Why only give a report on out of the box performance. You had a colorimeter, why not calibrate it and see how good it can actually be? It's not a big job, and takes no longer than measuring it's out of the box performance.
You mention sRGB mode, which makes me assume this is a wide gamut screen, but the review doesn't actually specify this. What's it's percentage of Adobe RGB1998? How does PLS fair with IPS with black levels off axis? There's so much missing here, and so much fail in this review.
I still don't see why when your CPU, GPU and other hardware reviews are so technically detailed you insist on doing these consumer style monitor reviews. I thought this was a serious hardware and modding site?
It would be nice to see calibrated results - I agree. Also it would be great to include monitor recommendations in the Buyer's Guide. Oh and the moon on a stick :p
Seems it's high time to get a Samsung SyncMaster S27A850T (or Samsung SyncMaster S24A850DW for 24") if you want a monitor with a _matte_ PLS panel and which doesn't look you into a certain stand.
I know this is a bit nit-picky but I don't like the idea of having a stand that holds all of your connections.
Supposing you had enough money to burn and you wanted to mount six together on one of those multi monitor mounts, with your connections built into the stand you are going to have a real problem. Wall mounting might also be an issue, so I suppose you would simply look elsewhere.
Very pretty looking but, for £800, I'd want the option to wall mount it if I felt the need.
I'd only give it a feature score that high if the stand was removable, it had a vesa mount and a second set of inputs. Me no likely the need for a power brick either.
My wallet can rest easy, as there's little danger of me wanting one, never mind buying one.
Well, considering that the S27B970 and the S27A850T use identical panels (except perhaps for a minor revision) why would you ever choose the former over the latter, when the latter is a lot cheaper (about 500 GBP) and doesn't lock you in with a specific stand that holds most of the electronic components. Oh, and the latter has a matte panel to boot.
Originally Posted by azrael- Well, considering that the S27B970 and the S27A850T use identical panels (except perhaps for a minor revision) why would you ever choose the former over the latter, when the latter is a lot cheaper (about 500 GBP) and doesn't lock you in with a specific stand that holds most of the electronic components. Oh, and the latter has a matte panel to boot.
Because it's shiny. This is why we can't have nice things. Being all sensible! :D
Originally Posted by srgtherasta The usb ports are on the back of the bottom of the stand? yea that's handy Not
The USB ports look like they're on the side of the base.
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Originally Posted by johnnyboy700 I know this is a bit nit-picky but I don't like the idea of having a stand that holds all of your connections.
Supposing you had enough money to burn and you wanted to mount six together on one of those multi monitor mounts, with your connections built into the stand you are going to have a real problem. Wall mounting might also be an issue, so I suppose you would simply look elsewhere.
looking at it, I don't think it has Vesa mounts so you wouldn't be able to use it on a mounting bracket anyway.
I can understand why monitors for photo editing etc command a high price, but with lag on modern TVs usually being extremely low, how can you justify spending that much on a monitor for anything else. Resolutions above 1080p only make a difference if you sit with your face stuck to the screen, particularly with AA enabled, and colour reproduction, black levels etc. are usually better handled by decent quality TVs.
I'd rather stick with my 42" Panasonic G20 for PC, PS3 and films rather than spend £800 on a 27" monitor!
The comparison to Apple's Thunderbolt display is an interesting one - the Samsung is cheaper, but the Apple is made of solid aluminium (so no wobble) and also includes things like a gigabit ethernet port, HD webcam, FireWire... Basically, I think Samsung should have made this even cheaper, competing with the U2711's price rather than Apple.
Originally Posted by Pookeyhead Sorry Bit, but your monitor reviews are terrible.
Pookey speaketh the truth.
Doesn't go into anywhere near enough detail to let me know whether this monitor is worth buying over an Apple or Dell. It's an opinion piece, and by the sound of it, written by someone who's new to 27" monitors (Hence the comments about getting used to smaller icon sizes)
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Samsung is hoping that design and a few extra features such as MHL and personalised calibration will be enough to justify spending an extra £275
The Dell 2711 is individually calibrated and comes with a printed report (As do the pro 24")
Originally Posted by Star*Dagger Please list the price in Euros, since the rest of Europe got rid of its boutique currencies, thanks.
Yeah, because that's worked out really well so far hasn't it, I can see why people would want to be smug. Anyway, 'the rest of' is a slight exaggeration - unless countries like Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Czech Republic, Poland and more aren't real countries...
Originally Posted by Pookeyhead Shiny screen = fail. Nice looking screen though.
Why only give a report on out of the box performance. You had a colorimeter, why not calibrate it and see how good it can actually be? It's not a big job, and takes no longer than measuring it's out of the box performance.
You mention sRGB mode, which makes me assume this is a wide gamut screen, but the review doesn't actually specify this. What's it's percentage of Adobe RGB1998? How does PLS fair with IPS with black levels off axis? There's so much missing here, and so much fail in this review.
I still don't see why when your CPU, GPU and other hardware reviews are so technically detailed you insist on doing these consumer style monitor reviews. I thought this was a serious hardware and modding site?
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ReplyWhy only give a report on out of the box performance. You had a colorimeter, why not calibrate it and see how good it can actually be? It's not a big job, and takes no longer than measuring it's out of the box performance.
You mention sRGB mode, which makes me assume this is a wide gamut screen, but the review doesn't actually specify this. What's it's percentage of Adobe RGB1998? How does PLS fair with IPS with black levels off axis? There's so much missing here, and so much fail in this review.
I still don't see why when your CPU, GPU and other hardware reviews are so technically detailed you insist on doing these consumer style monitor reviews. I thought this was a serious hardware and modding site?
Sorry Bit, but your monitor reviews are terrible.
Supposing you had enough money to burn and you wanted to mount six together on one of those multi monitor mounts, with your connections built into the stand you are going to have a real problem. Wall mounting might also be an issue, so I suppose you would simply look elsewhere.
I'd only give it a feature score that high if the stand was removable, it had a vesa mount and a second set of inputs. Me no likely the need for a power brick either.
My wallet can rest easy, as there's little danger of me wanting one, never mind buying one.
Because it's shiny. This is why we can't have nice things. Being all sensible! :D
The USB ports look like they're on the side of the base.
looking at it, I don't think it has Vesa mounts so you wouldn't be able to use it on a mounting bracket anyway.
I'd rather stick with my 42" Panasonic G20 for PC, PS3 and films rather than spend £800 on a 27" monitor!
On the other hand, regular HDTVs actually have some pretty bad input lag.
you can buy a very nice tv set that will do a better job if all you care for is games and films for the same £800 made by samsung none the less.
The comparison to Apple's Thunderbolt display is an interesting one - the Samsung is cheaper, but the Apple is made of solid aluminium (so no wobble) and also includes things like a gigabit ethernet port, HD webcam, FireWire... Basically, I think Samsung should have made this even cheaper, competing with the U2711's price rather than Apple.
Pookey speaketh the truth.
Doesn't go into anywhere near enough detail to let me know whether this monitor is worth buying over an Apple or Dell. It's an opinion piece, and by the sound of it, written by someone who's new to 27" monitors (Hence the comments about getting used to smaller icon sizes)
Also...
The Dell 2711 is individually calibrated and comes with a printed report (As do the pro 24")
Also, it's worth noting that monitors at this price range are typically calibrated at the factory, so this isn't really a standout feature.
Yeah, because that's worked out really well so far hasn't it, I can see why people would want to be smug. Anyway, 'the rest of' is a slight exaggeration - unless countries like Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Czech Republic, Poland and more aren't real countries...
This screen doesn't seem that great at all.
Why would they do that?
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