PS: Will never double reply again *promise*
If anything, it's a sign of a good board when you're picking on little things like the placement of a CMOS jumper.
i have been incontact with asus reps for last couple weeks without a valid solution being presented... now asus refuses to reply to my email because they cannot figure out their problems.
I have two machines side by side
both amd 4k's one using a8nsli premium board other is using a8n32-sli deluxe
the a8n-sli premium board runs perfectly, beautiful design... cootos'
the a8n32-sli deluxe ..... this motherboard DOES NOT support memory divider or a ratio option.... the option this board does come with is a simple fsb limiter.... this DOES NOT set the mhz on the ram itself, its designed to cut the ENTIRE fsb down to the selected speeds (will drop ur fsb from 800 to the selected speed *200 or 216 or 233 w/e u were attempting to set the ram speeds to* I have proven this to asus level 2 tech support in which i am now being ignored and i have tried all the latest bios releases....
furious with asus i doubt i will be purchasing another asus board for quite some time even tho i am a fan of the a8n sli premium board soley because of their attitude and ignorance regarding their problems. If ss's are needed to back up my statements please feel free to msg/reply/email w/e ill put them up when needed, both boards side by side, with and without limiter being set.
AVOID THIS BOARD
do yourself a favor and boycott this board